Galic Ho said:
A prime example of the type of abnormal build in these football codes is one Sonny Bill Williams. He's been in the news lately. My God that boy grew when he went to France to play Union. He's a monster now. Looks lithe and athletic, but carries so much weight in terms of pure muscle. Just doesn't seem right.
Regarding the muscle movements. You meant a combo of eccentric and concentric movements. But I understood your point. These guys are getting specific isolated muscle groups beyond the size and scope one would expect if you were just hitting up the gym. One would expect an improvement via mandatory compound movements with normal resistance training. But these guys are getting the strength gains one gets from isolated exercises for specific muscle groups WITHOUT the massive bulking that traditionally occurs, ie; as you'd see in a body builder. Note body builders athletic ability is practically mute. They cannot run to save themselves. But these guys have the upper body physique and strength that says they shouldn't be able to run...but they do. Plus with the mass they now possess they hit like a truck on impact.
As for the trapezius, it along with the latissimus dorsi are hard to accentuate. They require specific gym work. Getting that classical V shape in guys, especially one that stands out takes a lot of work. It's what the Mr Olympia events of the 80s focused on. The era after Arnold. Still prominent today, but the legs and abs get a lot of focus too. Those guys are absurd in their proportions and total weight. You have to really bulk up...footie players are missing that component. They've got the strength without excess muscle mass, thus allowing them to still run. Basically they are running tanks on a football field.
you obviously got my point. thanks, cos the reply was to you. p'raps better suited to the pm tho.
when I said eccentric, or concentric, I was using the wrong terminology. I was thinking flexion/extension.
and the hip flexion, the "driver" muscles (hip flexor) and the abductor.
meant the outer "sweep" when 15 years back, rugby players would only get thighs this big from quats/deadlifts/legpresses, and they would work unilaterally against gravity pushing legs away (ex deadlift)
but now they have larger quads, and lithe shape, they look leaner, but skinner, but they are actually carrying more muscle on that leg.
james o'connor and chis yarran hav extraordinary development in the flexor and abductors. And a significant part WILL BE GENETIC. but still, NOT NORMAL. 20 years ago, quads with size would look chunky and unathletic. and not with refined muscle shape.
yes. the qualifier. like THASP (tennis steroid problem) one must realise that when the muscles are photographed or pictured, mid movement, when they are fire'ing, concentric explosive movements, they will look like horses' muscles mid flight.
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