pelodee said:I forgot about this - it's actually edited for that site but the comments/discussion afterwards is good. Here's the unedited original with mentions of Cadel Evans
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pelodee said:I forgot about this - it's actually edited for that site but the comments/discussion afterwards is good. Here's the unedited original with mentions of Cadel Evans
sairyder said:Do you have a link for that? Cleared by ASADA?
Yep I found the cycling news article too - but no official paperwork..Ferminal said:Can't seem to find it. Pretty sure it happened.
Here is confirmation that an "investigation" happened:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/white-investigation-referred-to-asada
Somewhat related:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/white-reconfirmed-in-cycling-australia-position
Last sanction for Australian cycling on the ASADA website is a case in 2008Ferminal said:Can't seem to find it. Pretty sure it happened.
Here is confirmation that an "investigation" happened:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/white-investigation-referred-to-asada
Somewhat related:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/white-reconfirmed-in-cycling-australia-position
Ferminal said:Can't seem to find it. Pretty sure it happened.
Here is confirmation that an "investigation" happened:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/white-investigation-referred-to-asada
Somewhat related:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/white-reconfirmed-in-cycling-australia-position
sairyder said:Amnesty one day Jail the next , this guy sounds like he is getting angry now!
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...s-cycling-australia-chief-20121012-27iay.html
sorry wrong link there try this
''It's one thing, and I'm not condoning it for a moment, of an individual doping, but I think it takes it to a completely different level when you have got a team owner and manager inveigling, if not coercing, the young cyclists who come into that team … to take doping product. I think that is immensely reprehensible,'' Mueller said yesterday.
sairyder said:Amnesty one day Jail the next , this guy sounds like he is getting angry now!
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...s-cycling-australia-chief-20121012-27iay.html
sorry wrong link there try this
Dear Wiggo said:Amnesty? I think he means, "Sweep it under the carpet and carry on as you were."
Since when have ASADA, CA or AIS ever given a damn about doping?
about effecting or facilitating. About winning Olympic medals. Be clear because it could be ambibuous.JMBeaushrimp said:I'm pretty sure AIS has given a serious damn about doping for a long time...
Mrs John Murphy said:White seems likely to get into trouble but What's the view on Rogers who is named in the witness statements?
blackcat said:about effecting or facilitating. About winning Olympic medals. Be clear because it could be ambibuous.
Mueller is a chump.
DOPING cheats should be thrown in prison, says Australia's cycling chief Klaus Mueller
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...s-cycling-australia-chief-20121012-27iay.html
JMBeaushrimp said:I'm pretty sure AIS has given a serious damn about doping for a long time...
thehog said:Not in my day. We'd inject in front of admin and coaches daily.
It was a free for all on government money.
I could tell you some stories about Whitey & SOG in Adelaide.
JMBeaushrimp said:That was my point, and you took it well.
The AIS really did give a sh*t about doping! Just not really how we're talking about it now...
ambiguous count?JMBeaushrimp said:Well, I'd hate to be "ambibuous".
Aussies have doped for a long time, even before Vinnicombe.
I'm sure you can understand the demographic math, and what's going on...
Oz likes to win, and that's totally fair and all good. But take a look...
Jobie Dajka hung out to dry?thehog said:Not in my day. We'd inject in front of admin and coaches daily.
It was a free for all on government money.
I could tell you some stories about Whitey & SOG in Adelaide.
agree with what you wrote.JMBeaushrimp said:Well, I'd hate to be "ambibuous".
Aussies have doped for a long time, even before Vinnicombe.
I'm sure you can understand the demographic math, and what's going on...
Oz likes to win, and that's totally fair and all good. But take a look...
blackcat said:agree with what you wrote.
But Mueller and cohorts, Turtur et al, have facilitated it, and know what is going on and went on. And talk about criminalising doping? Please... dont make criminals of athletes. There are already criminal statutes that egregrious wrongdoing will proscribe.
Turtur lol 1980 gold in LA. 'nuff said