Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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ILovecycling said:
Hi all,bit of uninformed last few days,but I see this thread is enough to inform me. :) I looking forward to see our champion on the road later today,and hope he won't lose too much time to his rivals + race pain free.

he is Alberto the great. He'll hide his pain.. but .. can't lie about the form:D I got no expectation for now. Que sera, sera..
 
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Alberto being Alberto, even if he says he has come to ride in the entire Vuelta, nobody is going to believe him.
Everyone wants him to win.
If he doesn't win, there are many who will end up saying that he should retire.

But mark my words: Form is transient, class is permanent; and El Pistelero has both Form and class.
 
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Jelantik said:
he is Alberto the great. He'll hide his pain.. but .. can't lie about the form:D I got no expectation for now. Que sera, sera..
my only expectation is to hear: 'Ataque,ataque,ataque de Contador' 'que ataque de madrileno' etc:)
These are the greatest words in cycling:)
 
Carols said:
Why do his statements need to be labeled contradictory? When he was riding with the GCN guy it hurt. Today in his training ride it didn't hurt. Why can't both be true?

It could but for it to not be contradictory he would have said it at both occasions to settle all doubts. But you've right of course.

I've noticed during the presentation and interviews the birth of Alberto the showman. Meaning that his relaxed attitude is a clear sign of him not feeling the pressure to perform overall. I cant remember when we had him in this kind of relaxed attitude before.

It would'nt indicate that he'd been pressured to ride but that he is genuinenly glad to be back in the peloton. Indurain was forced to ride in 1996 and that led to a complete breakbrown with Banesto.

Carols said:
I just hope he doesn't damage it further and hamper himself long term. What is obvious is that the man really wants to ride his bike. Sitting at home watching bike races was dreadful for him.

That is another argument to why he hasnt been forced. I doubt Tinkoff would have letted him (if there is something stopping this man) knowing it would have been damaging for his career. I read in this thread that it was another contradicted statement and that he was greenlighted from his doctor.
 
ILovecycling said:
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Ohh wait,then there has to be some kind of mistake :eek: I see 7.:rolleyes:

Just because this isn't the clinic does not mean you can deny the fact that he was convicted and sanctioned and was also disqualified from the 2010 Tour and the 2011 Giro.

Heck, the only reason he did the Giro was because of his positive. He wanted to race as much as possible before his ban.
 
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Walkman said:
Just because this isn't the clinic does not mean you can deny the fact that he was convicted and sanctioned and was also disqualified from the 2010 Tour and the 2011 Giro.

Heck, the only reason he did the Giro was because of his positive. He wanted to race as much as possible before his ban.
So what? There wasnt anything clinic wise in that Giro.He won it.Period.
And yeah,this is not clinic,but I think you know that amount of this infamous shiit found in his urine didnt influenced his performance.
He won those 2 races on the road fair and square,with same conditions as his oponnents.
Nobody remember Scarponi and Schleck as winners.

Just my last comment about this.I dont want this in his thread.If you want to discuss this further,pm me.
 

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ILovecycling said:
Ohh wait,then there has to be some kind of mistake :eek: I see 7.:rolleyes:

As you well know Contador is no longer the official winner of the 2010 Tour, Andy Schleck won the 2010 tour, and the 2011 Giro, Michele Scarponi won the 2011 Giro. To say Contador has won 7 GTs is nothing, but an outright lie. I do not like it when people lie to me.
 
Luigi_Max said:
As you well know Contador is no longer the official winner of the 2010 Tour, Andy Schleck won the 2010 tour, and the 2011 Giro, Michele Scarponi won the 2011 Giro. To say Contador has won 7 GTs is nothing, but an outright lie. I do not like being lied too.

Haha LOL :D

It's not a lie. I know what I saw, and I saw Contador WIN those races
 

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LaFlorecita said:
Haha LOL :D

It's not a lie. I know what I saw, and I saw Contador WIN those races

Contador cheated so can no longer be called the winner of those races. The facts are Contador is not the winner of the 2010 Tour or the 2011 Giro. I know you know what happened so for you to claim otherwise is a lie. Please stop it.
 
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Once again there's an argument to be made for tour 2010.

But he never cheated during the giro '11 unless you've proof of course.

Btw it was never proven Contador cheated in tour '10, i don't like it that people lie.

Hypocrite.
 
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Luigi_Max said:
Contador cheated so can no longer be called the winner of those races. The facts are Contador is not the winner of the 2010 Tour or the 2011 Giro. I know you know what happened so for you to claim otherwise is a lie. Please stop it.
No,you lie.
 

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Miburo said:
Once again there's an argument to be made for tour 2010.

But he never cheated during the giro '11 unless you've proof of course.

Btw it was never proven Contador cheated in tour '10, i don't like it that people lie.

Hypocrite.

When I look at a list of winners for the tour, 2010 says Andy Schleck.
When I look at a list of winners for the giro, 2011 says Michele Scarponi.

They are the official winners of the races, to claim otherwise while knowing these facts is lying. How that came to pass is irrelevant, Alberto Contador did not win the 2010 Tour or the 2011 Giro.

He was declared to have cheated during the 2010 tour, that is the facts, I did not lie.
 
Luigi_Max said:
When I look at a list of winners for the tour, 2010 says Andy Schleck.
When I look at a list of winners for the giro, 2011 says Michele Scarponi.

They are the official winners of the races, to claim otherwise while knowing these facts is lying. How that came to pass is irrelevant, Alberto Contador did not win the 2010 Tour or the 2011 Giro.

He was declared to have cheated during the 2010 tour, that is the facts, I did not lie.

No it is a lie

Alberto finished the 2010 Tour in first place. So he won the 2010 Tour.
Alberto finished the 2011 Giro in first place. So he won the 2011 Giro.

Same goes for Volta a Catalunya & Vuelta a Murcia
 
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Luigi_Max said:
When I look at a list of winners for the tour, 2010 says Andy Schleck.
When I look at a list of winners for the giro, 2011 says Michele Scarponi.

They are the official winners of the races, to claim otherwise while knowing these facts is lying. How that came to pass is irrelevant, Alberto Contador did not win the 2010 Tour or the 2011 Giro.

He was declared to have cheated during the 2010 tour, that is the facts, I did not lie.

He never cheated during the tour 2010. This feat was never proven.

Go read the judgement. Taking doping means you took a forbidding substance by will. It was never proven that Contador took doping.

But unlike a normal court in cycling the principle 'innocent until proven guilty' doesn't count.

Many professors said that if Contador went to ECHR he would have won the case. It's against the fundamental principals of human rights.

This might be too hard for you to understand and why Contador didn't do it? ECHR cases take up many years, that's my guess.

Fleur, you're not helping by acting like a child. It's not nessecary.
 

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Miburo said:
He never cheated during the tour 2010. This feat was never proven.

Go read the judgement. Taking doping means you took a forbidding substance by will. It was never proven that Contador took doping.

But unlike a normal court in cycling the principle 'innocent until proven guilty' doesn't count.

Many professors said that if Contador went to ECHR he would have won the case. It's against the fundamental principals of human rights.

This might be too hard for you to understand and why Contador didn't do it? ECHR cases take up many years, that's my guess.

Fleur, you're not helping by acting like a child. It's not nessecary.

Don't worry I have already put her on ignore.