Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Red Rick]

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Jesus Christ, are folk really debating the name of his baby?

What the hell are we supposed to do during the first 230km of LBL

 

[Koronin]

Re: Re:

Jesus Christ, are folk really debating the name of his baby?

What the hell are we supposed to do during the first 230km of LBL

This was a couple of days ago.

 

[hrotha]

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That is interesting
So what about Luca
Has to be a low average age if it's a kinda recent thing to go for the "fancy" names

Turns out there's 5398 males in Spain called "Luca" (compared to 37491 for "Lucas"), with an average age of 13.6 years

 

[Koronin]

Re: Re:

That is interesting
So what about Luca
Has to be a low average age if it's a kinda recent thing to go for the "fancy" names

Turns out there's 5398 males in Spain called "Luca" (compared to 37491 for "Lucas"), with an average age of 13.6 years

Maybe not a popular name, but not a fully uncommon name.

 

[rick james]

Oh my god, no one cares

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Oh my god, no one cares

Well, obviously some of us care and think this discussion and data on name popularity is interesting. You don't have to read or participate.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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That is interesting
So what about Luca
Has to be a low average age if it's a kinda recent thing to go for the "fancy" names

Turns out there's 5398 males in Spain called "Luca" (compared to 37491 for "Lucas"), with an average age of 13.6 years

Next questions that come to mind, what is the most common name in Spain, and what is the most "old-fashioned" one
& where are you finding this data

 

[Zama_Olyas]

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That is interesting
So what about Luca
Has to be a low average age if it's a kinda recent thing to go for the "fancy" names

Turns out there's 5398 males in Spain called "Luca" (compared to 37491 for "Lucas"), with an average age of 13.6 years

Next questions that come to mind, what is the most common name in Spain, and what is the most "old-fashioned" one
& where are you finding this data

I want to answer coz i have nothing to do and can't troll this thread as Velasco has retired.

Between dictatorship and democracy, there was a regional and national joy that increased the frequency of names that have been characterized as "children of democracy", among the most popular of which are Irati , Naira , Iria or Laia for girls and Beneharo , Iago , Iker or Didac for boys.
With the passing of the years, the use of these name in Spain has become normal. Our grandparents are called Francisco, Antonio , José or Manuel , and María , A The most common names throughout Spain in 2012 according to the National Institute of Statistics are Lucía , María , Paula , Daniela, and Sara , for girls and Daniel , Hugo , Alejandro , Pablo and Álvaro for boys.

https://www.donquijote.org/spanish-language/names/

or try here http://www.ine.es/en/welcome.shtml

 

[hrotha]

Well, let's see!
The most common male names are "Antonio" (702,882), "José" (625,280), "Manuel" (609,506), "Francisco" (519,796) and "David" (361,991). Compound names are counted separately, with "José Antonio" coming in on 7th with 314,363. "Alberto" is no. 27 with 180,009. For female names, "María del Carmen" is surprisingly the most popular (664,804), followed by plain old "María" (624,184), "Carmen" (407,389), "Josefa" (290,950) and "Ana María" (275,622). Except for "David", the average age of all these names is fairly high - these are very traditional names and plenty of young people would bear them, but newer generations tend to like variety a lot more.

As for "old-fashioned", that's harder to say. Looking at the most popular names for people born before 1930, most of them are still common and sound fine. The real gems are obscure religious and saint names, none of which was ever particularly popular on its own, but which, taken together, made up a significant portion of the total. Like "Anacleto" (510 people/average age 67,2), "Remigia" (309/71,5), "Fortunato" (1231/69,2) or "Tiburcia" (161/77,5). Unfortunately for me, many totally awesome Germanic names are in this category and I consider them unsusable xD.

I'm getting all this info from Spain's Instituto Nacional de Estadística. Here's a widget to play with, and here's the additional data.

Oh, and apparently, of those 5398 guys called "Luca", 1438 are actually Italian.

edit: Partially ninja'd *shakes fist*

 

[Zama_Olyas]

What's the percentages for your real name?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Cool, lots of info and who could've guessed Zam is a language nerd
I was reading about some of the recently popular foreign baby names and saw Dylan, I looked at it in that widget and there are apparently 4095 Spaniards named Dylan with an average age of 4.9 years that has got to be one of the lowest averages.
I also looked at the last names and there are apparently ~800 people with Contador as their first or second last name and the name is most common in Badajoz in the Extremadura. There are 93.000 Velascos, 49.000 Valverdes and 30.000 Belmontes. The Valverdes are concentrated in the south of Spain and the Belmontes on the south-eastern coast. There are only 900 Castroviejos, most of them in La Rioja, Burgos and the Basque Country. To compare, there are almost 3mln Garcias and over 1.8mln Rodriguezes

We have a similar kind of database here for those who are interested in that kind of thing.

 

[hrotha]

Ha, there's roughly the same number of people called "Luca" in the Netherlands as in Spain

I suspect "Dylan" might have been imported by Latin American immigrants, who generally speaking tend to favour Anglo names a lot more. I don't like it any better when Groenewegen bears it, though - it feels so out of place.

Zam: around 0.4% or some 100,000 people, it would seem.

 

[Zama_Olyas]

That is very low, as i know your real name.

 

[Serpentin]

Berto is still training hard these days if you look at his instagram page. He really loves training and riding his bike. I can relate. Luca is a beautiful name, stop arguing please. The question is will he be riding for Unuzue in 20 years ?

 

[oldcrank]

If you asked Sean Kelly, he might point out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5TFTbT5eEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dGcmTzFbY8

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Berto is still training hard these days if you look at his instagram page. He really loves training and riding his bike. I can relate. Luca is a beautiful name, stop arguing please. The question is will he be riding for Unuzue in 20 years ?

No one is arguing about the name, we're just in a discussion. I don't think anyone in this thread said they dislike the name; only hrotha noted it could be considered a bit of a 'fancy' name in Spain.
Jaysus surely Unzue will be retired at that point isn't he like 70 already

 

[Angliru]

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Oh my god, no one cares

Obviously you do since you've posted twice in response to this topic. Put in your bid to be a moderator if you're feeling powerless to control what should and shouldn't be posted.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

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Jesus Christ, are folk really debating the name of his baby?

Just you wait til the pictures start appearing. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[LaFlorecita]

155 posts till 50k in this thread

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Jesus Christ, are folk really debating the name of his baby?

Just you wait til the pictures start appearing. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I don't think he'll post many pictures, if at all. He is a very private person.

 

[Red Rick]

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Jesus Christ, are folk really debating the name of his baby?

Just you wait til the pictures start appearing. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I don't think he'll post many pictures, if at all. He is a very private person.

Yeah I think that athletes that do that are definitely in the minority, and even then it's usually pretty limited.

 

[Koronin]

Alright, since we need a few more posts to get to 50K. Why not. There are more people in Spain with the name Luca (even if the vast majority are Italian) than there are in the US with the spelling of my first name and my name is uncommon to begin with, the spelling is even more uncommon.

To those questioning us discussing the name of the baby, well why not.

 

[Red Rick]

Now I'm just wondering if I need to change the thread title

 

[RedheadDane]

To the 'Luca Contador Discussion Thread'?

Then, in a 20 years time...

 

[Koronin]

Or maybe the Alberto and Luca Contador discussion thread?