I guess fabian Cancellara winning the tour de suisse and tirreno adriatico makes him a stage racer
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El Pistolero said:Hushovd > Boonen
El Pistolero said:Boonen is past it. Hushovd was better in the classics this year. Boonen crashes in every race he enters.
Gent Wevelgem, give me a break. What a joke of a race. Cavendish would of won that this year if he didn't crash.Michielveedeebee said:No way Hushovd is better during the Classics, never been never will be.
I agree when we're talking TdF
BS, 4th in Flanders - Nowhere in Flanders
Win in Gent-Wevelgem - Dunno
Crashed out of PR - Played the stupidest, most cowardice game in a classic ever.
auscyclefan94 said:Pinotti is a time trial specialist. Don't give me the crap that he is a stage racer.
Tejay is 22 and I would still say that head to head he is better than Tony.
I'll give you Chavanel over GVA in cobbled classics. As a ardennes/hilly classics rider I'd still take GVA with his punchyness.
auscyclefan94 said:A lot of those results were down to Time trial results. tirreno is just a classics rider stage race. Same with romandie. marco can climb but I still wouldn't call him a stage racer. Tony got 2nd at romandoe for guess what. A TIME TRIAL!!!!
auscyclefan94 said:Gent Wevelgem, give me a break. What a joke of a race. Cavendish would of won that this year if he didn't crash.
auscyclefan94 said:I guess fabian Cancellara winning the tour de suisse and tirreno adriatico makes him a stage racer
auscyclefan94 said:Precisely.
auscyclefan94 said:Ahh, so it is other peoples faults that you have an opinion about a team? Unbelievable...
auscyclefan94 said:Van Avermaet > Chavanel - Depends what you look at. I'd say Greg is a better classics rider and Sylvain gets a lot of his results from breakaways.
Van Garderen can climb. Martin can't. Teejay is a far better all round rider. Van Garderen > Martin.
Leipheimer and Pinotti are completely different riders. I'd agree with you on Boonen and Hushovd. Velits bros? Give me a break... He'll need to a bit more before he proves himself and anyway, blind freddy can see Cadel is better than them.
Even then, you still forgot Cadel & Phil. Keep the hate coming.
Michielveedeebee said:http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=17398
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you were saying ?
Not in TT'ing, not by a long shot. He'll be a better climber though. in a couple of years. But right now, Tony wins
Most of his good results come from the GC of stage races. Looks like a stage racer to me.auscyclefan94 said:Time trialling decided just about everyone of those stage races you listed. Marco is a decent climber and a very ood tt rider but he isn't a stage racer.
auscyclefan94 said:Time trialling decided just about everyone of those stage races you listed. Marco is a decent climber and a very ood tt rider but he isn't a stage racer.
auscyclefan94 said:At the conclusion of the Ronde, the 3 who got away in the finale were not the strongest. Ballan & Gilbert were. Chavanel got his yellow jerseys from breakaways. Nothing wrong with that but he often gets results from breaks and not against the big boys. Greg often in the classics or the stages races dukes it out head to head with the other big riders.
Michielveedeebee said:Same reason why Evans won it as well
Timmy-loves-Rabo said:like i said dislike them more. didn't say i ever liked them. yawn.
yes. Nor do they have any riders i like. Maybe GVA and now hushovd. But ridicilious hype and crap posted regarding bmc made them worse.
I don't suggest it is sound logic, but it is what i feel.
still probably better logic they overrating every single cyclist because they ride on the same team as some gremelin i have an obsession with.
no was is gva better then chavanel. no way.
only decent result gva almost got in the classics season was from a breakaway in lbl. SImilar to chav, in a harder race, who still managed to get 2nd place after everything. For me the ride of the season.
Also Martin is just about the best ttr in the world, tjvg is hardly one of the best climbers. so that again is stupid. Even if he is a sub-par climber he still won pn.
velits has a podium on a GT. pretty good.
and lol, bottle may not be the most popular guy, but different riders or not he is so far ahead of pinotti, who grantyed might do an excellent top 20 in the giro next year
Boonen and Hush are probably close atm. I dunno.. Boonen can be better i am certain.
auscyclefan94 said:Gent Wevelgem, give me a break. What a joke of a race. Cavendish would of won that this year if he didn't crash.
auscyclefan94 said:Time trialling decided just about everyone of those stage races you listed. Marco is a decent climber and a very ood tt rider but he isn't a stage racer.
auscyclefan94 said:I'm making a thread on this because this thread topic has gone way off what it is suppose to be about.
Michielveedeebee said:it's a classic nonetheless. Thor doesn't even have one of them