Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[wheresmybrakes]

Cool photo

So much pain and varying levels of torture in one photograph.
You find it cool?

I love this video of him climbing the Angliru in 2008. In his day he was spectacular, panache, style. If he didn't attack he'd just ride away from them. No grimacing back then, check out the cadence, no one could touch him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r43JIBQo56s&t=379s&index=2&list=PLKeuNuY1FOUlQT95KY7UWJX8m80hK4Y79

In 1980's, my dad used to race me through all the gardens and fields back home, he could whip my ass! Nowadays, he has no chance because he's too old and his knees are knackered! It's great reminiscing how good he was and just wished that one day he could give me one last race to see if he still has it, just to show me what he was able to do back in the day, but I know he can't and he knows he can't. Such a shame.

 

[amih77]

Pantano has dropped out from TdS...

 

[infeXio]

Pantano has dropped out from TdS...

With a stomach bug - probably not too serious.

 

[portugal11]

What he usually does in livigno? His weight seems pretty good but he has lost a lot of power/spark in his legs (maybe aging). He was pretty underwhelming in dauphine after his most important training camp at alttitude. I know alberto is a lot better compared to what he did in dauphine. So any explanation for this?

 

[Valv.Piti]

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What he usually does in livigno? His weight seems pretty good but he has lost a lot of power/spark in his legs (maybe aging). He was pretty underwhelming in dauphine after his most important training camp at alttitude. I know alberto is a lot better compared to what he did in dauphine. So any explanation for this?

I thought Alberto made sure everyone and their moms know about why he was performing like he was...

 

[Jspear]

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What he usually does in livigno? His weight seems pretty good but he has lost a lot of power/spark in his legs (maybe aging). He was pretty underwhelming in dauphine after his most important training camp at alttitude. I know alberto is a lot better compared to what he did in dauphine. So any explanation for this?

I thought Alberto made sure everyone and their moms know about why he was performing like he was...

My mom knew so I think you might be correct.

 

[dacooley]

what's supposed to mean 'not going into red too much'? do we seriously believe contador has capacity to lose to porte and froome 40-50 seconds on chat not going too deep? I'm saying about current contador, not 2009/2014 contador. it's highly doubtful.

 

[LaFlorecita]

He will train on explosiveness in Livigno, probably.

 

[Leinster]

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what's supposed to mean 'not going into red too much'? do we seriously believe contador has capacity to lose to porte and froome 40-50 seconds on chat not going too deep? I'm saying about current contador, not 2009/2014 contador. it's highly doubtful.

That's the thing; we don't know what percent of his maximum he went to in finishing 11th at the Dauphine. If that was 99%, then he won't make the podium in the Tour. If that was 75%, he's going to be very hard to beat in July.

 

[silvergrenade]

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what's supposed to mean 'not going into red too much'? do we seriously believe contador has capacity to lose to porte and froome 40-50 seconds on chat not going too deep? I'm saying about current contador, not 2009/2014 contador. it's highly doubtful.

That's the thing; we don't know what percent of his maximum he went to in finishing 11th at the Dauphine. If that was 99%, then he won't make the podium in the Tour. If that was 75%, he's going to be very hard to beat in July.

Do you even know the differences between climbers? It's extremely minute. 99% peak Froome would be equivalent to 100% contador from what we've seen over the years.
If that was a 75% contador and just lost 1 minute on Chat, hell, he'll be dropping froome and porte and winning every mtf by 10 minutes.
:surprised: :lol:

 

[Publicus]

Looks like he's back on Tenerife and working on his climbing speed. See his instagram account.

 

[infeXio]

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Looks like he's back on Tenerife and working on his climbing speed. See his instagram account.

High cadence in the most recent video!

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Looks like he's back on Tenerife and working on his climbing speed. See his instagram account.

Climbing in the saddle, high cadence..yep, definitely training differently than earlier in the season

 

[portugal11]

Wow high cadence!!! But he isn't out of the saddle!!! Is he doing a vroom vroom?

 

[Publicus]

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Wow high cadence!!! But he isn't out of the saddle!!! Is he doing a vroom vroom?

That's sort of what I thought when I was watching . . . looked very Froome like--which reminds me of the 2014 Vuelta.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Are we sure it isn't Froome in disguise?

 

[Publicus]

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Are we sure it isn't Froome in disguise?

Elbows weren't flared

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Are we sure it isn't Froome in disguise?

Elbows weren't flared

Hmm...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Oh, just realized the video is sped up, so his actual cadence is lower

 

[Jspear]

I was about to watch the video after this little bit of hype. :/

 

[sir fly]

Looks to me like he's trying out the most efficient style for specific efforts.
Should come useful in various situations... He doesn't need to dance all the time.

I think he still can keep up with anybody, but the question is can he do it every time he needs to?

 

[Publicus]

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Oh, just realized the video is sped up, so his actual cadence is lower

I don't know how you're drawing that conclusion. I watched it a couple of times after you posted it and nothing seems abnormal. Perhaps it's the fanboy blinders I have on.

 

[Jspear]

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Oh, just realized the video is sped up, so his actual cadence is lower

I don't know how you're drawing that conclusion. I watched it a couple of times after you posted it and nothing seems abnormal. Perhaps it's the fanboy blinders I have on.

I just watched it. The audio doesn't seemed sped up and the car going by doesn't look sped up.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Oh, just realized the video is sped up, so his actual cadence is lower

I don't know how you're drawing that conclusion. I watched it a couple of times after you posted it and nothing seems abnormal. Perhaps it's the fanboy blinders I have on.

The movement of the camera seems to suggest that to me. Or the camera person has Parkinson's
And he has posted sped up videos before

 

[rick james]

the car passing on the other side of the road looks like its at normal speed