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Belokki said:let the era Contador nuthugers begin...![]()
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Belokki said:let the era Contador nuthugers begin...![]()
indurain666 said:Feel free to join, you seem to have some previous experience hugging A nut![]()
La Pandera said:WTF is that supposed to mean? I'm curious to hear your answer for this one.
this_is_edie said:that was a racist comment from SilentAssassin.
Belokki said:let the era Contador nuthugers begin...![]()
guncha said:with response to initial post:
About tdf 2007 - i agree that ras should have won in 2007. However, if someone else had done it a shadow of ras would follow him.
In 2008 contador paid a price when astana wasn't allowed to start. If he had started then sastre wouldn't be able to do anything to contador (see giro and vuelta wins of 2008).
Therefore, it was fair that contador arrived in tdf 2009 as one time champion. Contador won tdf 2009 in a dominant style and there was no question who was the best.
This year contador and andy would have had an equal time in mountains if there was no mechanical; or andy would have had a better time in mountains if his attack on bales succeeded. Contador was better in itt while andy was better on cobbles which would mean a gc win for andy if there was no mechanical.
However, tour shouldn't be decided on cobbles (it has never been so in tour's history). On the other hand, cobbles were on this year's route and everyone knew they are gc factor. If andy had won then everybody would call him a "cobbles" guy.
But anyway, my opinion is that mj shouldn't be attacked during mechanical problems and since everybody has race radios contador knew what has happened. With his attack contador sent a message that only a win by any means counts.
SilentAssassin said:It was over the top.
I'm glad that was cleared up but still, he did attack on a mechanical. A true champion would want to beat their opponent without a mechanical error, and if you read the article, there are quite a few more arguments to sort out...like the one about Contador not winning a stage in this 2010 win...some thing that all the truly great champions do.
Belokki said:let the era Contador nuthugers begin...![]()
El Pistolero said:No, let the era of Contador nutShuggers begin now.
guncha said:With response to initial post:
About TDF 2007 - I agree that Ras should have won in 2007. However, if someone else had done it a shadow of Ras would follow him.
In 2008 Contador paid a price when Astana wasn't allowed to start. If he had started then Sastre wouldn't be able to do anything to Contador (see Giro and Vuelta wins of 2008).
Therefore, it was fair that Contador arrived in TDF 2009 as one time champion. Contador won TDF 2009 in a dominant style and there was no question who was the best.
This year Contador and Andy would have had an equal time in mountains if there was no mechanical; or Andy would have had a better time in mountains if his attack on Bales succeeded. Contador was better in ITT while Andy was better on cobbles which would mean a GC win for Andy if there was no mechanical.
However, Tour shouldn't be decided on cobbles (it has never been so in Tour's history). On the other hand, cobbles were on this year's route and everyone knew they are GC factor. If Andy had won then everybody would call him a "cobbles" guy.
But anyway, my opinion is that MJ shouldn't be attacked during mechanical problems and since everybody has race radios Contador knew what has happened. With his attack Contador sent a message that only a win by any means counts.
Libertine Seguros said:The OP actually manages to imply that Contador's implied doping was why Astana weren't allowed to start the 2008 Tour, which shows what we're dealing with here. Contador's implied doping is Puerto, which would have made it either the '06 or '07 Tours he couldn't start if they were that bothered..
Scirea said:Alberto has 3 in a row, just to make it clear. If you don't start it doesn't count.
sagard said:Don't stoop to the level of this thread. Of course Sastre's win counts.
Alberto has show brilliance on the road and and incredible acumen with his brain.
By taking the MJ in Arcalis in '09, he never let the Lance monster get started. Accepting losing time this year in Stage 3 vs. stopping and hoping for a mechanical same time was clearly the right choice.
Not launching an idiotic attack and throwing his chain should be given proper credit as well.
La Pandera said:The attack wasn't idiotic, it was actually well timed and caught Contador off guard. Now the shifting foolishness, that was idiotic.
sagard said:Don't stoop to the level of this thread. Of course Sastre's win counts.
Alberto has show brilliance on the road and and incredible acumen with his brain.
By taking the MJ in Arcalis in '09, he never let the Lance monster get started. Accepting losing time this year in Stage 3 vs. stopping and hoping for a mechanical same time was clearly the right choice.
Not launching an idiotic attack and throwing his chain should be given proper credit as well.
Dekker_Tifosi said:Oh for god sake people
Lance is history, go cry over a river that Alberto not only won already 3 TDF's and is now almost halfway, but also won a Giro and Vuelta to boot, something dear Lance never tried or accomplished.
La Pandera said:IT. WASN'T. A. MECHANICAL.
It was a shifting error.
El Pistolero said:He didn't say Sastre's win didn't count... He said AC has won the last 3 Tours he participated in. It's not his fault that he wasn't allowed to start in the Tour of 2008(And I'm glad he didn't, and I bet Contador was glad as well at the end of the season)
SilentAssassin said:I'm just a reporter, reporting this eventI can take my car to the car wash and have Contador's family wash it for me..lol
derailleur said:You do realize the only reason Contador tried the 2008 Giro and Vuelta is that his entire team was banned from the 2008 Tour for doping.
Something he of course never engaged in. No sir. Nuh-uh. No way. Couldn't have. Never.
Moose McKnuckles said:Contador was new to the team. The reason Astana was banned was because of the previous year's scandal with Vino and Kash.
Contador won the other two GTs that year.![]()