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frenchfry

frenchfry

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McQuaid on Newstalk radio today.

http://www.newstalk.ie/Ger-Gilroy-interviews-Pat-McQuaid
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Great interview, he didn't let McQuaid get away with anything. McQuaid really comes across as a slimy, double talking rat.

Maybe I am missing something, but McQuaid continually says that the UCI couldn't have done anything to prosecute Armstrong and has no powers to investigate and pursue doping accusations (except for the elusive "positive" test, and even then it is the national governing body that prosecutes), yet the UCI went to extraordinary lengths to wrestle jurisdiction from USADA - why did they want jurisdiction if they didn't have the means and power to do something? Maybe because that is exactly the point, they wanted to obtain jurisdiction so nothing would (could?) be done. Good thing they didn't get away with it.
 
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Wow, someone finally stuck it to Pat. That was brutal, I had to listen to it 3-4 times in amazement. Pat's about as slimy as it gets and he can weasel his way past most, but not this time
 
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Seems Pat hasn't learned anything. Instead of telling people what he proposes, he just belittles his opponent. Genius!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-attacks-half-baked-cookson-manifesto
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Whilst I have absolutely nothing but pure contempt for McQuaid, he has raised some good questions, even if he has done it in his usual ham-fisted manner.

I certainly don't think Cookson is going to be much better - I will be glad for change, but if we just end up with Pat Mk II, then even though it would be a slight improvement, that's about all it will be and I don't think that the changes in the sport that I desire will happen.

Is there any possibility that anyone else is going to throw their hat in the ring who would be a credible candidate?

The worst part about all this, is that it looks dire no matter who it is - if we end up with Plant's name forward, then we'd obviously have a lot of concerns. Makarov? Pah. Cookson? Not convinced in the least.

It certainly feels like it's going to end up one of those elections where you know both candidates are terrible, but you vote for the least terrible of the two. That's why I really hope someone else puts their name forward, though it's certainly looking less and less likely.
 
D-Queued

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UCI releases results of stakeholders consultation

Finally!!

UCI Releases Results of Stakeholders Consultation

Report found here.

It

Surprising:

"56% of the cycling family respondents described their relationship with the UCI as either 'good' or (36%) 'very good' (20%)"

Then again, the 'cycling family' is composed of 731 respondents (of a total of 6,369 respondents) that included 133 UCI WorldTour or Continental team riders. Obviously we know that some riders (e.g. one Lance Armstrong) have had an excellent relationship with the UCI.

Apparently those who only have a UCI license, but are not in the pro peloton or a UCI employee/Commissaire/National Federation member/Pro Team Employee of some kind, are not considered to be part of the family. But, you knew that already, didn't you? Congratulations, your license fee and 16+ hours/week of training qualifies you as "General Public".

Not Surprising:

The document is copy-protected, so you cannot cut and paste. This hinders freedom of dialog about the findings.

"Public perception of the UCI in certain areas is less positive. In particular, 72% of respondents rated the UCI's performance in fighting against doping as either 'poor' (22%) or 'very poor' (50%)."

72%?

Let's just call that unanimous.

Other interesting bits:

Helpline not helpful

"Only 35% of cycling family respondents believe the recently-introduced anti-doping helpline for professional riders to be an effective method to reduce doping."

Team anti-doping record and policy matters

"The anti-doping record and policy of teams, as well as a team's sporting performance in the previous season, were both seen as the key factors that should determine whether a team participates in the UCI WorldTour."

Dave.
 
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Swiss Cycling abandones Pat McQuaid

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...r-third-term-as-president-under-question.aspx

“After having carefully considered the arguments of the claimants in the arbitration brought against Swiss Cycling’s Decision of 13 May 2013 to nominate Mr. Pat McQuaid for UCI Presidential election, a majority of the Board’s member decided, in light of the legal issues regarding the validity of said Decision and of the general interest of Swiss Cycling, to (i) revoke the Decision of 13 May 2013 and (ii) to withdraw Swiss Cycling’s nomination of Mr. Pat McQuaid for (re)election as UCI President,”
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Surprised it took them so long, as long as these ridiculous nominations and changes to the process proposed by Thailand & Morocco are thrown out as they should be congratulations Mr Cookson you have some work to do.
 
Race Radio

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McQuaid should have talked to somebody at Swiss cycling before he opened his mouth

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“After having carefully considered the arguments of the claimants in the arbitration brought against Swiss Cycling’s Decision of 13 May 2013 to nominate Mr. Pat McQuaid for UCI Presidential election, a majority of the Board’s member decided, in light of the legal issues regarding the validity of said Decision and of the general interest of Swiss Cycling, to (i) revoke the Decision of 13 May 2013 and (ii) to withdraw Swiss Cycling’s nomination of Mr. Pat McQuaid for (re)election as UCI President,” it states.

“Swiss Cycling’s head of administration, Mr. Markus Pfisterer, has been instructed to communicate this decision of the Board of Swiss Cycling to the UCI and to seek a settlement with the claimants regarding the termination of the proceedings and the allocation of costs.”
 
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sniper

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Race Radio said:
“After having carefully considered the arguments of the claimants in the arbitration brought against Swiss Cycling’s Decision of 13 May 2013 to nominate Mr. Pat McQuaid for UCI Presidential election, a majority of the Board’s member decided, in light of the legal issues regarding the validity of said Decision and of the general interest of Swiss Cycling, to (i) revoke the Decision of 13 May 2013 and (ii) to withdraw Swiss Cycling’s nomination of Mr. Pat McQuaid for (re)election as UCI President,” it states.

“Swiss Cycling’s head of administration, Mr. Markus Pfisterer, has been instructed to communicate this decision of the Board of Swiss Cycling to the UCI and to seek a settlement with the claimants regarding the termination of the proceedings and the allocation of costs.”
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Tanx rr,
good to see the decision letter stressing the legal/formal objections against mqquaids nomination, rather than the lack of funds to go into court, as the main motivation for the decision.
 
red_flanders

red_flanders

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Race Radio said:
McQuaid should have talked to somebody at Swiss cycling before he opened his mouth

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It's great to see this happening, and thanks for sharing that. I hope he's ousted and I hope we get someone in his place who is meaningfully better and less compromised. I hope there is someone more interested in the long view and a real anti-doping strategy and implementation. I hope they value transparency over spin and meaningful change over a fluid morality that bends with the winds around them.

I fear that is not the culture within the UCI. I would love to be proven wrong.
 
D-Queued

D-Queued

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Benotti69 said:
That nobody bothered to tell him or McQuaid is lying agains speaks volumes.
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Or, simply shooting from the hip without checking facts...

Which may be splitting hairs, but that has been the consistent pattern with Pat.

Just make it up as you go along:

- Anglo-saxon countries don't dope.

- Doping is restricted to less than 1% of the peloton

- I (Pat) introduced the no needle policy

Maybe he is just senile - early onset memory loss/dementia.

Though personally I doubt it and would go with some form of sociopathy/lack of conscience or awareness of others. Not as bad as you-know-who, but a pretty good case.

Dave.
 
thehog

thehog

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D-Queued said:
Or, simply shooting from the hip without checking facts...

Which may be splitting hairs, but that has been the consistent pattern with Pat.

Just make it up as you go along:

- Anglo-saxon countries don't dope.

- Doping is restricted to less than 1% of the peloton

- I (Pat) introduced the no needle policy

Maybe he is just senile - early onset memory loss/dementia.

Though personally I doubt it and would go with some form of sociopathy/lack of conscience or awareness of others. Not as bad as you-know-who, but a pretty good case.

Dave.
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Sounds like a man who attention is elsewhere.
 
Benotti69

Benotti69

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thehog said:
Sounds like a man who attention is elsewhere.
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Off shore banking for his quick exit from Switzerland? or could he be running in and out to the shredding van outside the offices in Aigle?

He can hardly hold on to Pres of UCI now.
 
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