BMC Soigneur caught with 195 does of EPO

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BMC has to be excluded!!!!!!!!!!
This day 5 years ago they excluded Ullrich and Baso on very few solid proof.
 
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Tuarts said:
From what I can get from google translate, the original article only links Evans and GVA by saying "BMC team of Evans & GVA". How does this, or the fact it happened in 2009 = Cadel has doped! It seems to be a mighty big leap, even for people in the media.
Well he was indeed working for the team after the incident, even 2011, at least part time, so he still has links with the current riders. Who? I don't know.
 
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dlwssonic said:
is there any chance of bmc not being allowed to ride the tdf.
I really doubt it. Not based on this evidence. We are on the speculation stage. Unless they find code names in relation with their dogs.
 
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Race Radio said:
Humm, let me guess. When Och was asked to comment he said "Blah, Blah, Blah" and "ahh Shucks"

It's a set up by Outside Magazine.

Seriously, who isn't tainted from Och's generation?
 
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How much would 195 doses cost? Is the amount something that a part-time worker could afford. Isn't the saying "follow the money"
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
I don't know if it has been mentioned, but the guy is also an elite cyclist without a contract.
Hush, people round here need to keep things simple and the jump to the conclusion rapid.
 
Aug 13, 2009
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No excuses for BMC.

Och hired Freddy Viaene as BMC's Head Soigneur. Everyone in the sport knows his history, personal Soigneur for Lance then Floyd. Anyone surprised Freddie hired a dealer? Of course not.

The "I do not know" excuse is a bunch of BS. In this day teams HAVE to know who is on their staff. Their supposed lack of knowledge shows they do not care
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
I don't know if it has been mentioned, but the guy is also an elite cyclist without a contract.
Yeah but if the EPO was actually for his personal use as a rider he would never have confesed. If he did it so easily, there must be something bigger underneath. This is what scholars call Maslow's hyerarchy of excuses.

(Only half-kidding)
 
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Race Radio said:
No excuses for BMC.

Och hired Freddy Viaene as BMC's Head Soigneur. Everyone in the sport knows his history, personal Soigneur for Lance then Floyd. Anyone surprised Freddie hired a dealer? Of course not.

The "I do not know" excuse is a bunch of BS. In this day teams HAVE to know who is on their staff. Their supposed lack of knowledge shows they do not care

But its the cycling way. Remember that Riis had 'no idea' that Basso or Hamilton were working with Fuentes when they were on his team.

Och thinks that the english language media is so stupid that they will take his answer at face value. The sad part is that he is probably right.
 
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This is just getting old.
I say throw them all out, every known doper should not be allowed to ride or work for or be associated with any Pro team. Dopers should be banned for life from any participation whatsoever. Hear me Bjarne? Och? Vino? Basso? and the list goes on and on.

Anyone associated with the team caught with PEDS implicates the whole team.

Until the pathetic UCI actually starts to care, this will never end.

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The relaunching his cycling career is a downright bull****. his facebook photo is a topless shot and his physique is more in liking with a bulky triathlete than a cyclist.
 
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Mrs John Murphy said:
But its the cycling way. Remember that Riis had 'no idea' that Basso or Hamilton were working with Fuentes when they were on his team.

Och thinks that the english language media is so stupid that they will take his answer at face value. The sad part is that he is probably right.

Och has the "awe shucks" stuff down pat. If any Belgie DS spewed the crap he did the press would be all over him
 
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To be honest, I don't get one small thing, why in one case the public learns of illicit activities 18+ months after they occur while for Vansevenant it took only a couple of weeks?

Maybe Vansevenant is an amateur and the doping is really to fight the onset of middle age or maybe he already told the police everything he knows but the time-line is still intriguing.
 
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Bavarianrider said:
BMC has to be excluded!!!!!!!!!!
This day 5 years ago they excluded Ullrich and Baso on very few solid proof.

Post of the day.

BMC can't ride.

But Contador is free to?

Off the bike, this sport is such a joke.
 
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roundabout said:
To be honest, I don't get one small thing, why in one case the public learns of illicit activities 18+ months after they occur while for Vansevenant it took only a couple of weeks?

Maybe Vansevenant is an amateur and the doping is really to fight the onset of middle age or maybe he already told the police everything he knows but the time-line is still intriguing.

When the police seized the shipment they could not figure out who the actual end recipient was. It was only recently that they figured out it was Sven's wife. They raided his house Monday, found syringes and needles and arrested him. He has been sitting in jail since.

In the days of micro dosing the idea that 195 doses of EPO were for "Personal use" is absurd.
 
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I wonder if Taylor Phinney is regretting his decision not to go with the squeaky-clean Radio Shack squad. Having to choose between Bruyneel and Och. What a choice.
 
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Good gosh! I look at the posts when I get up and look what I've missed! :eek:
All I needed to see was RaceR and TexPat and I knew something was going to bloom today.

Och says "I don't know any Sven.." blahblahblah...
sheesh

both guys caught redhanded in the last couple of days say the s*** is for their own use......right!
 
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Race Radio said:
When the police seized the shipment they could not figure out who the actual end recipient was. It was only recently that they figured out it was Sven's wife. They raided his house Monday, found syringes and needles and arrested him. He has been sitting in jail since.

In the days of micro dosing the idea that 195 doses of EPO were for "Personal use" is absurd.

Hopefully they could compel him to provide a blood sample. His pictures suggest someone that could use EPO to get up a flight of stairs.