Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Jakub]

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He will ride San Sebastián and Burgos before the Vuelta.

Why SS? Omg...

 

[Old&slow]

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Lol.. I see Old&slow's posts have already been deleted but I just wanted to say that I thought it was hilarious he basically 100% copy-pasted his own post from 2015 viewtopic.php?p=1783418#p1783418

They can delete and hide the truth and only allow delusional Contador fanboy posts. But the bottom line is Contador is a third tier rider. He has never been a Tour de France contending rider and never will be. As I said in my other posts his two TDF wins were against Leiphiemer Schleck and others who could never dream of a top 10 in a tour like this years or last years.

The fanboys and the media may want you to think Contador has a chance but he has no chance unless 10 riders better than him drop out. He is what he is and that is the equivalent of Bauke Mollema and that is where he will end up again this year fighting with Mollema, Barguil, Mientes and others for a top 5-10 placement. Maybe next year he can just focus on the Giro and/or Vuelta where he can ride against riders who are not as strong or in peak form and fool people into thinking he is a great rider. All he is and has ever been is hype. Wake up in 4 weeks and we will see the same thing we always see, Contador finishing close to 10 minutes down and this forum flooded with posts about how he should have won and of course will win again next year when this fantastic series of events magically transforms him into their version of Cinderella.

I am posting this here simply to give you the chance to tell me I told you so after the race. I could do the same thing I do every year and simply post this after Contador's glass falls off and he ends ups being who he is and that's a better than average rider but not a top tier rider that can contend for the TDF. My advice is start preparing the excuses now as you will need them in a few weeks.

Want to do an avatar bet? I say AC finishes top 3 within 10 minutes of the winner. It seems you're saying at best he'll be 5th outside 10 minutes of the winner. Sound good? Please take me up on this avatar bet!

Also you say he's a third tier rider. Let's assume Froome and Quintana are the top tier. Can you name me all the 2nd tier riders who are better than him?

I would be happy to make you an avatar bet that Contador does not finish in the top 3. He stands little to no chance.

In regards to 2nd tier riders there are Porte, Landa, Bardet, Valverde and if in form Nibali. Pinot, Van Garden, Aru, and Gesink would be stronger if in better form. Usually, there are a number of domestiques much stronger than Contador like in 2013 when Kreuziger and Porte were quite evidently stronger and Geraint Thomas in 2015. Then there are all the third tier riders about the same strength as Contador such as Martin, Barguil, Meintes, Fugslang, Van Den Broeck, Mollema, Mientes, Majka, Dupont who like Contador can contend for a top 10 spot if they raced and prepared.

Alright I'm going to copy this group of post over to the avatar betting thread so we don't spam this thread.

You're 2nd paragraph is amazing. Thanks for the laugh.

I won't hold to your bet as Contador dropped out to avoid being embarrassed. But again, for the 7th year in a row Contador was irrelevant and nothing more than media and fanboy hype. As I said above, for the last 6 years until this year he has been Bauke Mollema. But one would have to admit with the addition of this years tour Buake has been a much better, more accomplished TDF rider and much more relevant over the last 7 years than Contador. Hopefully Trek will see the light and make Contador a domestique next year. Enjoy the Vuelta.

 

[RattaKuningas]

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He will ride San Sebastián and Burgos before the Vuelta.

Why SS? Omg...

I'd say why not. It's a one day race after all and maybe he can get a good result.

 

[Electress]

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Enjoy the Vuelta.

Thanks. I will.

 

[Jakub]

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He will ride San Sebastián and Burgos before the Vuelta.

Why SS? Omg...

I'd say why not. It's a one day race after all and maybe he can get a good result.

IMHO he should rather have a rest. Moreover he has raced more than enough in spring.

 

[Ataraxus]

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He will ride San Sebastián and Burgos before the Vuelta.

Why SS? Omg...

I'd say why not. It's a one day race after all and maybe he can get a good result.

I would say it is more for Oleg and the team than for the good result.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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He will ride San Sebastián and Burgos before the Vuelta.

Why SS? Omg...

I'd say why not. It's a one day race after all and maybe he can get a good result.

I would say it is more for Oleg and the team than for the good result.

Maybe, but its 2-3 days before Burgos and its very close geographically, so it makes pretty good sense.

 

[Red Rick]

I'd say San Sebastian is pretty good. Great for getting a little speed in the legs, and there's nothing to lose. If he feels good he can make one or two futile attacks just for the sake not getting away. I think the field will be pretty strong.

 

[Jakub]

Ok, then he could have also made Olympics, nicht wahr?

 

[Miburo]

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Ok, then he could have also made Olympics, nicht wahr?

Timezone difference, besides he prob won't be in any great shape for SS.

Look at '08, he was terrible in the race, yet he won the vuelta.

 

[Taxus4a]

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He will ride San Sebastián and Burgos before the Vuelta.

Why SS? Omg...

Maybe becouse is one of the most important races of his country and it suits him very well??

It talks very bad for him all the years he didnt race it...

 

[Red Rick]

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Ok, then he could have also made Olympics, nicht wahr?

Timezone difference, besides he prob won't be in any great shape for SS.

Look at '08, he was terrible in the race, yet he won the vuelta.

Obviously, Spanish Coach won't take Contador for Vuelta prep lol.

 

[Miburo]

I mean Contador did in '08 too with the olympics, he was dicking around in the road race, didn't look good at all.

And was then 4th in the ITT, having the best time on the first intermediate. That first part was a beast ride.

That was 8 years ago and he's still highly relevant. Who can say that? Only a select few.

 

[Jakub]

You are probably right with Olympics vs SS.
I still believe Burgos is enough preparation.

 

[Jspear]

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I won't hold to your bet as Contador dropped out to avoid being embarrassed. But again, for the 7th year in a row Contador was irrelevant and nothing more than media and fanboy hype. As I said above, for the last 6 years until this year he has been Bauke Mollema. But one would have to admit with the addition of this years tour Buake has been a much better, more accomplished TDF rider and much more relevant over the last 7 years than Contador. Hopefully Trek will see the light and make Contador a domestique next year. Enjoy the Vuelta.

You are an embarrassment to this forum.

 

[Jspear]

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I mean Contador did in '08 too with the olympics, he was dicking around in the road race, didn't look good at all.

And was then 4th in the ITT, having the best time on the first intermediate. That first part was a beast ride.

That was 8 years ago and he's still highly relevant. Who can say that? Only a select few.

Froome was a known talent back then.

 

[mr. tibbs]

Another noodle through the mountains in France today...

Hurry up, Vuelta. The peloton needs Contador.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Another noodle through the mountains in France today...

Hurry up, Vuelta. The peloton needs Contador.

The peloton needs the Vuelta, more so than the the peloton needs Contador. He hasn't exactly lighted the race up recently, but he gets the benefit of the doubt altho the weather surely didn't play in his favour.

 

[ggusta]

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Lol.. I see Old&slow's posts have already been deleted but I just wanted to say that I thought it was hilarious he basically 100% copy-pasted his own post from 2015 viewtopic.php?p=1783418#p1783418

They can delete and hide the truth and only allow delusional Contador fanboy posts. But the bottom line is Contador is a third tier rider. He has never been a Tour de France contending rider and never will be. As I said in my other posts his two TDF wins were against Leiphiemer Schleck and others who could never dream of a top 10 in a tour like this years or last years.

The fanboys and the media may want you to think Contador has a chance but he has no chance unless 10 riders better than him drop out. He is what he is and that is the equivalent of Bauke Mollema and that is where he will end up again this year fighting with Mollema, Barguil, Mientes and others for a top 5-10 placement. Maybe next year he can just focus on the Giro and/or Vuelta where he can ride against riders who are not as strong or in peak form and fool people into thinking he is a great rider. All he is and has ever been is hype. Wake up in 4 weeks and we will see the same thing we always see, Contador finishing close to 10 minutes down and this forum flooded with posts about how he should have won and of course will win again next year when this fantastic series of events magically transforms him into their version of Cinderella.

I am posting this here simply to give you the chance to tell me I told you so after the race. I could do the same thing I do every year and simply post this after Contador's glass falls off and he ends ups being who he is and that's a better than average rider but not a top tier rider that can contend for the TDF. My advice is start preparing the excuses now as you will need them in a few weeks.

I'll have what he's having.

 

[TheYouyou7]

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Another noodle through the mountains in France today...

Hurry up, Vuelta. The peloton needs Contador.

The peloton needs the Vuelta, more so than the the peloton needs Contador. He hasn't exactly lighted the race up recently, but he gets the benefit of the doubt altho the weather surely didn't play in his favour.

Coming from a Movistar fan, I'm tempted to smile.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Another noodle through the mountains in France today...

Hurry up, Vuelta. The peloton needs Contador.

The peloton needs the Vuelta, more so than the the peloton needs Contador. He hasn't exactly lighted the race up recently, but he gets the benefit of the doubt altho the weather surely didn't play in his favour.

Coming from a Movistar fan, I'm tempted to smile.

I see no reason for you not to smile then

 

[Carols]

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I mean Contador did in '08 too with the olympics, he was dicking around in the road race, didn't look good at all.

And was then 4th in the ITT, having the best time on the first intermediate. That first part was a beast ride.

That was 8 years ago and he's still highly relevant. Who can say that? Only a select few.

Froome was a known talent back then.

To Who?????? He may have been riding as a pro but hadn't even been tossed from the Giro yet, his most memorable deed before the 'transformation'.

Back to Alberto. I'm glad he isn't going to Rio. No way he could ride it to win. No worries about getting Zika and missing the Vuelta.

 

[bigcog]

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I mean Contador did in '08 too with the olympics, he was dicking around in the road race, didn't look good at all.

And was then 4th in the ITT, having the best time on the first intermediate. That first part was a beast ride.

That was 8 years ago and he's still highly relevant. Who can say that? Only a select few.

Froome was a known talent back then.

To Who?????? He may have been riding as a pro but hadn't even been tossed from the Giro yet, his most memorable deed before the 'transformation'.

Back to Alberto. I'm glad he isn't going to Rio. No way he could ride it to win. No worries about getting Zika and missing the Vuelta.

Lol the hypocrisy :lol:

 

[Netserk]

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I mean Contador did in '08 too with the olympics, he was dicking around in the road race, didn't look good at all.

And was then 4th in the ITT, having the best time on the first intermediate. That first part was a beast ride.

That was 8 years ago and he's still highly relevant. Who can say that? Only a select few.

Froome was a known talent back then.

To Who?????? He may have been riding as a pro but hadn't even been tossed from the Giro yet, his most memorable deed before the 'transformation'.

Back to Alberto. I'm glad he isn't going to Rio. No way he could ride it to win. No worries about getting Zika and missing the Vuelta.

Why should/would he care about Zika?

 

[Carols]

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I mean Contador did in '08 too with the olympics, he was dicking around in the road race, didn't look good at all.

And was then 4th in the ITT, having the best time on the first intermediate. That first part was a beast ride.

That was 8 years ago and he's still highly relevant. Who can say that? Only a select few.

Froome was a known talent back then.

To Who?????? He may have been riding as a pro but hadn't even been tossed from the Giro yet, his most memorable deed before the 'transformation'.

Back to Alberto. I'm glad he isn't going to Rio. No way he could ride it to win. No worries about getting Zika and missing the Vuelta.

Why should/would he care about Zika?

He doesn't need another setback, read ill with Zika, before the Vuelta!