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sairyder said:
Can't seem to find it. Pretty sure it happened.
Here is confirmation that an "investigation" happened:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/white-investigation-referred-to-asada
Somewhat related:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/white-reconfirmed-in-cycling-australia-position
Found this:
Cycling Australia has referred allegations against White to the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority. The claims stem from 2001-2003, when he rode on Armstrong's US Postal Services team. White never failed a dope control as a cyclist. But in his letter to Johnson, Landis alleges that in 2003 he shared the drug EPO with White and Canadian rider Michael Barry when training for the Vuelta a Espana. "I spent a good deal of time training with Matthew White and Michael Barry and shared the testosterone and EPO that we had and discussed the use thereof while training,'' Landis wrote.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...s-mud-sticks-20100527-whsj.html#ixzz2954YnoiR
Cycling Australia has referred allegations against White to the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority. The claims stem from 2001-2003, when he rode on Armstrong's US Postal Services team. White never failed a dope control as a cyclist. But in his letter to Johnson, Landis alleges that in 2003 he shared the drug EPO with White and Canadian rider Michael Barry when training for the Vuelta a Espana. "I spent a good deal of time training with Matthew White and Michael Barry and shared the testosterone and EPO that we had and discussed the use thereof while training,'' Landis wrote.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...s-mud-sticks-20100527-whsj.html#ixzz2954YnoiR
Can't find anything on the net referring to Matt White and Asada outcome - What it did show me was the utterly namby pamby job cycling journalists have been doing in Australia regarding doping and Australian cyclists. Why weren't they following it up?
I keep going back to the Anderson report (which I linked to in the Matt White thread earlier) where Anderson talks about Frenchs evidence -and he keeps returning to this bit- where French describes a group of young AIS cyclists sitting in his room (in the early 2000's) injecting themselves (allegedly) with vitamins, amino acids, growth hormone, steroids etc both in Adelaide and also in Germany.
Anderson cannot get past this picture of young promising athletes doing this and thus finds French's evidence incredible and adds it to his reasoning dismissing French's evidence.
French describes it again and again even describing how they moved around the room to get the best light to see their veins as the direct light made it too difficult.
Its worth a read - After reading Tylers book I went straight back to the Anderson report - what seemed incredible then was probably pretty much on the mark. We will never know.
I keep going back to the Anderson report (which I linked to in the Matt White thread earlier) where Anderson talks about Frenchs evidence -and he keeps returning to this bit- where French describes a group of young AIS cyclists sitting in his room (in the early 2000's) injecting themselves (allegedly) with vitamins, amino acids, growth hormone, steroids etc both in Adelaide and also in Germany.
Anderson cannot get past this picture of young promising athletes doing this and thus finds French's evidence incredible and adds it to his reasoning dismissing French's evidence.
French describes it again and again even describing how they moved around the room to get the best light to see their veins as the direct light made it too difficult.
Its worth a read - After reading Tylers book I went straight back to the Anderson report - what seemed incredible then was probably pretty much on the mark. We will never know.
Last sanction for Australian cycling on the ASADA website is a case in 2008Ferminal said:
http://www.asada.gov.au/rules_and_violations/tribunal_findings.html
More from Rupert Guinness on Matt White
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/cycling-boss-in-drugs-inquiry-20121012-27iea.html
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/cycling-boss-in-drugs-inquiry-20121012-27iea.html
Amnesty one day Jail the next , this guy sounds like he is getting angry now!
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...s-cycling-australia-chief-20121012-27iay.html
sorry wrong link there try this
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...s-cycling-australia-chief-20121012-27iay.html
sorry wrong link there try this
sairyder said:
Odd, but do you think from this:
...he means the management, doctors, etc but the journalist/editor have framed it differently?
And the last sentence of the article.
sairyder said:
The results of the poll are telling at the moment. Almost 4000 votes currently and 80% no respect for Armstrong.
Even given that the poll is likely skewed by a high percentage of cycling fans, it's still telling for a Country that outside the US has had just about the highest level of infatuation for LA in the past.
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White seems likely to get into trouble but What's the view on Rogers who is named in the witness statements?
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about effecting or facilitating. About winning Olympic medals. Be clear because it could be ambibuous.JMBeaushrimp said:
Mueller is a chump.
DOPING cheats should be thrown in prison, says Australia's cycling chief Klaus Mueller
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...s-cycling-australia-chief-20121012-27iay.html
Mrs John Murphy said:
Best guess would be White loses his roles with Cycling Australia (possibly to be replaced by Allan Pieper) but will keep his roles with OGE as CA has to answer to government sporting bodies, which have government funding.
If Rogers sticks to his 'just training plans' story and there isn't any further corroborating evidence (in the form of witness to doping not just training, or transfers of large amounts of dollars to Ferrari, beyond that would be expected for just coaching) then there is probably nothing that can happen to him. He will no doubt have to answer to Sky and their no druggies policy, and face some uncomfortable questions from Australian authorities, however Floyd's evidence of seeing him training with a dodgy doctor (who wasn't off limits for Australian cyclists at the time) isn't enough to pop him for anything. Maybe something comes out of the Italian legal case showing what dollars transferred to Ferrari, as to date only the cash transfers specific to the USPS have been made public. There would no doubt be more details found during the same investigation/source.
blackcat said:
Well, I'd hate to be "ambibuous".
Aussies have doped for a long time, even before Vinnicombe.
I'm sure you can understand the demographic math, and what's going on...
Oz likes to win, and that's totally fair and all good. But take a look...
thehog said:
That was my point, and you took it well.
The AIS really did give a sh*t about doping! Just not really how we're talking about it now...
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agree with what you wrote.JMBeaushrimp said:
But Mueller and cohorts, Turtur et al, have facilitated it, and know what is going on and went on. And talk about criminalising doping? Please... dont make criminals of athletes. There are already criminal statutes that egregrious wrongdoing will proscribe.
Turtur lol 1980 gold in LA. 'nuff said
Now its front page news.....
http:///www.smh.com.au/
Love the caption - Cycling boss a drug user.....
and then in box below how the mighty have fallen, while its great this is making mainstream media, some of the reporting is a bit meh.
http:///www.smh.com.au/
Love the caption - Cycling boss a drug user.....
and then in box below how the mighty have fallen, while its great this is making mainstream media, some of the reporting is a bit meh.
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