"another interesting piece I found on the UCI and president Pat McQuaid " Thread

[sniper]

The UCI is thoroughly corrupt. Always has been. That is why WADA was formed. No other sport governing body can claim anything like that example of self-indictment.

We focus a lot on the Lance relationship, but one of the best examples of corruption comes from Festina.

The Tour organizers banned riders Richard Virenque and Pascal Hervé from Festina, ONCE's Manolo Saiz and Dr. Nicolas Terrados, and the entire TVM-Farm Frites team.

But, the UCI stepped in, overruled the Tour organizers and forced them to accept Virenque's participation in the 1999 Tour. Virenque, of course, later admitted to doping in 1998.

From Wikipedia:

Race director Jean-Marie Leblanc banned Virenque from the 1999 Tour de France but was obliged to accept him after a ruling by the Union Cycliste Internationale.[19] Lichfield wrote in The Independent:

"The sport of road-race cycling (and it may not be the only one) is like an alcoholic, refusing to accept that it has a problem, as long as it drinks in secrecy. That fact was shamefully proved once again this week when the sport's governing body - the International Cycling Union (UCI) - forced the 1999 Tour to accept Richard Virenque... The baby-faced Virenque faces possible criminal charges of drug-taking and drug-trafficking. Despite his denials, French judicial investigators say they have documentary evidence that he has been doping himself for years. The Tour said last month that he was 'not welcome.' The UCI insisted on Tuesday that he must ride. The Tour gave way. So much for ethical purity."[15]

Cycling Weekly in Britain called it "a major blow" to the Tour's organisers.[22] Leblanc said he hoped Virenque would not win.

Dave.

good spot.
i don't remember this being brought up previously in the clinic in relation to UCI's corrupthood.

broadens the perspective.

 

[D-Queued]

good spot.
i don't remember this being brought up previously in the clinic in relation to UCI's corrupthood.

broadens the perspective.

A couple more related tidbits:

Wheels of Reform Seem at a Standstill : No Sprint to a Solution In Cycling's Drug Mess

1. Blame the police

More than two months after the Tour staggered to its finish in Paris with the stigma of what has become known as the Festina Affair — the world's top-ranked team expelled from the race because of systematic doping — Barthe's attitude is common among riders and officials. The French police and courts are still being blamed for their conduct in uncovering the affair, few riders have been disciplined, almost no sponsors have rebelled at the notoriety and, at the highest level of the sport, little appears to have been accomplished outside a few conferences and study groups.

2. Horner takes the 'laissez-faire' approach

"That's just part of professional sports now," Horner said of drugs, in a widely echoed view. "Every sport has some problems like that. You just have to deal with it, in one ear and out the other, and keep training and keep racing.

"It bothers you, of course, when your directeur is called in by the police, but what can you do? There's nothing you can do."

3. Verbruggen goes on vacation

The best is saved for the UCI:

"I love the UCI," one rider said mockingly. "They're all afraid of lawsuits. That's the main goal: Let's not get sued today."

Hein Verbruggen, president of the UCI, admitted as much this week when he tried to explain why his group had reduced by a month the eight-month suspensions given to three Swiss riders for Festina. The International Olympic Committee advocates a two-year suspension, Verbruggen noted. But "a ban for two years for a rider means a ban for life," he said, and such a sanction would almost certainly lead to costly legal battles.

Verbruggen made no friends among the riders when he continued to attend a UCI conference in Havana as the Festina Affair became public, then dropped in on the Tour briefly before spending the rest of July in India on vacation.

Nor did he impress anybody with his most Draconian ruling this autumn: He told Laurent Jalabert, the Frenchman who ranks first among the riders, that unless he apologized for describing the UCI as a dictatorship and its officials as half Draculas and half neo-Nazis, he could not ride in the world championships. Jalabert, who was weary at the end of the season and dubious about representing France, declined to retract his words.

Ok, so we know Ja Ja was/went bad, but threatening to ban him for what he said, but not for doping when he was implicated in Festina?

That is nuts, and underscores the capriciousness within UCI.

Dave.

 

[Benotti69]

<snip for brevity>

Verbruggen made no friends among the riders when he continued to attend a UCI conference in Havana as the Festina Affair became public, then dropped in on the Tour briefly before spending the rest of July in India on vacation.

It is quite incredible that the idiots who participate from riders up to team owners still accept the type of behaviour from Hein and now McQuaid.

How do they expect to be treated seriously when it is obvious that for McQuaid cycling is nothing than a personal money making scheme as it was for Hein?

Nor did he impress anybody with his most Draconian ruling this autumn: He told Laurent Jalabert, the Frenchman who ranks first among the riders, that unless he apologized for describing the UCI as a dictatorship and its officials as half Draculas and half neo-Nazis, he could not ride in the world championships. Jalabert, who was weary at the end of the season and dubious about representing France, declined to retract his words. [/I]

Ok, so we know Ja Ja was/went bad, but threatening to ban him for what he said, but not for doping when he was implicated in Festina?

That is nuts, and underscores the capriciousness within UCI.

Dave.

FUBAR!

 

[thehog]

It is quite incredible that the idiots who participate from riders up to team owners still accept the type of behaviour from Hein and now McQuaid.

How do they expect to be treated seriously when it is obvious that for McQuaid cycling is nothing than a personal money making scheme as it was for Hein?



FUBAR!

It also underlines why Wiggins and Sky are making statements about what a wonderful job the UCI are doing. Wiggins is firmly in the pocket of McQuaid. I can safely say no Sky rider will ever test positive ever.

 

[sniper]

Wiggins is firmly in the pocket of McQuaid. I can safely say no Sky rider will ever test positive ever.

that brings up the question: who's owning who? Pat Sky? or Sky Pat?
In the case of LA, we know LA owned Verbruggen, not the other way around.

I'm just theorizing here, and I don't have any hard evidence to back this up, but what if Pat is owned by Geert Leinders?
It would explain the zero positives at Rabo and now at Sky.

 

[Jack (6 ch)]

that brings up the question: who's owning who? Pat Sky? or Sky Pat?
In the case of LA, we know LA owned Verbruggen, not the other way around.

I'm just theorizing here, and I don't have any hard evidence to back this up, but what if Pat is owned by Geert Leinders?
It would explain the zero positives at Rabo and now at Sky.

The magic word is 'symbiotic'. Imagine a (one-way) conversation in 1999, or perhaps 2001:

'I can make your sport bigger than it's ever been. But call me out and I will destroy it for ever. Which do you think is better for you?'
UCI gained from Lance. Lance gained from UCI.

 

[DirtyWorks]

that brings up the question: who's owning who? Pat Sky? or Sky Pat?
In the case of LA, we know LA owned Verbruggen, not the other way around.

I'm just theorizing here, and I don't have any hard evidence to back this up, but what if Pat is owned by Geert Leinders?
It would explain the zero positives at Rabo and now at Sky.

What if Mr. Leinder's employer pays the vig to Pat and Pat keeps the AAF's away? What if Mr. Leinders pays the Pat directly? Payment stops and so does his rider's AAF insurance.

I don't know that anyone is afraid of the other. Basically anyone in a doping scam is doing something that gets them in trouble, so there's mutually assured destruction working for everyone.

It seems to me guys like Marti and Del Moral and now Leinders seem to operate at the team operations level, well below Pat's level.

 

[DirtyWorks]

The magic word is 'symbiotic'. Imagine a (one-way) conversation in 1999, or perhaps 2001:

'I can make your sport bigger than it's ever been. But call me out and I will destroy it for ever. Which do you think is better for you?'
UCI gained from Lance. Lance gained from UCI.

That would be Weisel talking, selling the U.S. as a growth market. Armstrong just isn't that smart, didn't have the money. Pat will take a meeting if you are bringing money to him.

 

[MacRoadie]

I don't know that anyone is afraid of the other.

They're not afraid of each other because the riders will always be the scapegoats (or maybe more precisely, the sacrificial lambs): sacrifice one and there are plenty more to replace him.

 

[poupou]

The only question that should expose McQuaid is:

" When will 2008 Giro samples be retested for CERA?"

 

[Cycle Chic]

'After the test event finished, Bettini came to me and he said it is not going to be as easy as people think,” he said. “It's very much like a Belgium classic. These are small roads, up and down.”

The UCI president acknowledged that a Cavendish win would be a very popular result for the Olympics, given that it is on home soil, but said that the course meant it wasn’t a given that things would work out that way. '

Another couple of faux pas by McQuaid.

 

[No_Balls]

What is the link between Sky and McQuaid? This is the most intresting these days.

 

[Oldman]

That would be Weisel talking, selling the U.S. as a growth market. Armstrong just isn't that smart, didn't have the money. Pat will take a meeting if you are bringing money to him.

Very much so. The buy in to be the franchise holder was probably viewed as pretty cheap by Weisel and Co. Wonder if he's had any sleepless nights reconsidering the investment?

 

[the big ring]

inring.com bringing badness again:

the Inner Ring ‏@inrng

OBS company behind broadcast is a cosy company with monopoly TV rights granted by IOC. Directors include ex-UCI boss Hein Verbruggen.

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/229280586014015489

Sounds like the IOC equivalent of UCI's GCP...

 

[DirtyWorks]

What is the link between Sky and McQuaid? This is the most intresting these days.

Money. If the money stops, then so does the goodwill at the UCI. The Olympic hangover starts in October, so the 2013 Sky budget will be much smaller. Which is why I'm looking forward to riders leaving Team Sky and their ensuing positives.

In the U.S. Olympic broadcast, they had a quick "media moment" of Pat introducing the Sky team to Prince Charles on the start line of the road race. Cha-Ching!

 

[Epicycle]

inring.com bringing badness again:




https://twitter.com/inrng/status/229280586014015489

Sounds like the IOC equivalent of UCI's GCP...

Hein's fingers are all over these games. His Sportaccord organization has provided the IOC and various Olympic stakeholders the platform to broker deals and does stuff like serving as a liason between individual federations, and probably the IOC, and WADA. Pretty nauseating:

http://www.sportaccord.com/en/services/index.php?idIndex=33&idContent=635

 

[sniper]

Hein's fingers are all over these games. His Sportaccord organization has provided the IOC and various Olympic stakeholders the platform to broker deals and does stuff like serving as a liason between individual federations, and probably the IOC, and WADA. Pretty nauseating:

http://www.sportaccord.com/en/services/index.php?idIndex=33&idContent=635

I'll be damned. The institute has Hein Verbruggen as its president and a section called "Doping Free Sport". Think I'm gonna throw up.

By the way, I cant find if or how Sportaccord are associated to WADA.
Seems they just put up WADA's logo on the website, but are not official partners.

 

[Epicycle]

I'll be damned. The institute has Hein Verbruggen as its president and a section called "Doping Free Sport". Think I'm gonna throw up.

By the way, I cant find if or how Sportaccord are associated to WADA.
Seems they just put up WADA's logo on the website, but are not official partners.

WADA has made use of the Sportaccord conferences to connect with it's signatories. Here's the WADA press release from the most recent conference:

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Media-Center/Play-True-News/WADA-activities-at-SportAccord/

The key word when it comes to Hein and Pat is expedience. They are going to go whichever way the wind blows, at least in public. But who knows what they are really doing behind closed doors because obviously the word "corruption" comes to mind too.

 

[sniper]

WADA has made use of the Sportaccord conferences to connect with it's signatories. Here's the WADA press release from the most recent conference:

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Media-Center/Play-True-News/WADA-activities-at-SportAccord/

The key word when it comes to Hein and Pat is expedience. They are going to go whichever way the wind blows, at least in public. But who knows what they are really doing behind closed doors because obviously the word "corruption" comes to mind too.

thanks!

ok, but at least WADA's independence seems not to be at stake here.

 

[DirtyWorks]

thanks!

ok, but at least WADA's independence seems not to be at stake here.

The IOC had no choice in making WADA fully independent. They were shamed into it. What they did was gave WADA no authority to pursue AAF's on their own. So the IOC sports can hide AAF's so world records can be broken every four years like clockwork.

FYI: AAF is a 'positive'

 

[sniper]

The IOC had no choice in making WADA fully independent. They were shamed into it. What they did was gave WADA no authority to pursue AAF's on their own. So the IOC sports can hide AAF's so world records can be broken every four years like clockwork.

FYI: AAF is a 'positive'

thanks.
I'm definitely getting the picture.

 

[the big ring]

Sounds like Lithuania are behind on UCI Fat Pat payments!?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/leleivyte-and-schleck-doping-cases-mean-lost-olympic-places

Lithuania's Rasa Leleivyte tested positive for EPO on June 12. The result was not announced until July 18, after Lithuania had named its
team for the Games, naming her as its sole representative. Leleivyte’s positive test meant that her country had no starter in the women's road race.

Frank Schleck's A sample is announced immediately - ignoring established due process. Rasa's takes 5 weeks to be announced. W.T.F.

 

[Cycle Chic]

and what about Marianne Vos WINKING at the slug Pat McQuaid..when he presented her with the gold medal.

 

[the big ring]

and what about Marianne Vos WINKING at the slug Pat McQuaid..when he presented her with the gold medal.

CN had an awesome, awesome photo of DiLuca and Pat McQuaid the year DiLuca won the Giro. I'll see if I can find it.

Would like to see a video of this wink. Is it on youtube yet?

 

[Cycle Chic]

if ever there was a legitimate use for phone hacking it would be Pat McQuaid's phone.

I saw the 'wink' on the bbc coverage.