"another interesting piece I found on the UCI and president Pat McQuaid " Thread

[Normandy]

Let's not beat around the bush. The guy is as straight as a roundabout. Even in an arena as shady and mafia-like as the governance of sport, few are as arrogant or brazen as our Pat. Who the hell else has the nerve to actually set up a company that openly gets given contracts by a body they control? Even Sepp ****ing Blatter has the decency to set up shell companies to handle payments for crying out loud.

is McQuaid Team GBs no one fan?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/david-millar-praised-by-pat-mcquaid-ahead-of-olympic-games

This together with this sickening article artilce yesterday

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pat-mcquaid-olympic-road-race-to-showcase-londons-iconic-sights

I wonder how much he is getting paid by Team GB/ Organisers of the Olympics. They must have given him a very nice hotel.

By the way, does anyone know who writes the cycling news aarticles? They never seem to have an author

 

[sniper]

Pity CN didn't go for the fat F***s jugular.

This.
it is about time CN throw off the strait friggin jacket and start putting some heat on the guy in their interviews.
a real pitty they again settle for a BS answer.

 

[Houndbike]

First I was like "is he talking to Armstrong?"


and then I was like "Is he talking about the UCI accepting bribery donations?"

Fantastically hypocritical from pat. What a sack of s***

 

[RichWalk]

The man is smptomatic of the 'disease' within modern cycling, I suspect, deep down he knows this and that his days are numbered....

 

[Benotti69]

is McQuaid Team GBs no one fan?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/david-millar-praised-by-pat-mcquaid-ahead-of-olympic-games

This together with this sickening article artilce yesterday

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pat-mcquaid-olympic-road-race-to-showcase-londons-iconic-sights

I wonder how much he is getting paid by Team GB/ Organisers of the Olympics. They must have given him a very nice hotel.

By the way, does anyone know who writes the cycling news aarticles? They never seem to have an author

Laura Weislo authored the one on McQuaid, but lots of the 'stories' are copy and paste jobs from else where or team press releases.

McQuaid is basically a bagman, as they would say in Ireland. A person who goes around with a bag collecting money for a cause, normally a dodgy one like a political party. Whether he is collecting solely for himself or Heiny is still in on the deals i doubt we will ever find out.

That he got cut from reaching IOC higher echelons seems to be an indication that they think some of the brown stuff hitting the fan in Austin Texas soon will land in McQuaid's lap.

 

[the big ring]

The fish rots from the head.

Old boy's club.

Gonna be a lot of work to fix. And if you create a new UCI-like entity with the same old boy's club characters, absolutely nothing will change.

I still think a thorough wikileaks type splurge from the filing cabinets and email repositories of IOC, UCI and the top 6 team headquarters should be done. Time to really blow the cobwebs out.

Landis should have been hacking UCI and not some lab somewhere...

 

[taiwan]

Pat conveniently ignores that the UCI did not sign the WADA code until the last possible moment before the 04 Olympics.

The Lance UCI corruption part was in 2001.

Good spot.

 

[Stueyy]

McQuaid needs to go as he's part of the problem now and if the UCI are serious about clean cycling they can't have this dill sprouting off his big mouth. I don't know if he's in Sky's or British Cycling's back pocket but his comments during and after the tour is an insult to everyone involved in cycling.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

This.
it is about time CN throw off the strait friggin jacket and start putting some heat on the guy in their interviews.
a real pitty they again settle for a BS answer.

I don't get this, do you think Pat is ever going to give an honest answer?

Here is the answer to every question:
The bad stuff that happened was a long time ago - now we have the Biological Passport so things are great now.

 

[AcademyCC]

What would need to happen for him to be replaced? is this at all likely?

 

[the big ring]

What would need to happen for him to be replaced? is this at all likely?

Explained rather well here: http://inrng.com/2011/03/how-to-replace-mcquaid/

Remember all those cyclists that come from Africa and Asia? They get a large chunk of the Presidential voting rights (16/42) between them. Oceania (ANZ + ???) are so small and insignificant they barely rate a mention. But then Europe - which I am guessing is Italy, France, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, Poland, etc, etc, get a grand total of 14 votes, so probably a similar number per individual nation as Oceania.

The weirdest breakdown of global cycling voting power I ever did see - happy to be totally schooled on the rightness of it all if someone can explain it to my myopic little brain.

Well the quick answer is that it’s near impossible. If you want to know more, read on. The President is elected by The Congress. This itself is a meeting of cycling officials from around the world. Under the UCI Constitution these officials appoint voting members, a total of 42 divided into regions as follows:
Africa 7 delegates
Asia 9 delegates
America 9 delegates
Europe 14 delegates
Oceania 3 delegates

These 42 are the ones who vote to install or dismiss the President. McQuaid was first elected in 2005, he was then re-elected in 2009. The next vote comes in 2013.

 

[the big ring]

African Federation countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederation_Africaine_de_Cyclisme

OCeania: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanian_Cycling_Confederation

I think America should have been listed as pan America, inclusive of many more countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederación_Panamericana_de_Ciclismo

 

[AcademyCC]

Explained rather well here: http://inrng.com/2011/03/how-to-replace-mcquaid/

Remember all those cyclists that come from Africa and Asia? They get a large chunk of the Presidential voting rights (16/42) between them. Oceania (ANZ + ???) are so small and insignificant they barely rate a mention. But then Europe - which I am guessing is Italy, France, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, Poland, etc, etc, get a grand total of 14 votes, so probably a similar number per individual nation as Oceania.

The weirdest breakdown of global cycling voting power I ever did see - happy to be totally schooled on the rightness of it all if someone can explain it to my myopic little brain.

Good work, thanks for that. Heartbreaking though. Would I be right in saying these smaller federations have been setup and funded by the UCI to globalize the sport? Basically they are in his back pocket? Reminds me slightly of the Coalition of the willing

 

[D-Queued]

Explained rather well here: http://inrng.com/2011/03/how-to-replace-mcquaid/

Remember all those cyclists that come from Africa and Asia? They get a large chunk of the Presidential voting rights (16/42) between them. Oceania (ANZ + ???) are so small and insignificant they barely rate a mention. But then Europe - which I am guessing is Italy, France, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, Poland, etc, etc, get a grand total of 14 votes, so probably a similar number per individual nation as Oceania.

The weirdest breakdown of global cycling voting power I ever did see - happy to be totally schooled on the rightness of it all if someone can explain it to my myopic little brain.

Well the quick answer is that it’s near impossible. If you want to know more, read on. The President is elected by The Congress. This itself is a meeting of cycling officials from around the world. Under the UCI Constitution these officials appoint voting members, a total of 42 divided into regions as follows:
Africa 7 delegates
Asia 9 delegates
America 9 delegates
Europe 14 delegates
Oceania 3 delegates

These 42 are the ones who vote to install or dismiss the President. McQuaid was first elected in 2005, he was then re-elected in 2009. The next vote comes in 2013.

If the UCI is anything like the IOC (or the current UN situation for that matter), there is probably a lot of 'influence peddling'. This is confirmed by the fact that McQuaid was hand-picked by Verdruggen in violation of the UCI's governance rules.

Point being that the golden rule applies - whoever has the most gold. Since Lance is about to lose his gold, McQuaid will be replaced by whoever Sky has in their pocket - unless that happens to be fat Pat.

Dave.

 

[sniper]

I don't get this, do you think Pat is ever going to give an honest answer?

Here is the answer to every question:
The bad stuff that happened was a long time ago - now we have the Biological Passport so things are great now.

ok, but i assume, if they wanted, they could put alot more sweat on Pat's forehead.
The recent (USADA-related) developments and infos would seem to justify CN's switching to a more Kimmage-style approach of interviewing.
Obviously, Pat can't diss or ignore CN the way he disses and ignores Kimmage.

Not that I see this happening, of course (the politics behind CN is something I know nothing about), but it would be interesting to see some some sweat coming off Pat's forehead.

 

[Benotti69]

ok, but i assume, if they wanted, they could put alot more sweat on Pat's forehead.
The recent (USADA-related) developments and infos would seem to justify CN's switching to a more Kimmage-style approach of interviewing.
Obviously, Pat can't diss or ignore CN the way he disses and ignores Kimmage.

Not that I see this happening, of course (the politics behind CN is something I know nothing about), but it would be interesting to see some some sweat coming off Pat's forehead.

CN is not going to put any heat on UCI. Too scared to have their media accreditation revoked.

The only people putting heat on UCI consistently are the small voices on twitter and forums such as the Clinic.

The McQuaid wont even share the same air time on the radio with Kimmage speaks loudly how scared he is of Kimmage's direct take no prisoners questions.

 

[D-Queued]

CN is not going to put any heat on UCI. Too scared to have their media accreditation revoked.

...

Access is important. However, I may be a lone voice, but I thought the CN journo had a lot of guts to even raise the subject. And a lot more courage to use the 'breathtaking corruption' quote in the very first question.

While true (i.e. the breathtaking corruption), that is a pretty harsh interview.

You cannot blame CN for Pat's dip and dodge. But, he was definitely put on the spot.

Dave.

 

[RichWalk]

Access is important. However, I may be a lone voice, but I thought the CN journo had a lot of guts to even raise the subject. And a lot more courage to use the 'breathtaking corruption' quote in the very first question.

While true (i.e. the breathtaking corruption), that is a pretty harsh interview.

You cannot blame CN for Pat's dip and dodge. But, he was definitely put on the spot.

Dave.

+1 McQuaids lack of opacity speaks volumes

 

[thehog]

Explained rather well here: http://inrng.com/2011/03/how-to-replace-mcquaid/

Remember all those cyclists that come from Africa and Asia? They get a large chunk of the Presidential voting rights (16/42) between them. Oceania (ANZ + ???) are so small and insignificant they barely rate a mention. But then Europe - which I am guessing is Italy, France, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, Poland, etc, etc, get a grand total of 14 votes, so probably a similar number per individual nation as Oceania.

The weirdest breakdown of global cycling voting power I ever did see - happy to be totally schooled on the rightness of it all if someone can explain it to my myopic little brain.

The other component is what Sylvia Schenk brought up prior to McQuaid being elected for the first time. Hein was holding conferences and providing UCI grants for facilities to the smaller nations you list in support for voting for McQuaid. She was adamant that UCI money shouldn’t be used as part of an election campaign to be voted. At the time McQuaid was also housed in an UCI apartment in Switzerland at the expense of the UCI even though he wasn’t president. The next election is secure also hence why you’ve seen so many races in Asia/China of late. The Canadian votes are wrapped up also.

This is why regardless what happens in the Armstrong case these guys are safe.

 

[BroDeal]

McQuaid will leave when he wants to leave and not before. All these sports federations are run the same. El Presidente secures his rule by granting favors to the small, insignificant countries in exchange for their support. The large countries that really matter to the sport are a minority.

The casebook example is motorsports when Max Mosley was caught on four hours of video in a Nazi themed sadomasochistic orgy with six hookers. This was made even worse because Mosley's father was the leader of the fascist party in England during the 30's and was a personal friend of Adolf Hitler. Mosley survived a confidence vote because all the small countries outside of europe supported him.

The only thing that might cause McQuaid to get tossed aside is a new pro league, which would threaten a large amount of the UCI's revenue.

 

[the big ring]

Good work, thanks for that. Heartbreaking though. Would I be right in saying these smaller federations have been setup and funded by the UCI to globalize the sport? Basically they are in his back pocket? Reminds me slightly of the Coalition of the willing

How handy to have a catch-cry "Globalising cycling". To the small federations receiving some funding (and my mind up until this week) it sounds like he's trying to get more people cycling.

The reality is this: get approval and support to run a race (hell you don't even need cyclists, good ol' Unca Pat can coerce and blackmail pros to turn up ) just as long as TV rights income is funneled into this "independent" GCP org over here that is all legit as it's supporting the UCI's mandate to "Globalise (televising) cycling".

I feel a little bit sick.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Here's a story from 2007 when cycling was cleaner than ever and on the right track in most countries according to Pat.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...ttacks-mafia-culture-of-euro-federations.html

Again, why the UCI seems to get away with not being painted as a thoroughly corrupt federation remains a mystery. Probably because they are no better than other Olympic federations like athletics...

Thanks for posting the link in another thread go to Dave.

 

[RichWalk]

Here's a story from 2007 when cycling was cleaner than ever and on the right track in most countries according to Pat.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...ttacks-mafia-culture-of-euro-federations.html

Again, why the UCI seems to get away with not being painted as a thoroughly corrupt federation remains a mystery. Probably because they are no better than other Olympic federations like athletics...

Thanks for posting the link in another thread go to Dave.

Largely I suspect because despite the tag of 'federation' they operate much the same as an business motivated monopoly; not hard to see why McQuaid was so vitriolic in his comments toward JV.

 

[D-Queued]

Here's a story from 2007 when cycling was cleaner than ever and on the right track in most countries according to Pat.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...ttacks-mafia-culture-of-euro-federations.html

Again, why the UCI seems to get away with not being painted as a thoroughly corrupt federation remains a mystery. Probably because they are no better than other Olympic federations like athletics...

Thanks for posting the link in another thread go to Dave.

The UCI is thoroughly corrupt. Always has been. That is why WADA was formed. No other sport governing body can claim anything like that example of self-indictment.

We focus a lot on the Lance relationship, but one of the best examples of corruption comes from Festina.

The Tour organizers banned riders Richard Virenque and Pascal Hervé from Festina, ONCE's Manolo Saiz and Dr. Nicolas Terrados, and the entire TVM-Farm Frites team.

But, the UCI stepped in, overruled the Tour organizers and forced them to accept Virenque's participation in the 1999 Tour. Virenque, of course, later admitted to doping in 1998.

From Wikipedia:

Race director Jean-Marie Leblanc banned Virenque from the 1999 Tour de France but was obliged to accept him after a ruling by the Union Cycliste Internationale.[19] Lichfield wrote in The Independent:

"The sport of road-race cycling (and it may not be the only one) is like an alcoholic, refusing to accept that it has a problem, as long as it drinks in secrecy. That fact was shamefully proved once again this week when the sport's governing body - the International Cycling Union (UCI) - forced the 1999 Tour to accept Richard Virenque... The baby-faced Virenque faces possible criminal charges of drug-taking and drug-trafficking. Despite his denials, French judicial investigators say they have documentary evidence that he has been doping himself for years. The Tour said last month that he was 'not welcome.' The UCI insisted on Tuesday that he must ride. The Tour gave way. So much for ethical purity."[15]

Cycling Weekly in Britain called it "a major blow" to the Tour's organisers.[22] Leblanc said he hoped Virenque would not win.

Dave.

 

[thehog]

The UCI is thoroughly corrupt. Always has been. That is why WADA was formed. No other sport governing body can claim anything like that example of self-indictment.

We focus a lot on the Lance relationship, but one of the best examples of corruption comes from Festina.

The Tour organizers banned riders Richard Virenque and Pascal Hervé from Festina, ONCE's Manolo Saiz and Dr. Nicolas Terrados, and the entire TVM-Farm Frites team.

But, the UCI stepped in, overruled the Tour organizers and forced them to accept Virenque's participation in the 1999 Tour. Virenque, of course, later admitted to doping in 1998.

From Wikipedia:

Race director Jean-Marie Leblanc banned Virenque from the 1999 Tour de France but was obliged to accept him after a ruling by the Union Cycliste Internationale.[19] Lichfield wrote in The Independent:

"The sport of road-race cycling (and it may not be the only one) is like an alcoholic, refusing to accept that it has a problem, as long as it drinks in secrecy. That fact was shamefully proved once again this week when the sport's governing body - the International Cycling Union (UCI) - forced the 1999 Tour to accept Richard Virenque... The baby-faced Virenque faces possible criminal charges of drug-taking and drug-trafficking. Despite his denials, French judicial investigators say they have documentary evidence that he has been doping himself for years. The Tour said last month that he was 'not welcome.' The UCI insisted on Tuesday that he must ride. The Tour gave way. So much for ethical purity."[15]

Cycling Weekly in Britain called it "a major blow" to the Tour's organisers.[22] Leblanc said he hoped Virenque would not win.

Dave.

The irony that Wiggins is commending the job the UCI are doing and then saying the likes of Virenque was responsible for those crazy mythical attacks at the Tour.