Alberto Contador suspended until August 2012 (loses all results July 2010 - Jan 2012)

[masking_agent]

and what happens to Riis now ?

and what happens to Riis ? we all know Bjarne must have known his no. 1 was charging ? I wonder if he and the team doctors will all get sanctioned as well ? Regardless, a bad day for the sport.:-(

 

[Snilla]

but AC can still ride (and win) Vuelta, so will get some points for the year

will also ride the Autumn classics to get some points ... and worlds.

Saxo might still be ok

Well as of today they just won their second TDF

Grats for that. what a total mess..

 

[Benotti69]

and what happens to Riis ? we all know Bjarne must have known his no. 1 was charging ? I wonder if he and the team doctors will all get sanctioned as well ? Regardless, a bad day for the sport.:-(

Contador was riding for Astana in 2010, so what will happen to Astana?

They have a history

 

[masking_agent]

ah that's right !

 

[Fidolix]

You really shouldn't push this point, it'll only blow up in your face.

Cantador won that Tour by attacking the yellow jersey while he had a mechanical. Cantador proved that year beyond any doubt that while he may be a great cyclist he will never be a great sportsman.

Have you ever ridding a bicycle your entire life?

 

[pmcg76]

No....but you clearly are....let's try this again real slow

He failed a test....his results are taken away....he gets banned....

There...simples...you savvy now?

Were you this vociferous in defence of Tom Zirbel? Or the many others who received and served a FULL two year ban for contaminated supplement fails?

I somehow suspect not....cos I somehow suspect that cycling plays a part in your life for three weeks in July.

Well now, you can watch it in August instead, never know...you might learn something.

Peace

But do you believe Zirbel was unfairly sanctioned, because if you dont think Zirbel was fairly sanctioned, then Contador would deserve the same benefit of doubt.

Instead you are suggesting he should get a four year sanction!! and talking about chasing him with your needle. Are you gonna chase Zirbel with a needle?

I think we know from your previous post history that you are just another Armstrong troll.

 

[Sørensen]

and what happens to Riis ? we all know Bjarne must have known his no. 1 was charging ? I wonder if he and the team doctors will all get sanctioned as well ? Regardless, a bad day for the sport.:-(

Eh. He got busted while under contract at Astana? Im sure there's a million things we can Blame Riis for, but he shouldnt be held responsible for what riders does while riding on other teams surely?

 

[Winternet_]

We live in dark days, boys. Black&White never did any good for anyone or anything.

 

[masking_agent]

Eh. He got busted while under contract at Astana? Im sure there's a million things we can Blame Riis for, but he shouldnt be held responsible for what riders does while riding on other teams surely?

yes , i forgot , thought he was with saxo since 2010

 

[guncha]

At the end everything is fair - AC won TDF 07 because Rasmussen was ejected under strange circumstances. If Rasmussen was kept in the race AC would have never won it. TDF 09 was clear victory for AC. In TDF 10 he failed dope test. Two TDF victories is fair for AC.
As for Giro 11 - due to mess created by Spanish Federation AC should have never ridden it.

 

[rhubroma]

Sums it up for me.

If Contador had gone around bullying other riders who talked about doping, claimed conspiracy theoris and witchunts along with nationalistic jingoism, used social media to mock other people, made payments to the governing body, and most importantly used his health problems as his shield for doping. I would have as little respect for Contador as I have for Armstrong and that goes for all athletes.

Yep the base hypocrisy of the two cases, when face to face and, sinisterly, at the same moment, as well for all the reasons you have succinctly listed, particularly the highlighted (though I would add the entire cancer community, which is especially disgusting) bit, makes Alberto's sanction a rather cruel application of justice by a system that has different ways of weighing the same crime.

And when you consider the appalling merchandizing of the entire judicial process we have witnessed at the other Atlantic shore, which has also been a much debated topic in the Armstrong thread, the fact that Contador was unable to avail himself with the same armor, means that he has been made the sacrifice offered to the deities before the temple of Pro Cycling (among which may well sit a certain LA in the sanctuary, a kind of sancta sanctorum of the two-wheeled sport) in place of the untouchable one.

In the end the sordid affair can only further damage a sport that has already been run through the mill, which means in this sense, once again Europe shoots itself in the foot.

I'm of the opinion that all the market determinants are what these cases really boil down and thus who is punishable and who is above being punished. Much has been discussed about the great difficulty in America of bringing down one of its heroes, though not what seems to be the fact that European Pro cycling has found that it can afford to bring another one of its champions down, but that the colossus across the ocean is a spouse from which divorce is not permitted, or daren’t even contemplated.

 

[Winternet_]

At the end everything is fair - AC won TDF 07 because Rasmussen was ejected under strange circumstances. If Rasmussen was kept in the race AC would have never won it. TDF 09 was clear victory for AC. In TDF 10 he failed dope test. Two TDF victories is fair for AC.
As for Giro 11 - due to mess created by Spanish Federation AC should have never ridden it.

It was the UCI / WADA the responsible for the 1 year delay on this case.

 

[pastronef]

somebody will be thinking how a mistake was banning Colo and Li Fuyu and the other clenbuterol guys

how could you ban them and now let Contador go?

 

[No_Balls]

Please don't. Come at me sis.

On what? We all know you are a traitor.

 

[movingtarget]

Hands up who wants to sponsor a professional cycling team ?.........I hear crickets. Once again two steps forward and two steps backwards. A sad day for the sport. Andy Stiff Neck gets his elusive TDF win.......will be about as thrilled as Oscar Perreiro after Landis' disqualification. Who will be team leader for Saxo in the TDF, that's if they last that long......

 

[FGimondi]

Haha.. You can disagree on the verdict as much as you like - that's fair enough but to call the rider who has almost given more victories away to other riders than he actually won himself unsportsmanlike is just laughable. Oh, and let's not forget Cancellara's cancelling of the race when Andy was on his **** 3 minutes after the peloton, shall we?

Yup, I'm mad because I think that what you do when it matters is more important than giving a handfull victories away to your friends when it doesn't matter.

Cantador decided when a victory in the Tour was in the balance it was more important to win than to do the right thing. So no Cantador proved when it matteres he's not a great sportsman. Though I'll admit he does a good impression of one.

Anyway great decision today. Couldn't have happened to a better guy.

 

[straydog]

But do you believe Zirbel was unfairly sanctioned, because if you dont think Zirbel was fairly sanctioned, then Contador would deserve the same benefit of doubt.

Instead you are suggesting he should get a four year sanction!! and talking about chasing him with your needle. Are you gonna chase Zirbel with a needle?

I think we know from your previous post history that you are just another Armstrong troll.

No I don't think Tom Zirbel was unfairly sanctioned....I felt sorry for him and believe he genuinely didn't take anything knowingly, but strict liability...it's a bummer....but those are the rules.

As to Contador's four years...well UKADA for example will seek a four year ban if there are multiple fails, and if the athlete seeks to apportion blame elsewhere....So Contador's receipt for that boil in the bag steak (which incidentally could have landed that farmer in jail were he prosecuted) would constitute a contravention of the latter and the former...well hopefully you get the point by now...

As to my feelings towards LA, I am not sure how they are relevant to this discussion but fire away if it makes you feel better on what I am sure must be a difficult day for all hypocrites everywhere

Peace

 

[hrotha]

On what? We all know you are a traitor.

Explain? ....

 

[The Hitch]

I'm glad Alberto has such loyal friends.

Oscar Perreiro is a real hero for the cause (of cycling vs the "clean sports), which is my cause, so to honour him all future passwords i choose will have some link with Perreiro. The ones I use at the moment (theme being - AC RULEZZZ) is getting kind of depressing to use

 

[LaFlorecita]

VERGONZOSO @albertocontador es castigado sin ser declarado culpable,la sentencia es de risa,estoy indignado,triste y sin palabras.

Oh Jesus, so sweet...

 

[Winternet_]

So this is the message that comes out at the end of all:

"We found ridiculous low levels of this illegal substance in this guy's body. It's proven that it has no bearing on his performance. We have no idea how it got there. We have no idea if the guy committed any foul play. We ban him for two years".

 

[straydog]

Sums it up for me.

If Contador had gone around bullying other riders who talked about doping, claimed conspiracy theoris and witchunts along with nationalistic jingoism, used social media to mock other people, made payments to the governing body, and most importantly used his health problems as his shield for doping. I would have as little respect for Contador as I have for Armstrong and that goes for all athletes.

Really?? He hasn't claimed conspiracy theories??

And his allergies have never been mentioned have they? And he's never been snarky on twitter has he? And no one has ever mentioned the brain tumour thing? And attacking after chaingate was such a sportsmanlike thing to do. Go Alberto!

So to sum up, it's ok to dope....as long as you are a nice guy!

Wow moral relativism fixes everything doesn't it.

No wonder our sport has such a bad name when people share this kind of view. Next time you post, honestly, think of it like using the bathroom...get up, look back, feel pride if you want....and then flush!

Peace

 

[LaFlorecita]

Oscar Perreiro is a real hero for the cause (of cycling vs the "clean sports), which is my cause, so to honour him all future passwords i choose will have some link with Perreiro. The ones I use at the moment (theme being - AC RULEZZZ) is getting kind of depressing to use

I don't know if you're joking but I'm actually using a password with some sort of Alberto reference. If you know my name, and my two biggest fangirl crushes, you can figure out the password I use for a couple of things, for others you also have to know my nickname and my birth date or both.

 

[TShame]

This will be lost among 1000 other posts but

Suspicion leads to greater punishment.

 

[roundabout]

Hernandez is unhappy that he may end up unemployed next year.