No! He can't! He won't! It's not gonna happen!
He's not gonna get another GT top 10, ever!
He's not gonna get another GT top 10, ever!
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No! He can't! He won't! It's not gonna happen!
He's not gonna get another GT top 10, ever!
No! He can't! He won't! It's not gonna happen!
He's not gonna get another GT top 10, ever!
So what's Klödi been up to ? Do we know if he stayed friends with Ulle after 2006 ?
I remember in that leaked home video of Ullrich a couple of years ago (the one where he talked about wanting to be world champion of smoking and doing 1000 sit-ups a day) he also said that he calls everybody (like his house staff) his "Klödis" since they're his helpers. If I were Klöden I'd be pretty annoyed by that.So what's Klödi been up to ? Do we know if he stayed friends with Ulle after 2006 ?
I know when Klöden was still racing towards the end of his career that he and Ullrich would ride and camp together. There former director thought of them always hanging out and drinking when Klöden retired. I think when Ullrich's drama started it said they were still friends. Plus I think they both live in Switzerland still.So what's Klödi been up to ? Do we know if he stayed friends with Ulle after 2006 ?
I know when Klöden was still racing towards the end of his career that he and Ullrich would ride and camp together. There former director thought of them always hanging out and drinking when Klöden retired. I think when Ullrich's drama started it said they were still friends. Plus I think they both live in Switzerland still.
Keep posting random stuff to keep this thread up here.
I think the thread is dead and buried by now, but I‘m digging it up because I just stumbled upon it. Why was (and is) Andreas Klöden relatively popular among cycling fans of the 2000s? Is it mainly his style on a bike (which was great most of the time) or his personality (a rather shy guy I have read)?This thread will never die!
For me it definitely was his style on the bike (which the Norwegian commentators always pointed out was beautiful). Adding to the style in 2004 was his clean German National Champ jersey, just a fantastic look!I think the thread is dead and buried by now, but I‘m digging it up because I just stumbled upon it. Why was (and is) Andreas Klöden relatively popular among cycling fans of the 2000s? Is it mainly his style on a bike (which was great most of the time) or his personality (a rather shy guy I have read)?
Not just the 2000s but a lot of posters are/were fans on Klödi. There’s just something about a rider with all the talent to win at the top, yet shies away from the limelight and leadership in the service of others, has had multiple crashes and mishaps hamper his career from getting better results, and of course looked amazing on the bike.I think the thread is dead and buried by now, but I‘m digging it up because I just stumbled upon it. Why was (and is) Andreas Klöden relatively popular among cycling fans of the 2000s? Is it mainly his style on a bike (which was great most of the time) or his personality (a rather shy guy I have read)?
We should wait for the OP to respond as he is still active. I too didn’t really understand Kloden’s allure? Looked amazing on the bike? Surely there was more to it than that?Not just the 2000s but a lot of posters are/were fans on Klödi. There’s just something about a rider with all the talent to win at the top, yet shies away from the limelight and leadership in the service of others, has had multiple crashes and mishaps hamper his career from getting better results, and of course looked amazing on the bike.
I think the thread is dead and buried by now, but I‘m digging it up because I just stumbled upon it. Why was (and is) Andreas Klöden relatively popular among cycling fans of the 2000s? Is it mainly his style on a bike (which was great most of the time) or his personality (a rather shy guy I have read)?
12 years since you created this, you both have staying power. I was just a lurker then.I think that Andreas was probably disliked by more cycling fans than liked, however, he had a few hard core fans on here which is why this thread was somewhat popular.
The thread's activity was also because Klöden was kind of a throw back to a darker era (at least in perception), but he remained a stage race contender for a few years after this forum began, whereas his more accomplished and famous compatriot Jan Ullrich was long retired by then.
Why no slightly popular Ivan Basso thread then? It's probably just coincidence that I was a big Klöden fan (I've always tended to find the secondary stars in sports more interesting than the super stars), as were a few others here. Seems like there are more Italians here than Germans, though perhaps not 10-15 years ago.
As others have mentioned, Klöden had numerous what if moments in grand tours, a little like Landa, and rode along that fine line in-between team leader and super domestique, a little like Landa, though perhaps his ceiling was a little higher than Landa's. Andreas also had that shady side to him where he was caught but at the same time never caught. Perhaps this also added to his allure.
There was a great article in 2011, I think it was called "What's eating Andreas Klöden?" That explained the cyclist and the interest that some fans had in him quite well.
Did I see it correctly on his Wikipedia that Klöden never won a gt stage? Damn