Amstel Gold Race: April 21st, 2019

[Broccolidwarf]

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Fuglsang sould let the other 2 come back

That would be a brilliant move. Instead of racing for a 100% 2nd place, why not race for a 100% 4th place!

Erm, it's cycle racing tactics 101. It's way easier for a 'weaker' rider to escape from a group of four than from a group of two.

Don’t think Fuglsang is weaker, just less explosive.

If he gets 25 meters on Alaphilippe, it becomes an individual TT, where Fuglsang might be stronger.

Agreed. But it might be easier to make that gap from a group of four. Rather than from a group of two, where Alaphilippe will immediately try to respond to any move.

But then the 3 work together to bring you back.

Two sides to every coin dude

Edit: Now Trentin is dropped, I agree with you

 

[Gigs_98]

How long will fuglsang work with Alaphilippe. Would be really lame if he just races for 2nd

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Re: Re:

Fuglsang sould let the other 2 come back

That would be a brilliant move. Instead of racing for a 100% 2nd place, why not race for a 100% 4th place!

Erm, it's cycle racing tactics 101. It's way easier for a 'weaker' rider to escape from a group of four than from a group of two.

It's especially way easier to be 4th than 2nd, against 3 guys that are lightyears faster. Each of the 3 others know if they go with him, they win. The only way he is going to the finish solo, is if he is stronger. And then it doesn't matter if they are in a group of 2 or 4.

 

[fuiers]

Kwiatkowski going to catch em?

 

[DFA123]

Schachmann looks to have great legs. Really let down by his main domestique Sagan today - needed him badly to close that gap a bit before he tried to bridge.

 

[Vroome.exe]

How long will fuglsang work with Alaphilippe. Would be really lame if he just races for 2nd

Ala has a tendancy to start his sprint too early, and Fuglsang isn't that slow. It's not a guaranteed win in case of a sprint finish.

 

[Jancouver]

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Kwiatkowski going to catch em?

Only if they start playing games before the finish line.

 

[DFA123]

Re: Re:

Fuglsang sould let the other 2 come back

That would be a brilliant move. Instead of racing for a 100% 2nd place, why not race for a 100% 4th place!

Erm, it's cycle racing tactics 101. It's way easier for a 'weaker' rider to escape from a group of four than from a group of two.

It's especially way easier to be 4th than 2nd, against 3 guys that are lightyears faster. Each of the 3 others know if they go with him, they win. The only way he is going to the finish solo, is if he is stronger. And then it doesn't matter if they are in a group of 2 or 4.

Have you watched a cycling race before? From a group of two, the strongest pretty much always wins. From a group of 4, tactics come much more into play.

 

[Salvarani]

Good lord, now even Bala doesn't seem to be his normal self. Movistar could really be in for a terrible season.

To add to this thread, I hope Fuglsang finds a way to take this but I have little hope if he arrives with Ala and/or Trentin.

Valverde could be waiting for the two races coming up instead I think.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

nice race now

 

[Pirazziattacks]

According to ES that climb was steep. I mean, maybe after racing 250 ks...

 

[Salvarani]

Trentin impressing with this ride

 

[Velolover2]

This small roads are not much bigger than bicycle paths with riders all over the place. The era of a 50-rider sprint is finally over.

Don't understand Fuglsang's strategy here.. Is he really riding for second?

 

[fuiers]

Sagan DNF. Jeez.

 

[Son of Amsterhammer]

I hope Fuglsang gets something from QS for his service to them this season.

 

[DFA123]

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This small roads are not much bigger than bicycle paths with riders all over the place. The era of a 50-rider sprint is finally over.

Don't understand Fuglsang strategy here.. Is he really riding for second?

He must be feeling strong and thinking he's got a chance of dropping Alaphilippe.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Re: Re:

Fuglsang sould let the other 2 come back

That would be a brilliant move. Instead of racing for a 100% 2nd place, why not race for a 100% 4th place!

Erm, it's cycle racing tactics 101. It's way easier for a 'weaker' rider to escape from a group of four than from a group of two.

It's especially way easier to be 4th than 2nd, against 3 guys that are lightyears faster. Each of the 3 others know if they go with him, they win. The only way he is going to the finish solo, is if he is stronger. And then it doesn't matter if they are in a group of 2 or 4.

Have you watched a cycling race before? From a group of two, the strongest pretty much always wins. From a group of 4, tactics come much more into play.

I have watched many races. Thank you. Have you? Leave the arrogant attitude at the door or *** off.

If he rides with Alaphilippe, he is certain of a 2nd place. If he lets the others come back, he has one chance to place an attack, with ALL OF THEM knowing if they can get in his wheel, they will win. So it comes down to chosing between 95% a second place, and 5% chance of winning. Or a 15% chance of winning and a 85% chance of becoming 4th.

 

[Screecher]

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Sagan DNF. Jeez.

Expected.

 

[Billie]

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Don't understand Fuglsang's strategy here.. Is he really riding for second?

he always rides like that

 

[Salvarani]

Mollema about to get Trek their best classics result for this season?

 

[DFA123]

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If he rides with Alaphilippe, he is certain of a 2nd place. If he lets the others come back, he has one chance to place an attack, with ALL OF THEM knowing if they can get in his wheel, they will win. So it comes down to chosing between 95% a second place, and 5% chance of winning. Or a 15% chance of winning and a 85% chance of becoming 4th.

Right, so you agree then. He has better chances of winning from a group of four.

 

[DFA123]

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Sagan DNF. Jeez.

Saving himself for Liege?

 

[Gigs_98]

Lol fuglsang still working. Lame

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Great to see Alaphilippe and Fuglsang going at it again. Really two of the riders of the season so far. I just wish Fuglsang would stop riding for second places.

 

[Red Rick]

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The scary thing is that the 2 in front aren't the type that suffer from the bigger climbs in Fleche and LBL.

LBL should be the biggest chance to dislodge Alaphilippe

Not a chance, Ala is Jalabert and Rebellin rolled in one.

Alaphilippe was surprisingly unspectacular in the hills of Tirreno.