BMC Soigneur caught with 195 does of EPO

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As an amateur racer, it's very possible that he was the local connection for epo.

One other thing that puzzles me is why BMC would have anything to do with this guy, if they knew about the epo thing? (unless they were the end users)

In order to find the truth, they should sit this guy down and tell him that if he keeps his mouth shut about the source of the money and the end users, it will be 5 years. If he talks, he'll be out in 2-1/2 years.
 
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mewmewmew13 said:
It is so true that BMC has been thrust into an even more shady-looking stance by the drivel that came out of Och's and GVA's mouths today with regard to their knowledge of SvenS.

The more I think about what Och said the madder I get. He is so used to getting away with !!! and someone needs to call him on this finally. Think about his comments over the past months w/r to Ballan and S and the doping investigation, then this...

Total loser no spine

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His day is coming. No doubt about that. Och, if you happen to be reading this, you are one of the biggest pieces of sh** that was ever respected and empowered by USA Cycling. Enjoy your last ever TDF.
 

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BotanyBay said:
Official UCI position:

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"Remain calm. All is well!"

And the Official CN Clinic response:

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"That's a fair cop"
 
May 26, 2009
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Polish said:
"Baghdad Bob" was pretty adamant that there were no WMDs.
Seemed to taunt and joke that there were no WMDs.
In hindsight, many people now agree that Baghdad Bob was correct.


Along similiar lines, I can see the link between Cadel and Sven ultimately disproven.
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Well played sir, well played :D
 
May 27, 2010
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Susan Westemeyer said:
The BMC statement:


Santa Rosa, California

BMC Racing Team Statement: Sven Schoutteten

The BMC Racing Team is taking immediate action to investigate what involvement Sven
Schoutteten might have had with riders and staff during his interaction with the
team. Schoutteten is alleged to be part of a doping investigation in Belgium that
stems from 2009, before the BMC Racing Team was even acquainted with him.

Internal Investigation
"This is very disturbing news," BMC Racing Team President/General Manager Jim
Ochowicz said. "Although he was only picked up to work when we didn't have enough
regular therapists to support the races (he worked two days this year and 13 in
2010), we want to make sure his interaction with our team was nothing out of the
ordinary. We do not believe there were any improprieties happening during his time
with the team, but we want to make sure. He was not scheduled to be at this year's
Tour de France, of course."

Best regards,
BMC Racing Team

Ok, I believe him.

Dr. Maserati said:
If I am reading Jim the 'Blah, Blah Blacksheep' correctly he is saying that Sven S. was only a part time drug courier for the team, not one of their full time couriers.

Mrs John Murphy said:
*brush brush brush*
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There are no dopers in BMC.
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You guys are haters. Haters, I tell you.

TeamSkyFans said:
they originally intercepted epo in late 2009
they then arrested him earlier this week and searched his house and found more needles and syringes.

Assumedly they have spent 18 months watching what hes up to.

its all in the articles.

Ok I was believing Och, except, maybe, for that part?

Perhaps Och can enlighten us as to what these were doing in his possession?

The guy is a peloton souvenir collector? These are just a few items from the good old days? You know, when there was as much as 2% doping in the peloton.

Perhaps the police found them on the shelf beside his Campy Super Record derailleurs and some Campy delta brakes?

Polish's picture on the Clinic reaction barely scratches the surface, and this icon is TOO small for how this all looks --> :rolleyes:

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Ingenerius said:
Well, its obvious at least from the second picture that the guy is full of roids himself, so he does have some extent of personal use.

Your right, he looks just like Kayle Leogrande.
 
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Perhaps Och can enlighten us as to what these were doing in his possession?

thought the world was ending last week and it would be painful, so he took his bike down to Costco, and put in a morphine order
 
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well at least the needles can be explained if he says he was a user... but it all looks a bit to suspicious for self user (quantity)

what surprises me is, he obviously knew about the drugs being seized in 2009 as he wouldn't have them any longer. the risks involved with still having a stash of needles is huge. That adds more weight to the theory he was a dealer. Why else risk jail unless there was a big payoff?
 

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Kender said:
well at least the needles can be explained if he says he was a user... but it all looks a bit to suspicious for self user (quantity)

what surprises me is, he obviously knew about the drugs being seized in 2009 as he wouldn't have them any longer. the risks involved with still having a stash of needles is huge. That adds more weight to the theory he was a dealer. Why else risk jail unless there was a big payoff?

Who knows how long he has had those needles.
Since 2009 also?
Slow moving inventory in a "no-needle" environment?

D-Queued said:
Perhaps Och can enlighten us as to what these were doing in his possession?
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What were Sven's plans for July?
Maybe do some non-TdF PED dealing while the Pro's were off racing the in France?

Maybe bring the PEDs and needles from his house to the TdF?
Maybe Och knew Svens plans, maybe not.

Now if the needles were found in France during the TdF, instead of at the dealers house, that would be a bit more incriminating don't you think?
 
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Seems our part-timer also worked with the USA U23 team in Europe in 2010. Of course, USA Cycling is blaming "the Belgians".

From velosnooze:

Miller was hesitant to talk about Schoutteten, who he said he did not know and hired based on a recommendation from “the Belgians.”

“He was just a substitute fill-in,” said Miller. “Sometimes when you’re running double junior programs and double, triple U23 programs, you get a guy like that. For us, we had no idea; we picked him on a recommendation from the Belgians.”

Miller said that with the current accusations leveled against Schoutteten, he would not work with the team again.
 
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Polish said:
Who knows how long he has had those needles.
Since 2009 also?
Slow moving inventory in a "no-needle" environment?

The no needle policy wasn't brought i until this year so dont try tell me he's had those needles since 2009.
 
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Polish said:
Who knows how long he has had those needles.
Since 2009 also?
Slow moving inventory in a "no-needle" environment?



What were Sven's plans for July?
Maybe do some non-TdF PED dealing while the Pro's were off racing the in France?

Maybe bring the PEDs and needles from his house to the TdF?
Maybe Och knew Svens plans, maybe not.

Now if the needles were found in France during the TdF, instead of at the dealers house, that would be a bit more incriminating don't you think?
Back-up stock for a quick-over-the-border resupply mission? Or, stocking up for the 2012 Tour start in Liege?

Then again, in the land of Pot Belge and some great classics, when wouldn't needles be incrimating?

The no needle environment means that you need stashes of needles everywhere.

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Kender said:
well at least the needles can be explained if he says he was a user... but it all looks a bit to suspicious for self user (quantity)

what surprises me is, he obviously knew about the drugs being seized in 2009 as he wouldn't have them any longer. the risks involved with still having a stash of needles is huge. That adds more weight to the theory he was a dealer. Why else risk jail unless there was a big payoff?

That much Epo costs some buck$ so it might have been part of a regular order and he'd still need the syringes.
Did anyone else suggest this fat dork might throw in some weight-loss Clen to make his self-use excuse fly?
 
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This guy Sven is LISTED ON THEIR GODAMN website! What an F up by BMC.

They need to remove him from the staff list immediately.

They do not dope with the epo, its used via IV drip to raise rectics (baby red cells) to normal levels while autologously transfusing bags of blood during Grand Tours.
 
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BigBoat said:
This guy Sven is LISTED ON THEIR GODAMN website! What an F up by BMC.

They need to remove him from the staff list immediately.

They do not dope with the epo, its used via IV drip to raise rectics (baby red cells) to normal levels while autologously transfusing bags of blood during Grand Tours.

Yeah... that's sorta the definition of 'doping'...
 
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It will be interesting to see if Sven's name is mysteriously missing from the website come tomorrow. Bet BMC are thinking of some backtracking and evasive gymnastics right now, as they are certainly busy 'investigating' this guy's involvement.
 
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Not only that, but with Mr. S's documented involvement in USAC projects, things could really start to get even better. Although, maybe not for the Weisel crowd et al...
 
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lelangue

Lelangue needs to follow race radio on twitter if that was really the first he had heard of it.
 
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Mrs John Murphy said:
*brush brush brush*

Cadel lift up that carpet for me.

Och's PR advisor has also given a press conference

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There are no dopers in BMC.

Remember Och, just keep on saying 'Aww shucks' like Wilbur Young (does that make Rihs Mr Ed?) and the media will buy it hook line and sinker.

Remember folksy guys are never bad guys.:rolleyes:

I'm not sure that photo is appropriate. Even though most of the world knows that it turned out that Iraq really didn't have any "WMD's", at least some of the neo-con con-job still seems to be sticking...:cool: