"another interesting piece I found on the UCI and president Pat McQuaid " Thread

[kielbasa]

He had me till Conconi. wtf?

It was just a dare.

 

[Mishrak]

Talk about a scandal.... This one is epic. Conconi takes money from the IOC to fund research for an EPO test then uses the money to dope Italian Pros with EPO. Who worked with Conconi? Ferrari....

Somewhere during/prior he publishes the Conconi fitness test protocol that's legitimately good science. But, the EPO stuff is reprehensible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Conconi#Introduction_of_EPO_to_Cycling

More details here definitely worth reading: http://www.podiumcafe.com/2011/2/16...on-the-causes-of-doping-francesco-conconi-and Gets into Verdruggen's role pretty well.

Thanks for these links. I never knew this stuff.

 

[Deagol]

apoligies if this has been posted already but:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-im-not-trying-to-save-lance-armstrongs-skin

this is well deserved..

 

[D-Queued]

apoligies if this has been posted already but:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-im-not-trying-to-save-lance-armstrongs-skin

this is well deserved..

Pat McQuaid is one step closer to being eliminated as an Olympic sport.

Dave.

 

[Race Radio]

A lot of people think Pat is a fool

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...rmstrong-case-files-prior-to-sanctions_234070

Then he goes and calls a press conference and confirms it

 

[D-Queued]

A lot of people think Pat is a fool

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...rmstrong-case-files-prior-to-sanctions_234070

Then he goes and calls a press conference and confirms it

Kind of reminiscent of Haigspeak and the senility confirming statement, "I'm in charge here."

Classic Emperor with No Clothes.

Dave.

 

[Oldman]

Kind of reminiscent of Haigspeak and the senility confirming statement, "I'm in charge here."

Classic Emperor with No Clothes.

Dave.

Haig at least had a bunker with some good wine vintages. Pat's Irish sober and still selling his feeble line of sh*te. People will quit listening to him soon.

 

[Stueyy]

Was that McQuaid presenting the medals to the 4x100m mens relay teams? If so how and why?

 

[Darryl Webster]

Was that McQuaid presenting the medals to the 4x100m mens relay teams? If so how and why?

Yes it was. Pat,s desperate to become a full IOC committee member. His face has been on uk TV presenting medals more than any other that I've seen.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Yes it was. Pat,s desperate to become a full IOC committee member. His face has been on uk TV presenting medals more than any other that I've seen.

In the u.s. There's occasional clips of him making nice with royalty and Sky riders.

I think Baghdad Bob is the better analogy. Still, it's the UCI and have gotten away with more embarrassing stuff. Unless it bothers the IOC, they are good to go.

 

[Stueyy]

Yes it was. Pat,s desperate to become a full IOC committee member. His face has been on uk TV presenting medals more than any other that I've seen.

Well I suppose he is slimy and you wouldn't trust him as far as you could throw him but he isn't stupid...

 

[the big ring]

Well I suppose he is slimy and you wouldn't trust him as far as you could throw him but he isn't stupid...

Disagree that he isn't stupid. If anything, Heiny is suggesting he get in bed with IOC asap as IOC trumps WADA. So Phat is just following orders.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Alright legal people:

Since Phatty's said that they'd like a third party (CAS, even) to look into this, and that arbitration is when disclosure occurs, is he totally off his rocker?

He seems to be demanding evidence that would be disclosed during arbitration, while at the same time asking for arbitration.

Am I totally wrong? Are his arguments that banal?

 

[Darryl Webster]

Disagree that he isn't stupid. If anything, Heiny is suggesting he get in bed with IOC asap as IOC trumps WADA. So Phat is just following orders.

Yup that makes absolute sense. The IOC is to clean sport what the UN is to peace.

 

[pugdog]

Yup that makes absolute sense. The IOC is to clean sport what the UN is to peace.

I love it! I love it!

 

[the big ring]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-confirms-zorzoli-as-uci-source-of-armstrong-documents

"We were always under the impression it was only one form," McQuaid said. "There is this confusion as to what happened when he [L'Equipe journalist Damien Ressiot - ed.] was here, but he must have given the guy the 15 copies," he said. McQuaid claims that Ressiot convinced the doctor that the aim of his article was to support Armstrong's claims that "he had been competing without the use of agents that were used for his cancer treatment. So, obviously, he gave him the information."

Am I so bitter and twisted at the UCI that I read this as indelibly corrupt, or is it really as ridiculous as it sounds, given the USADA case and now Phat's defense of Lance er I mean the process in place at USADA?

 

[D-Queued]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-confirms-zorzoli-as-uci-source-of-armstrong-documents

"We were always under the impression it was only one form," McQuaid said. "There is this confusion as to what happened when he [L'Equipe journalist Damien Ressiot - ed.] was here, but he must have given the guy the 15 copies," he said. McQuaid claims that Ressiot convinced the doctor that the aim of his article was to support Armstrong's claims that "he had been competing without the use of agents that were used for his cancer treatment. So, obviously, he gave him the information."

Am I so bitter and twisted at the UCI that I read this as indelibly corrupt, or is it really as ridiculous as it sounds, given the USADA case and now Phat's defense of Lance er I mean the process in place at USADA?

Yes, you should read that as incredibly corrupt.

In this case, though, you should read that as both incredibly corrupt and as incredibly incompetent.

That same article goes on to note that:

However, in a meeting between WADA chairman **** Pound and UCI vice-president Hein Verbruggen at the Winter Olympics in Torino, Pound informed Verbruggen that WADA had obtained copies of all 15 doping control forms signed by Lance Armstrong during the 1999 Tour de France and that those copies originated from the UCI.

One of the best parts of that episode was that the UCI kept claiming that they had not provide the forms... then they had only provided one form...

When, in fact, the UCI's Zorzoli had provided all of them.

Dave.

 

[mewmewmew13]

I was reading this old FL article and this caught my eye.....

"Pat McQuaid, president of the International Cycling Union, said he felt sorry for Landis. “The fact is that we caught Floyd Landis and, at the end of the day, we continue to catch guys that beat the system,” he said. “It strikes me that with Landis, it’s just a last roll of a desperate man. It’s unfortunate. He’s turned on us.”

Irony comes back to bite you in the ****.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/sports/cycling/21cycling.html?pagewanted=all

 

[will10]

I was reading this old FL article and this caught my eye.....

"Pat McQuaid, president of the International Cycling Union, said he felt sorry for Landis. “The fact is that we caught Floyd Landis and, at the end of the day, we continue to catch guys that beat the system,” he said. “It strikes me that with Landis, it’s just a last roll of a desperate man. It’s unfortunate. He’s turned on us.”

Irony comes back to bite you in the ****.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/sports/cycling/21cycling.html?pagewanted=all

That is a great find!

 

[Mishrak]

I was foaming at the mouth a little, until I realized it wasn't a real article.

http://www.cyclismas.com/2012/08/ve...awsuit-against-ny-times-for-damage-to-cycling

 

[the asian]

Was that McQuaid presenting the medals to the 4x100m mens relay teams? If so how and why?

Because the 4*100 WR was as believable as LA's 7 TDF victories.

 

[thehog]

http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/2012/08/13/the-last-king/

The IOC certainly has a dim view of the organization’s leadership capabilities given continuing talk of the breakaway league. And now comes the biggest doping investigation of the sport’s history and the president of the UCI—on the Olympic stage no less—is making an utter fool of himself and his organization, raising serious questions about not just their impartiality but their potential active involvement in a cover-up.I don’t claim to know whether the UCI is united behind McQuaid. It’s hard to know since he is not just the president and public face of the organization but typically the only official to speak publicly.

At the press conference, Verbiest offered a few answers, and official spokesman Enrico Carpani can also be found offering a few statements. But by and large, McQuaid serves as the agency’s spokesman on most matters.

McQuaid was only elected UCI president in 2006. Much of the specifics in the Armstrong case happened before his time heading the organization. But whatever else is going on at the UCI, by making himself so central to the organization’s public side, this is McQuaid’s problem.

He’s not making things any easier for himself, and he’s putting his entire organization—and the sport—in jeopardy. If he keeps it up much longer, McQuaid may go down not only as the latest president of the UCI but also its last.

 

[User Guide]

http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/2012/08/13/the-last-king/

The IOC certainly has a dim view of the organization’s leadership capabilities given continuing talk of the breakaway league. And now comes the biggest doping investigation of the sport’s history and the president of the UCI—on the Olympic stage no less—is making an utter fool of himself and his organization, raising serious questions about not just their impartiality but their potential active involvement in a cover-up.I don’t claim to know whether the UCI is united behind McQuaid. It’s hard to know since he is not just the president and public face of the organization but typically the only official to speak publicly.

At the press conference, Verbiest offered a few answers, and official spokesman Enrico Carpani can also be found offering a few statements. But by and large, McQuaid serves as the agency’s spokesman on most matters.

McQuaid was only elected UCI president in 2006. Much of the specifics in the Armstrong case happened before his time heading the organization. But whatever else is going on at the UCI, by making himself so central to the organization’s public side, this is McQuaid’s problem.

He’s not making things any easier for himself, and he’s putting his entire organization—and the sport—in jeopardy. If he keeps it up much longer, McQuaid may go down not only as the latest president of the UCI but also its last.

not sure if this has been posted,from the same site....
http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/2012/08/03/troubles-on-the-track/2/


"What about keirin, essentially a multi-rider match sprint with strange rules? A 2008 BBC investigation found that, in exchange for making the event an Olympic discipline, Japanese Keirin Association officials essentially paid up to $3 million in bribes to the UCI. What do you expect from a sport that was created to support sports betting?"

 

[Deagol]

this
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/frank-schleck-the-only-positive-test-from-tour-de-france

should not be a suprise, as Pat told us a few years back that there would not be any positives in the TDF for some time to come. Frank might have crossed someone?

Back to Pat, though. I wonder if his comment could have been a code to potential sponsors to not worry about the negative publicity of a rider getting caught. Maybe he was implying that they would "take care of it" so as not to interupt the gravy train.

After observing how the UCI is trying to wrest control of the Armstrong case, I have even less confidence it them than before (is it possible to have less confidence than absolutly none ???)

 

[the big ring]

After observing how the UCI is trying to wrest control of the Armstrong case, I have even less confidence it them than before (is it possible to have less confidence than absolutly none ???)

I think it's called "disdain".