Teams & Riders Anna Kiesenhofer: Mathematician, amateur cyclist, Olympic champion thread

[glassmoon]

Chapeau Anna!

 

[Pinot's goat]

The only cyclist who has a thread made for them whilst they are amateur?

 

[JosefK]

Chapeau Anna!

Yes, I kind of have a crush on her now. If I were just 30 years younger, had some money and ambition, and looked no worse than a big-eared emaciated chimpanzee, I might have a go.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Anna Grande.

 

[Barnacle Bill]

And her advanced stealth coating makes her almost undetectable on radar. Truly multi-talented.

Anyway, congratulations on a great win!

 

[glassmoon]

The only cyclist who has a thread made for them whilst they are amateur?

yeah... there is a danger it can go quiet pretty soon. maybe we can post some of her PhD research to keep it alive

 

[Samu Cuenca]

The only cyclist who has a thread made for them whilst they are amateur?

Evenepoel was not a pro either. But she is probably the first woman/adult.

 

[will-10]

The only cyclist who has a thread made for them whilst they are amateur?

Remco's thread started while he was still a child tbh.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The only cyclist who has a thread made for them whilst they are amateur?

Not only that, but the only cyclist who has a thread made for them, but only four years after they finish their pro career!

 

[glassmoon]

Not only that, but the only cyclist who has a thread made for them, but only four years after they finish their pro career!

I was waiting for her to win the Olympics road race to make the timing impeccable

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

So she was offered a pro contract at Lotto a few years ago, but she declined, right?

 

[yaco]

I fail to understand the relevance of this thread - She has made it clear that she will not join the professional peleton - And then to compete at the World's or the Olympics is reliant on the results of other Austrian riders - It could be a quiet thread !

 

[glassmoon]

I fail to understand the relevance of this thread - She has made it clear that she will not join the professional peleton - And then to compete at the World's or the Olympics is reliant on the results of other Austrian riders - It could be a quiet thread !

You're no fun

 

[Libertine Seguros]

So she was offered a pro contract at Lotto a few years ago, but she declined, right?

She took it up but didn't enjoy racing in the péloton, didn't have the same freedom to split time with her studies as she had liked (the WWT commitments meant Lotto weren't able to do as they had done with, say, Pooley in 2014) and they parted ways mid-season, going back to racing Gran Fondos and occasional championships performances as she had been before. She was noticed largely because of that win on Mont Ventoux in l'Ardêche in 2016 on the national squad, and it's not like she's been away from pro races since as she did finish on the podium of l'Ardêche last year too. I suspect we may see her on a few Austrian national teams doing occasional races when she wants to, I think as the Olympic champion there might be more invites extended to them as a result but she'll pick and choose her calendar around what suits her.

I mean, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that somebody (probably a non-World Team) offers her a deal that works for her, but it would need to be something akin to what Kristin Armstrong had at Twenty16 / Twenty20 (where she was part of ownership and would come in to selected races just to do what she needed to get into the frame for Olympic selection, then letting nepotism get her the rest of the way) or what Mara Abbott had at Wiggle-Honda (where she was officially on the squad but was to all intents and purposes a mercenary for a couple of set races, and spent the rest of the time riding back at home in America where she was comfortable) for her to be interested.

 

[Ricco']

A post doc at Lausanne University earns something like 80000 CHF per year (and as we can see, can train and ride bikes in a good level). Hard to see earning so good in the pro peloton before this race.

 

[Pirazziattacks]

Some of her interview quotes are hilarious, she should've just said shoutout to the haters and fake friends.

 

[Pirazziattacks]

A post doc at Lausanne University earns something like 80000 CHF per year (and as we can see, can train and ride bikes in a good level). Hard to see earning so good in the pro peloton before this race.

Almost anywhere you'd probably need to divide that number by at least 3 these days, although there may still mythical European countries where junior academics are rumoured to be able to earn a living wage or more.

 

[King Boonen]

A post doc at Lausanne University earns something like 80000 CHF per year (and as we can see, can train and ride bikes in a good level). Hard to see earning so good in the pro peloton before this race.

Errr... I think your information may be incorrect here.

 

[Ricco']

Errr... I think your information may be incorrect here.

How? I based my post with these values.

ACIDE – Association du Corps Intermediaire & Doctorant-e-s de

acide.epfl.ch

 

[happytramp]

I fail to understand the relevance of this thread - She has made it clear that she will not join the professional peleton - And then to compete at the World's or the Olympics is reliant on the results of other Austrian riders - It could be a quiet thread !

Of course you don't Annemiek.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Almost anywhere you'd probably need to divide that number by at least 3 these days, although there may still mythical European countries where junior academics are rumoured to be able to earn a living wage or more.

Errr... I think your information may be incorrect here.

Anywhere else in Europe I would agree that post-doc academic positions are badly paid but this is Switzerland we're talking about here, so I think that number could be correct.

 

[Mayomaniac]

She took it up but didn't enjoy racing in the péloton, didn't have the same freedom to split time with her studies as she had liked (the WWT commitments meant Lotto weren't able to do as they had done with, say, Pooley in 2014) and they parted ways mid-season, going back to racing Gran Fondos and occasional championships performances as she had been before. She was noticed largely because of that win on Mont Ventoux in l'Ardêche in 2016 on the national squad, and it's not like she's been away from pro races since as she did finish on the podium of l'Ardêche last year too. I suspect we may see her on a few Austrian national teams doing occasional races when she wants to, I think as the Olympic champion there might be more invites extended to them as a result but she'll pick and choose her calendar around what suits her.

I mean, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that somebody (probably a non-World Team) offers her a deal that works for her, but it would need to be something akin to what Kristin Armstrong had at Twenty16 / Twenty20 (where she was part of ownership and would come in to selected races just to do what she needed to get into the frame for Olympic selection, then letting nepotism get her the rest of the way) or what Mara Abbott had at Wiggle-Honda (where she was officially on the squad but was to all intents and purposes a mercenary for a couple of set races, and spent the rest of the time riding back at home in America where she was comfortable) for her to be interested.

She also won the Coppa d'España in 2016 while getting her PHD and living in Catalunya, so he was probably the best rider on the spanish domestic scene that year.
About the wages in Switzerland, yes they are high, but so are the costs of living. In the end you're making a bit more than you'd in an other country, but not that much.

While you won't get rich in academia it's also about following your passion and doing what you love (at least on paper), at least in my experience.

 

[King Boonen]

How? I based my post with these values.

ACIDE – Association du Corps Intermediaire & Doctorant-e-s de

acide.epfl.ch

Anywhere else in Europe I would agree that post-doc academic positions are badly paid but this is Switzerland we're talking about here, so I think that number could be correct.

Probably my issue being in the UK, but whenever I see salaries I assume it's after tax. This is before tax, which makes more sense. I knew they were well paid but I didn't think they are that well paid!

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I have never seen UK salaries advertised or reported post-tax.

 

[King Boonen]

I have never seen UK salaries advertised or reported post-tax.

Seeing was probably a confusing work to use there, but I didn't mean advertised.