"another interesting piece I found on the UCI and president Pat McQuaid " Thread

[DirtyWorks]

I've been busy and haven't kept up on domestic issues. What sort of pressure is being applied to OBRA. They are one of the few totally rider relevant operations I've seen.

http://www.cxmagazine.com/usa-cycling-pressure-obra-independent-organizations-events-2011 USAC won't honor their end of the reciprocity deal.

http://www.cxmagazine.com/usa-cycling-responds-cyclocross-obra-aca-rules


USAC told ACA (Colorado's independent road federation) to join USAC or be put out of business. ACA had no choice but to become the Colorado regional USAC organization. Velonews wrote an awful article about it. The comments were better.

 

[Race Radio]

http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/2012/02/01/aigle-is-burning/
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Fat Pat is a fool

 

[Race Radio]

http://espn.go.com/espnw/athletes-l...appointment-breeds-new-energy-kathryn-bertine

Thought I would post here as well.

So the UCI accepts back dated TUE's from Armstrong and Brochard. They let Armstrong return to competition even though he had not been in the testing pool for 6 months. They ignore the chicken's 3 missed OCC and let him start the Tour, when 1 should have been a no start. The ignore Kim Anderson's lifetime ban......but they ruin a woman's dream because her Fed was two days late? Really?

McQuaid has a lifetime Olympic ban

 

[peterst6906]

I think we underestimate McQuaid.

He's clearly a unifying element in cycling as this is the only thread in the clinic where everyone agrees.

 

[nevada]

If he's this bad how come he's still in job ?

 

[Benotti69]

If he's this bad how come he's still in job ?

Because the UCI has so much corruption and dirt just waiting to boil over into the public domain that no one wanted to be president when it happened. Let McQuaid go down with the ship while others build a new one.

Do i believe that, not really, but i can hope!

 

[cprior]

Look what happened to Silvia Schenk within that boys-network-pool that even the smaller scale of a national federation is! And there are "just" government-subsidies involved, I reckon the money is tenfold on an Olympic scale -- with even bigger sharks in the pond.
They already filter out the idealists on the first level above club-niveau.

 

[DirtyWorks]

2009 Contador AAF Suppresed

Buried inside the CAS-Contador finding was a positive for clenbuterol at the 2009 Tour of the Basque Country which Contador won. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tour_of_the_Basque_Country

"a positive for CB in the Basque Country in 2009. It was unreported and is not included in any of the statistics, but apparently it occurred. {see paragraph 310}"

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=786349&postcount=1055

As mentioned below: False alarm. It was a meat supply positive. Not a cyclist.

 

[Benotti69]

Buried inside the CAS-Contador finding was a positive for clenbuterol at the 2009 Tour of the Basque Country which Contador won. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tour_of_the_Basque_Country

"a positive for CB in the Basque Country in 2009. It was unreported and is not included in any of the statistics, but apparently it occurred. {see paragraph 310}"

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=786349&postcount=1055

All credit goes to Publicus for doing the heavy lifting and reading the decision all the way through.

Well done Publicus.

Hey Pat, what happened there? Is that one lost in a former employee's desk somewhere? How many more positives are you hiding?

Only the ones that came with a brown envelope.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Buried inside the CAS-Contador finding was a positive for clenbuterol at the 2009 Tour of the Basque Country which Contador won. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tour_of_the_Basque_Country

"a positive for CB in the Basque Country in 2009. It was unreported and is not included in any of the statistics, but apparently it occurred. {see paragraph 310}"

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=786349&postcount=1055

All credit goes to Publicus for doing the heavy lifting and reading the decision all the way through.

Hey Pat, what happened there? Is that one lost in a former employee's desk somewhere? How many more positives are you hiding?

Careful - that 'positive' in the Basque country was a bovine positive, not a rider.

310 WADA refers to a letter from the Basque authorities dated 12 April 2011 in which it confirms that there were no positive cases of clenbuterol in 2010 in the Basque Country. However, Castellana Detectives uncovered evidence that there was in fact a positive test for clenbuterol in the Basque Region in late 2009 that was never reported in the official statistics or acknowledged by the Basque authorities in their letter to WADA. Such "official" statistics are therefore reliable only to the extent that the reporting is accurate and true. Here, it was not.

 

[Oldman]

Buried inside the CAS-Contador finding was a positive for clenbuterol at the 2009 Tour of the Basque Country which Contador won. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tour_of_the_Basque_Country

"a positive for CB in the Basque Country in 2009. It was unreported and is not included in any of the statistics, but apparently it occurred. {see paragraph 310}"

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=786349&postcount=1055

All credit goes to Publicus for doing the heavy lifting and reading the decision all the way through.

Hey Pat, what happened there? Is that one lost in a former employee's desk somewhere? How many more positives are you hiding?

That "positive" probably hadn't cleared Pat's um, err....accounting system. Yeah, that's the ticket.

 

[Race Radio]

http://cyclismas.com/2012/03/collaboration-dialogue-and-inclusion-are-not-in-the-uci-vocabulary/

Poor Pat, he is upset that anonymous people on twitter keep pointing out when he does something stupid.

The easy solution is to stop doing stupid things.....instead Pat chooses to write an email whining about it.

 

[Benotti69]

http://cyclismas.com/2012/03/collaboration-dialogue-and-inclusion-are-not-in-the-uci-vocabulary/

Poor Pat, he is upset that anonymous people on twitter keep pointing out when he does something stupid.

The easy solution is to stop doing stupid things.....instead Pat chooses to write an email whining about it.

He really wants to be dictator supreme for cycling doesn't he!

 

[Caruut]

Is JV the team owner he's replying to?

It's disgusting the way that personal financial interests control world sport in both football and cycling (the only two sports I know all that much about).

A world cup in Qatar, and a WorldTour race in China feeding straight into Pat McFraud's pocket? It's like Sepp and Pat are having a contest to see who can do the worst job of running their given sport before someone says enough is enough. They're constantly raising the stakes to see who can be the most corrupt and who can be the most generally incompetent.

Mafia bosses missed a trick when they turned to selling drugs and prostitutes. They should have just gone down the sports governing body route instead.

 

[MarkvW]

McQuaid is really selling the idea that the UCI has an unassailable lock on cycling and that a rival league is just something that could never possibly happen.

 

[Benotti69]

Is JV the team owner he's replying to?

It's disgusting the way that personal financial interests control world sport in both football and cycling (the only two sports I know all that much about).

A world cup in Qatar, and a WorldTour race in China feeding straight into Pat McFraud's pocket? It's like Sepp and Pat are having a contest to see who can do the worst job of running their given sport before someone says enough is enough. They're constantly raising the stakes to see who can be the most corrupt and who can be the most generally incompetent.

Mafia bosses missed a trick when they turned to selling drugs and prostitutes. They should have just gone down the sports governing body route instead.

Russian mafia went after FIFA hence they got the world cup.

 

[Caruut]

Russian mafia went after FIFA hence they got the world cup.

Dunno where you're from, but the BBC did a couple of documentaries on FIFA corruption in the month or so before that vote. A lot of the tabloid press here started saying it was very unpatriotic of them, and that we should have kept our mouths shut. Conveniently ignoring that people who conduct themselves like that are really not the kind of people you want to get into business with. I was really keen on having the WC until I saw the extras that came along with it. The bill wasn't such a problem, it was that FIFA require that countries pass laws freeing them from paying tax, restricting free speech, making certain advertising illegal.

I dread to think what Pat would do if cycling were big enough.

 

[Polish]

"nom de plume idiots" - hey thats funny lol.

But I agree that Pat needs to realize that there are "nom de plume idiots" on twitter no matter what sport you are in. Cycling is no different in that regard.
Lighten up Pat.

Although it is probably uncommon in the higher echelon sports to see team owners entering the fray on twitter. Maybe see it in MMA or RollerDerby grrrr.

 

[BotanyBay]

McQuaid is really selling the idea that the UCI has an unassailable lock on cycling and that a rival league is just something that could never possibly happen.

He's not selling. He's intimidating or, er, um, uh... intimating (yeah, that's the word I'm looking for... sorry, a product of the Californian education system here).

 

[DirtyWorks]

Lying liar who lies

This is stunning denial.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-disavows-uci-responsibility-in-armstrong-case

If guys are beating the system, they're beating WADA's system, they're beating the controls. The UCI can't do anything about that.

If I have this right, WADA recommends opening a case, the UCI is the one with the authority to open the case. And we now know thanks to the USADA letter, they don't.

The UCI has always been in the forefront in the fight against doping.

Their anti-doping record tells you all you need to know about their effectiveness.

Good for CN for asking the questions. If only other cycling media would step up.

 

[Benotti69]

This is stunning denial.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-disavows-uci-responsibility-in-armstrong-case

If guys are beating the system, they're beating WADA's system, they're beating the controls. The UCI can't do anything about that.

If I have this right, WADA recommends opening a case, the UCI is the one with the authority to open the case. And we now know thanks to the USADA letter, they don't.

The UCI has always been in the forefront in the fight against doping.

Their anti-doping record tells you all you need to know about their effectiveness.

Pity CN didn't go for the fat F***s jugular. He really needs to be gotten out of sport and probably society in general.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

This is stunning denial.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-disavows-uci-responsibility-in-armstrong-case

If guys are beating the system, they're beating WADA's system, they're beating the controls. The UCI can't do anything about that.

If I have this right, WADA recommends opening a case, the UCI is the one with the authority to open the case. And we now know thanks to the USADA letter, they don't.

The UCI has always been in the forefront in the fight against doping.

Their anti-doping record tells you all you need to know about their effectiveness.

Good for CN for asking the questions. If only other cycling media would step up.

Pat conveniently ignores that the UCI did not sign the WADA code until the last possible moment before the 04 Olympics.

The Lance UCI corruption part was in 2001.

 

[Oldman]

Pat conveniently ignores that the UCI did not sign the WADA code until the last possible moment before the 04 Olympics.

The Lance UCI corruption part was in 2001.

he then goes on to say (paraphrase)-"there has been a long culture of doping...that's starting to change.." or something to that affect. I presume he was on Mars looking to start a new Keirin league instead of being in the presence of that "culture".
What is telling is the distance he's trying to place between his actions and Lance's problem. It sounds like there could be a round of he said-she said coming up after USADA gets done with Lance and Pat is looking to be just an ignorant bystander.

 

[Caruut]

Let's not beat around the bush. The guy is as straight as a roundabout. Even in an arena as shady and mafia-like as the governance of sport, few are as arrogant or brazen as our Pat. Who the hell else has the nerve to actually set up a company that openly gets given contracts by a body they control? Even Sepp ****ing Blatter has the decency to set up shell companies to handle payments for crying out loud.

 

[DirtyWorks]

...The Lance UCI corruption part was in 2001.

It rolls into the comback era too. Presumably USADA is sitting on blood profiles that should have triggered a positive.

How many more longitudinal positives did McQuaid ignore? Another story that hasn't been written but is as clear as day after the USADA letters.