Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[LaFlorecita]

I dont think that explains everything. Froome's attack's are more explosive than Contador's and harder to follow. Contador uses surprise tactics too, attacking from the back of a small group or a few riders back he goes. Froome attacks from the front, everyone knows he is going and he just rides u off his wheel easier than anyone else in pro cycling. With Contador's form being as good as it was 2014, Froome was a little stronger at the Dauphine, imo before he crashed. Contador was almost dropped in Stage 2, a bike or bike and half length was opening. Although Contador is my favourite rider, an in form 2013 Tour Froome would give any past Tour winner in the last 20 years , a large amount of trouble.

You keep repeating this. I don't believe you.

 

[TANK91]

nahh

Contador 2009,Armstrong 200?, Pantani 1998,Indurain 199? would beat him with ease

Lol good one. You sure you did not mistake 2013 with 2014?, check his number's in 2013. On Ventoux and AX-3 these times rival LA times and you think it is a certianty he "could not". Pantani way overrated he won the TDF not because he was the strongest. Ulllrich was better overrall that TDF. Do not even start with Indurain he would lose mins uphill.

Froome was the strongest 2013 TDF by a long way he had bad days but his good days were on another level. He is the only rider who has beat Contador is a GT fair and square that is a fact. 2011 TDF he did the Giro. And to me Contador was as strong as ever at times this year he had a monster year, who had him in the most trouble this year? It was not you're boy Quintana put it that way. If we are going to say Nibali was getting dropped which to me he was, then so was Contador even La Flo would probably admit that. Stage 2 Froome was driving the whole climb and still won the stage beat him the day before by like 10 seconds i think in a prologue. And you're hear saying he has no chance vs him. Laughable you underrate Froome big time.

Only in his mind does he need the ITT if he does the TDF next year he will destroy everyone if he is in a good shape. Same with Contador they are the real elite not Quintana who you like to bring up in endless posts. Froome does not even need an ITT on form he is 1/2 in the world uphill we have seen it for three years.

 

[Netserk]

You seems to think it's impossible to train yourself into good form…?

So why don't riders just arrive fresh for the Tour and skip Dauphiné?

 

[TANK91]

Ofc Froome was in better form in Dauphiné. Froome had ridden Romandie, Contador's last race was a month before that.

Yeah like Cataluna same thing, who missed Tirreno?

 

[Netserk]

Yeah like Cataluna same thing, who missed Tirreno?

Froome did. Have I claimed anything else? What's the point you're after?

 

[TANK91]

Netserk, Contador did Tirreno then Catalunya. Froome did just Catalunya, who was strongest? Contador.

Froome did Romandie then they both did Duaphinee who was strongest? Froome. So what are you trying to prove?


Froome was beating Contador he beat him in stage 1 with ease same with stage 2. Not even wheelsucking could make him pass Froome. Then the crash happens and the rest is history. But one man troubled Contador and it was Froome, Contador was not even close to doing that to Froome in 2013. Froome just had a wierd year this year he crashed alot aswell. Froome was awful in the Vuelta and still got 2nd you can tell it is not the same Froome when he has to ride tempo,his attacks were terrible if you compare it to the Dauphinee.

 

[TANK91]

Froome did. Have I claimed anything else? What's the point you're after?

You are basically using an excuse for him to do Romandie, ok then Contador did not beat Froome in Catalunya?

 

[TANK91]

Also Contador is 32 he does not have long at the top you would think.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Also Contador is 32 he does not have long at the top you would think.

1. He is not 32, he'll be 32 in December
2. Wtf has that got to do with this discussion?

 

[TANK91]

1. He is not 32, he'll be 32 in December
2. Wtf has that got to do with this discussion?

32 in Dec same thing he will be racing at 32 next year dummy. Just annoys me how people discredit him, take it from Contador's mouth "Froome is strongest rival ever". You think they do not have his times when Contador knicked Froome's trainers?. You know if Froome did not crash in the Dauphinee and TDF Contador would not win. I they if were both healthy Froome would have won. 2 stage 2 wins then he crashes. Yet people somehow bring up just Contador concerning Nibali's win. Then you have people saying Contador would beat him with ease in 09 laughable it really is.

 

[Netserk]

You are basically using an excuse for him to do Romandie, ok then Contador did not beat Froome in Catalunya?

What are you talking about? Contador beat Froome in both races.

Contador was in better form in Catalunya than Froome. Froome was in better form than Contador in Dauphiné (at least the first couple of days when Contador had to get race rhythm again).

 

[Netserk]

Netserk, Contador did Tirreno then Catalunya. Froome did just Catalunya, who was strongest? Contador.

Froome did Romandie then they both did Duaphinee who was strongest? Froome. So what are you trying to prove?


Froome was beating Contador he beat him in stage 1 with ease same with stage 2. Not even wheelsucking could make him pass Froome. Then the crash happens and the rest is history. But one man troubled Contador and it was Froome, Contador was not even close to doing that to Froome in 2013. Froome just had a wierd year this year he crashed alot aswell. Froome was awful in the Vuelta and still got 2nd you can tell it is not the same Froome when he has to ride tempo,his attacks were terrible if you compare it to the Dauphinee.

My point? Quite simple to read what it was:

Ofc Froome was in better form in Dauphiné. Froome had ridden Romandie, Contador's last race was a month before that.

Did you read the post I responded to?

 

[LaFlorecita]

32 in Dec same thing he will be racing at 32 next year dummy. Just annoys me how people discredit him, take it from Contador's mouth "Froome is strongest rival ever". You think they do not have his times when Contador knicked Froome's trainers?. You know if Froome did not crash in the Dauphinee and TDF Contador would not win. I they if were both healthy Froome would have won. 2 stage 2 wins then he crashes. Yet people somehow bring up just Contador concerning Nibali's win. Then you have people saying Contador would beat him with ease in 09 laughable it really is.

Contador is simply a better racer than Froome, deal with it, dummy.

 

[Red Rick]

Also Contador is 32 he does not have long at the top you would think.

There's absolutely no indication that he's past it. Such a shame he crashed out in the tour. He stated that he was in his best shape ever in the Tour this year.

 

[TANK91]

There's absolutely no indication that he's past it. Such a shame he crashed out in the tour. He stated that he was in his best shape ever in the Tour this year.

Wow i did not say he is past it he as more GT's in him imo i said he will not have long though.

 

[TANK91]

Ok Netserk i agree Contador was just better in Catalunya as he did Tirreno which gives him better rythm. Same with Froome in Dauphinee before the crash atleast that is sorted.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Wow i did not say he is past it he as more GT's in him imo i said he will not have long though.

Alberto has more years (and GTs) left than Froome imo

 

[Donkey]

Also Contador is 32 he does not have long at the top you would think.

32 in Dec same thing he will be racing at 32 next year dummy.

You are dummy

 

[TANK91]

Contador is simply a better racer than Froome, deal with it, dummy.

Yep he is so much better than he got spanked all year round in 2013. Contador is gods gift to us. Fact is before the Vuelta when the one race shape was good for both Froome made Contador look like Cadel Evans lol. When did Contador drop Froome mano o mano? Vuelta that is it. Froome was far better in 2013 deal with it. This is not 2009 now, tick tock tick tock


You are just biast admit it, it is not even a discussion who as been more impressive last few years. It as been Froome. Froome 2013>Contador 2014 go on be biast and say it aint correct?. Atleast i can give the great one credit all year on this forum i have said best rider is Contador, proof is when Nibali was leading the TDF, was i not bringing Contador up? I was always saying it was his TDF over Nibali he dropped him on a 1.8km climb lol.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yep he is so much better than he got spanked all year round in 2013.

2013, his worst year since 2004

Contador is gods gift to us.

No one said that

No one Fact is before the Vuelta when the one race shape was good for both Froome made Contador look like Cadel Evans lol.

That was actually a good moment for Contador, it was the first time he did not get dropped by Froome in super shape. He is always relatively bad in the Dauphiné, in 2010 he got beaten by freaking Jani Brajkovic.

When did Contador drop Froome mano o mano? Vuelta that is it. Froome was far better in 2013 deal with it. This is not 2009 now, tick tock tick tock

Yes and Contador was far better in 2014

You are just biast admit it, it is not even a discussion who as been more impressive last few years. It as been Froome.

Call me biased, but I do not agree at all. In 2012 they were equally impressive, in 2013 Froome was more impressive, in 2014 Contador. Let's not even discuss 2011 and the years before that.

Froome 2013>Contador 2014 go on be biast and say it aint correct?.

There is no evidence to suggest you are right.

Atleast i can give the great one credit all year on this forum i have said best rider is Contador, proof is when Nibali was leading the TDF, was i not bringing Contador up? I was always saying it was his TDF over Nibali he dropped him on a 1.8km climb lol.

yes, kudos to you

 

[TANK91]

Alberto has more years (and GTs) left than Froome imo

Im done see ya. Do you have Alberto's psoters all over you're wall? Not healthy you're love for him. Even when i said he 32 straight away you are like, He is not. I know for a fact he was 32 comming up so he will be 32 next year, Froome is how old? You honestly telling me Contador is more likely to have more years left lol?

No one is right as of now but you are a fool if you think, it is you're opinon but come on i can not see Contador being Chris Horner. Evans looked great in 2011, he was done by 2012. Contador could be done next year no one know's, by done im on about GT winning done.

I will leave this debate now anyway so up to you if you respond i wont answer check my avatar and see how much respect i have for Contador why would i have that avatar, it is because the 2 strongest GT riders are on the podium and it is a cool pic as both are showing respect. You do not respect any rival of Contador's Flo so just shows how biast you are. You would be better on a football terrace you are in wrong sport this is not football where you hate the other team this is cycling

 

[TANK91]

We will just agree to disgree as a poster i find you're posts great but with Contador you just always clash with me. I did not mean he would be done at 32 just saying it is more likely as he as been better far longer than Froome and is older.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I respect Froome. I think you are disrespecting Contador's abilities as a cyclist when you say that if both are in top shape, Contador has no chance to beat Froome.

I will leave this debate now anyway so up to you if you respond i wont answer check my avatar and see how much respect i have for Contador

 

[Netserk]

I respect Froome. I think you are disrespecting Contador's abilities as a cyclist when you say that if both are in top shape, Contador has no chance to beat Froome.

That's more because he massively overrates Froome. He thinks 2013 Froome was better than Indurain

 

[LaFlorecita]

That's more because he massively overrates Froome. He thinks 2013 Froome was better than Indurain

Ah, okay. That clears things up a bit.