Betsy Andreu Appreciation Society

[Anonymous]

His problem was with "Foodforthought", not you!

Dyslexics of the world UNTIE!!!

 

[pedaling squares]

...or probably not!...................

Very nicely put Doc. Sums up how many of us feel.

 

[Deagol]

I want my own bumper sticker

Dear Lance, please save me from your followers

 

[Digger]

I see, you're were naive fan who didn't know about doping in cycling, and when discoverd it, felt like a lover betrayed. Well you shouldn't feel that way. Armstrong was likely doping long before he got cancer, so this doesn't have a large part to do with anything. Changing his mental approach, his training and yes, weight lose, is what turned him into a GC champion. If you look at GC contenders across the board, they all have to lose a lot of weight if they want to win. This is not some myth dreamt up by a PR company - just look at all of these guys. Coming from a power based sport like triathon, it was always likely that Armstrong would not reach his full potential in pro-cycling until later than most. Maybe it's time you dropped this doping obsession, which inevitably leads you to become a spin merchant that plays on rumour and hearsay, and take a more balanced, wider approach.

Can you please provide evidence that Lance lost 'a lot of weight' like 'GC contenders across the board'? And what I mean here is I wold like figures of what he weighed before cancer and what he weighed come Tour de France time.

 

[Hugh Januss]

I see, you're were naive fan who didn't know about doping in cycling, and when discoverd it, felt like a lover betrayed. Well you shouldn't feel that way. Armstrong was likely doping long before he got cancer, so this doesn't have a large part to do with anything. Changing his mental approach, his training and yes, weight lose, is what turned him into a GC champion. If you look at GC contenders across the board, they all have to lose a lot of weight if they want to win. This is not some myth dreamt up by a PR company - just look at all of these guys. Coming from a power based sport like triathon, it was always likely that Armstrong would not reach his full potential in pro-cycling until later than most. Maybe it's time you dropped this doping obsession, which inevitably leads you to become a spin merchant that plays on rumour and hearsay, and take a more balanced, wider approach.

Eye kant qwiet tel whot eue ar tying tew sae.

 

[Race Radio]

Why do you always try to personalise it? Nobody called anybody a liar. The doctor just said it didn't happen. You say he wasn't in the room. By that definition you and Betsy are calling the doctor a liar. That's a terrible thing to do to this life saving professional.

You are Trolling.

The doctor himself said he was not in the room

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I see, you're were naive fan who didn't know about doping in cycling, and when discoverd it, felt like a lover betrayed. Well you shouldn't feel that way. Armstrong was likely doping long before he got cancer, so this doesn't have a large part to do with anything. Changing his mental approach, his training and yes, weight lose, is what turned him into a GC champion. If you look at GC contenders across the board, they all have to lose a lot of weight if they want to win. This is not some myth dreamt up by a PR company - just look at all of these guys. Coming from a power based sport like triathon, it was always likely that Armstrong would not reach his full potential in pro-cycling until later than most. Maybe it's time you dropped this doping obsession, which inevitably leads you to become a spin merchant that plays on rumour and hearsay, and take a more balanced, wider approach.

Actually - I had the fortune of a coach who had old cycling magazines going back to the 70's. At this point I learned there was doping in cycling.

Yes - you are correct that I was naive in the late 80's - but I got a fabulous education once EPO came on the scene.
I first heard of EPO in late 1990.

As for you final point - again PLEASE show me anywhere on this forum where I have made an error in reporting the facts!
Otherwise I will decline your invitation to drop my doping obsession.

 

[Digger]

Why do you always try to personalise it? Nobody called anybody a liar. The doctor just said it didn't happen. You say he wasn't in the room. By that definition you and Betsy are calling the doctor a liar. That's a terrible thing to do to this life saving professional.

Craig Nicholls wasn't in the room.
But what is interesting about what Nichols said, is that he would never consider asking a patient / athlete with cancer, if they had taken PEDs. Yet, Tim Herman (for BPC, that's Lance's lawyer), said that doctors at the hospital repeatedly asked him about PED usage.

 

[Race Radio]

That's a trolling response. Who would he say this too?

He said this in his affidavit

 

[workingclasshero]

That's a trolling response. Who would he say this too? Are you spinning it by saying he wasn't in the room because the conversation didn't happen? That's how these things can get twisted.

twisted

now you're just funny

jesus christ, i hope you're not this much of a knownothing stubborn girl in real life as well, i don't like it when people have no friends

 

[Hugh Januss]

The fact that his body shape completely changed and his face when almost gaunt. It was quite obvious. Triathletes are a lot bigger on the upper body.

His face went gaunt when the government started talking about perjury charges against Bonds and Clemens.

 

[Anonymous]

Don't feed the troll. He will go away and come back with another screen name, but at least this one will die. Just stop replying, its easy.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Craig Nicholls wasn't in the room.
But what is interesting about what Nichols said, is that he would never consider asking a patient / athlete with cancer, if they had taken PEDs. Yet, Tim Herman (for BPC, that's Lance's lawyer), said that doctors at the hospital repeatedly asked him about PED usage.

Those "other doctors" were spies hired by foodforthought.

 

[Digger]

The fact that his body shape completely changed and his face when almost gaunt. It was quite obvious. Triathletes are a lot bigger on the upper body.

So I can provide you with figures to say that the most he lost was 2 pounds. So I'll stick with the figures, you stick with the press releases from Lance and the anecdotal evidence from photographs.

 

[blackcat]

So I can provide you with figures to say that the most he lost was 2 pounds. So I'll stick with the figures, you stick with the press releases from Lance and the anecdotal evidence from photographs.

and twitter!

 

[Deagol]

Still hunting for that Lance fan he says he never doped, eh? Keep looking.

LOL

Suffice it to say that there were plenty of others on this forum before you arrived (unless, of course, they are all the same person using new names). Again, I will not fall in the trap of naming names but I will, however, go out on a limb here and say that every serious poster on this board (and possibly the moderators) would back me up.
You could decipher my obvious clues as to the identities of the 2 banned posters I mentioned, but you seem to be ignoring them. Here are 2 more clues: the 1st banned poster made a personal threat against a family member of a poster here and was banned.
The second one claimed to be from London, but his use of language and the timing of his posts showed that this was very likely a lie.
Do your homework, it’s piling up….

 

[Anonymous]

Don't feed the troll.

 

[blackcat]

How did he fake his change in appearance? Is Wiggins also faking it now? How can they get away with doing that? Does David Blane help them?

like to like. Lets see him in the same position he was sitting in Roubaix 2009, with his Beijing 2008 physique. Better yet, lets see him on the scales. They will know their weight to the nearest pound, but they are weaving a narrative for justifying results. See who the wikipedia link ISP is for altering his weight. The weight change came in early. I gotta doubt if Wiggins was 71 kg for the Giro.

 

[Anonymous]

His face went gaunt when the government started talking about perjury charges against Bonds and Clemens.

Those "other doctors" were spies hired by foodforthought.

Dude you are on form today!

 

[blackcat]

Never done the twitter thing actually, so maybe I have missed out. Must try to get hooked up with that. Everybody seems to be talking about it.

lol

don't believe it. You use your time on this forum, I assume you are a Paceline/Livestrong junkie.

Give you a little hint: when you offer such implausible replies, it hurts your credibility. The key for offering up noise and false intelligence, is to have strains of truth, so it is believable. Then you just alter a few key points, that suit your agenda. IE, like you said you believe Armstrong doped before the cancer. Good tactic. It buys credence and ingrates. Well done. Like Armstrong on the ESPN program "on the couch" or whatever it was, in 2005 post season or early 2006, he said "never used EPO, oh, hang on, that is not correct, I HAD to use it to save my life in cancer treatment". And admission, that was not an admission. Unctuous in extreme. Problem was, Armstrong contradicted the record, he had already gone on record with Walsh in 2000, saying he never had used EPO, and even stressed in his cancer treatment.

So moral: make it believable BPC.

BPC, we will get you there, it will be a slow task, but the makeover will work. You can then do effective false flags, Jeff Vader style.

 

[Race Radio]

Arbiter/BanProCycling does a great job of representing Livestrong Army. He should be allowed to Troll as much as he likes.

In the words of the great American Philosopher, Ted Nugent

"We need freedom of speech, otherwise it is harder to figure out who the idiots are"

 

[workingclasshero]

That guy was banned - that's not people using multiple names. From what I saw he didn't deny doping either. He made some very sensible points. And how do you know he doesn't work shifts or something? So many assumptions.

Lets face it, anti Armstrong posts outweight pro-Armstrong posts about 100 to 1. Anyone who pops the little bubble is termed a troll and is made out to not have a clue what is going on. You've created your own planet here of special people who are 'in the know', and anyone who doesn't agree must be insane.

your problem is you've shown yourself not to know what you're talking about.

and the reason people are calling you a troll is coz when things/facts are pointed out to you, you choose to ignore this.

btw wtf are you doing reading the clinic anyway? and if you head over to where you belong, the naive/general forum, you'll see there are plenty other lance cócksuckers on here. you should join them. or are they your rivals?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Much of your "facts" are based on disputed hearsay, therefore they are not "facts" in the traditional sense of the word. You believe all the most extreme anti Armstrong hearsay and rumour are "facts". That's your right, but don't pretend you have some special access to the truth that nobody else does. I fear you tread into that territory when you hang around with this crowd.

Again - it really is very simple - if I have reported anything wrong please point it out - instead of coming up with your theories on my motives.

Also - what I have quoted is from the transcripts - that is not hearsay or rumour.

I have never pretended to have any inside information - I have always tried to source my material that is available online.

 

[workingclasshero]

Arbiter/BanProCycling does a great job of representing Livestrong Army. He should be allowed to Troll as much as he likes.

In the words of the great American Philosopher, Ted Nugent

"We need freedom of speech, otherwise it is harder to figure out who the idiots are"

nice one, i'll keep that in mind, as people like him make it harder to believe in freedom of speech.

 

[Anonymous]

Arbiter/BanProCycling does a great job of representing Livestrong Army. He should be allowed to Troll as much as he likes.

In the words of the great American Philosopher, Ted Nugent
"We need freedom of speech, otherwise it is harder to figure out who the idiots are"

OMG!! Now that's funny!

You guys are killing me!