Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Andy just needs a Bjarne hug. So, next season he will be back, as a domestique for Alberto.

 

[Miburo]

Andy just needs a Bjarne hug. So, next season he will be back, as a domestique for Alberto.

Seriously one day I think they'll ride together, call it a gut feeling cause i know it doesn't make any sense

 

[jyhjyh]

if i were him I would go see a psychiatrist and stop wasting my team's money, time and effort.

I agree with you on that point.

I remember Riis said "everything comes so easy to him".

Now Andy has to fight for everything for the first time in his life.
But he don't know how.

So maybe a psychiatrist could help him.

 

[jyhjyh]

Andy just needs a Bjarne hug. So, next season he will be back, as a domestique for Alberto.

I think you are rigth. Would not surprise me if Andy and co. regrets the escape from Riis.

Could be fun with Andy and Cancellara back with Riis from 2014

 

[Taxus4a]

Andy has to decide what he wants to do. The Tour starts in less than five months. You would think he would be hungry for success after last year was written off and he was second in the 2011 Tour. This year's Tour is a good route for him so what does he need to be motivated ? He seems to have plenty of talent. I have given up trying to understand him. After last year many people wanted to see him come back strong including myself but the latest news does not sound good at all. I thought that the business with his brother might motivate him to succeed even more but he seems to be falling back into old habits.

He has had a bad injury. His come back in Beijin was precipitate because he didnt want to be so long time without race, but there he was fat and out of shape, because a long time out of bike, and later just training two hours becouse the pain.
His comeback in Australia show an improvement, he has lost 4 kilos in winter time, and you don t get that in the sofá, he could finish the toughgets stages as Willunga and he even could help the team some days, even push of the peloton a day.
In the comeback to the codl Europe he has had problems with the weather change, and now he is taking antibiotics. It is a backstep, but it is no major problem for the moment. We will see in next races if we must be worried or not.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

So maybe a psychiatrist could help him.

Then he should move to Team Sky, they have a shrink on staff.

But seriously, it is getting worse and worse with Andy, I do not like that. He has no balls, at least it looks like that.

As a teammanager I would force him to ride Roubaix and let him suffer.

 

[The Hitch]

I think you are rigth. Would not surprise me if Andy and co. regrets the escape from Riis.

Could be fun with Andy and Cancellara back with Riis from 2014

How would this work. Contador banned, at movistar or also with riis ?

 

[jyhjyh]

How would this work. Contador banned, at movistar or also with riis ?

I answered to this with a smiley:

'Originally Posted by Fearless Greg Lemond
Andy just needs a Bjarne hug. So, next season he will be back, as a domestique for Alberto.'

So go figure yourself

 

[Carols]

I answered to this with a smiley:

'Originally Posted by Fearless Greg Lemond
Andy just needs a Bjarne hug. So, next season he will be back, as a domestique for Alberto.'

So go figure yourself

Well his has to get his head screwed on right and find some form or he'd even be useless as a domestique!

 

[Angliru]

You might have right about selfishness and collegiality. Although in cycling a single rider stands on the podium, there's the whole team behind him. And Leopard is created primarily because of Andy. So he should be a bit more responsible and less egocentric. But maybe his current condition prevents him to be. He was very enthusiastic in Australia last month. Frank's suspension did happen in the meantime, but I think there's more than that.

He should speak with Jensie. Not about repaying services, but about cycling, career... life in general - if you want. Maybe there's still no need for professional intervention.

I would've thought that in all the years he's spent on the same team with Voigt that maybe a little of Voigt's professionalism and work ethic would have rubbed off but it appears not. Add to that the opportunity to learn from O'Grady and Cancellara. What has he been doing all these years?

 

[airstream]

as all genuises Andy relies on his talent. probably too much. but we have to see the ardennes at least.

 

[cineteq]

as all genuises Andy relies on his talent. probably too much. but we have to see the ardennes at least.

Andy can no longer rely on his talent, U23s can. Preparation and willing to suffer is the only way up.

 

[airstream]

Andy can no longer rely on his talent, U23s can. Preparation and willing to suffer is the only way up.

I agree with you basically. Though IMO talent is inside of a rider whatever his age. Talent just underlines how much easier one achieves something than other one.

 

[cineteq]

I agree with you basically. Though IMO talent is inside of a rider whatever his age. Talent just underlines how much easier one achieves something than other one.

I meant to say this: Andy can no longer rely just on his talent, U23s can.

 

[ferryman]

as all genuises Andy relies on his talent. probably too much. but we have to see the ardennes at least.

As potentially talented Andy is, he is certainly no genius on or off the bike. But yes, agreed, lets give him time to get ir right. Still very early.

 

[autologous]

As potentially talented Andy is, he is certainly no genius on or off the bike. But yes, agreed, lets give him time to get ir right. Still very early.

Yeah, still plenty of time to learn how to shift without jamming his chain.

 

[Miburo]

as all genuises Andy relies on his talent. probably too much. but we have to see the ardennes at least.

You'll make more excuses after the ardennes anyways

 

[burning]

You'll make more excuses after the ardennes anyways

It's ok. Andy just preffers not to use volition on preparatory races. The hill required some extra efforts and he easily switched to the mode of training cadence.

He's going to post something like that when he fails at ardennes.
(That post was made after he got dropped on a 3rd cat climb at Dauphine)

 

[airstream]

He's going to post something like that when he fails at ardennes.
(That post was made after he got dropped on a 3rd cat climb at Dauphine)

That post is not for acrimonious posters who like hanging out in this thread. I post what I find necessary. Thanx.

 

[serfla]

I would've thought that in all the years he's spent on the same team with Voigt that maybe a little of Voigt's professionalism and work ethic would have rubbed off but it appears not. Add to that the opportunity to learn from O'Grady and Cancellara. What has he been doing all these years?

Although rhetorically appointed, the explanations imposes by itself... He was busy partying and thinking he knows everything about the business. Just like most of successful lads in his age.

 

[movingtarget]

Although rhetorically appointed, the explanations imposes by itself... He was busy partying and thinking he knows everything about the business. Just like most of successful lads in his age.

I don't agree with you. To say that all successful athletes or most of them in that age group act the same way as Schleck does them a disservice. This is a guy who said he was not happy to win the 2010 Tour after Contador was disqualified. He wanted to win it "on the road." This is the guy who finished second in 2011 when many expected him to win as he did himself and after meeting Contador post Giro. This is the guy who is angry about what happened to his brother re positive sample. Who also missed the Tour in 2012. If ever someone should be motivated it is Schleck. The guy is either delusional, an enigma or a fool or all three.

 

[Angliru]

Yeah, still plenty of time to learn how to shift without jamming his chain.

I think he's impatiently waiting for the invention of the remote-controlled shifting group. Takes the responsibility out of his hands.

 

[airstream]

Awe, I see there are a lot of pros in the thread and everyone feels compelled to advise Andy how he should jibe his chain between big and little rings. Great!

 

[Carols]

I think he's impatiently waiting for the invention of the remote-controlled shifting group. Takes the responsibility out of his hands.

In my day there were chain guards. Do they still exist?

 

[iZnoGouD]

Andy can no longer rely on his talent, U23s can. Preparation and willing to suffer is the only way up.

Talent is overrated, do you really think he made it to the top with talent?