Brits don't dope?

[sniper]

Probably not worth a thread of its own, I came across an old article regarding Michele Verroken's sacking from Drug-free Sport.

She was a driving force for transparency in the fight against doping in the UK.

She was summarily sacked without explanation in early 2004, the main points are in this article:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/drugsinsport/2386709/Verroken-refuses-to-go-quietly.html

I've read rumours that it may have been linked to Rio's failed drug, it was also about 18 months before London won the Olympic bid, it may be she was just doing the job too well for the vested interests or there may have been a legitimate reason (not holding my breath on that).

Anyone have any better info as to what actually happened?

indeed very interesting.
Very telling.
Mirrors what we see in other countries, e.g. germany where the government recently interfered to make sure that a damning report on doping would not get published.

 

[blackcat]

indeed very interesting.
Very telling.
Mirrors what we see in other countries, e.g. germany where the government recently interfered to make sure that a damning report on doping would not get published.

and Puerto swept under the rug 'cept for the usefil village idjits the cyclists.

 

[ralphbert]

Kiwis don't dope. Poms and ausy's are terrible cheats tho.

 

[ralphbert]

Oh and South Africans.

 

[blackcat]

stiffupperlip gordonstoun chariots of fire muscular christianity ftw pure no dope

 

[elduggo]

all the best to Mo (TUE) Farah in the marathon today.

 

[Justinr]

maybe i'm a little back on info but UK didn't even had a proper constitution few years ago.

they seem to pedal much on tradition and trust

which ofc is stupid and with rules like the quoted above no wonder brits never test positive

Well it is true but posters really should quote the full text of that section:

The requirements vary depending on the level of the athlete. For advice on determining whether, and when, a TUE is required, use the guidance form When to apply for a TUE.

An athlete not required to apply for a TUE prior to competition can make a retrospective TUE application to UK Anti-Doping. This must be no later than ten working days following sample collection.

Even if an athlete is eligible to apply for a retrospective TUE, checks should be made with the prescribing physician that the criteria and medical evidence needed by the Therapeutic Use Exemption Committee (TUEC) can be met before the athlete uses any prohibited substance or method.


Kind of gives a slightly different slant on it don't you think ...

 

[blackcat]

Lance shoulda got a TUE for Yellow Rose

 

[bobbins]

Uk sport hang the odd sacrificial lamb but aren't interested in catching any big fish.

 

[Freddythefrog]

Not Sky and the Sir Dave thread is closed

Sutton left to run the show at BC.

Taylor left Cloughie to do it on his own because Taylor thought he could. This is a case of Sir Dave leaving Sutton to do it on his own because Shane thought he could. "So you think you can get by without me Shane do you. Well let's just give that a go."

Best thing that could have happened. Sky will be stable. British Cycling with Sutton in charge. As the eloquent poster put it a few years ago when Floyd wrote us his letter - I am going to pull up a chair and a case of beer. This is going to be one to watch.

 

[Nathan12]

Sutton left to run the show at BC.

Taylor left Cloughie to do it on his own because Taylor thought he could. This is a case of Sir Dave leaving Sutton to do it on his own because Shane thought he could. "So you think you can get by without me Shane do you. Well let's just give that a go."

Best thing that could have happened. Sky will be stable. British Cycling with Sutton in charge. As the eloquent poster put it a few years ago when Floyd wrote us his letter - I am going to pull up a chair and a case of beer. This is going to be one to watch.

I find it almost unbelievable that they'd leave Sutton in charge, given the ghosts in his past. But there you go.

 

[Justinr]

I find it almost unbelievable that they'd leave Sutton in charge, given the ghosts in his past. But there you go.

Links to these ghosts please ...

 

[orbeas]

Brits dont dope

Mr Sutton signed the Team Sky letter saying he never had anything to do with doping during his entire cycling career.
He also told the Mail on Sunday that he 'had been tested 100's of times and never failed a dope test'
100 % Mr Clean

thats why BC still employ him..

and his ghosts are still hidden in the closet !!!

There was a seperate Shane Sutton Thread on CN

 

[Justinr]

Mr Sutton signed the Team Sky letter saying he never had anything to do with doping during his entire cycling career.
He also told the Mail on Sunday that he 'had been tested 100's of times and never failed a dope test'
100 % Mr Clean

thats why BC still employ him..

and his ghosts are still hidden in the closet !!!

There was a seperate Shane Sutton Thread on CN

Just quoting a "tested 100's of times and never failed" just looks like you are trying to paint him as another LA. Post the links (even if they are CN ones) and I will read them - not difficult ...

 

[Ripper]

Just quoting a "tested 100's of times and never failed" just looks like you are trying to paint him as another LA. Post the links (even if they are CN ones) and I will read them - not difficult ...

Don't you worry JR, Brits don't dope. They are just morally unable. Especially the English ... it has something to do with weather and the queen. The Welsh are unlikely and the Scots, well it's more of a mixed bag; but if the Scots do, they repent big time!

So you can feel much better.

There's nothing to see here.

 

[Justinr]

Don't you worry JR, Brits don't dope. They are just morally unable. Especially the English ... it has something to do with weather and the queen. The Welsh are unlikely and the Scots, well it's more of a mixed bag; but if the Scots do, they repent big time!

So you can feel much better.

There's nothing to see here.

All I asked for was a link - if it was that easy then why not post it ...

 

[Ripper]

All I asked for was a link - if it was that easy then why not post it ...

I'm just saying Brits don't dope.

Nope

 

[orbeas]

Brits dont dope

All I asked for was a link - if it was that easy then why not post it ...

Hey there sit down with a few beers and have a read --
If you were around in the UK pro scene in the 80's you would have known all about it anyway

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=19214&page=2

 

[orbeas]

Brits dont dope

Just quoting a "tested 100's of times and never failed" just looks like you are trying to paint him as another LA. Post the links (even if they are CN ones) and I will read them - not difficult ...

sorry the quote is 'I must have been tested 103 times or something '

link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2220801/Team-Sky-braced-departures.html

 

[Justinr]

sorry the quote is 'I must have been tested 103 times or something '

link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2220801/Team-Sky-braced-departures.html

Thanks for posting - I'll read those. It just riles me when people say things as fact / gospel but wont post to authentic stories. Once again thanks.

 

[Justinr]

I'm just saying Brits don't dope.

Nope

Yeah yeah i know you're try to push my buttons you monkey! I'd do the same to you given the chance...

 

[gooner]

Couldn't find a thread for this so decided to put it here.

Walsh has spoken about this today and I wonder what it is he is referring to.

"I just hope I never stop being a journalist," he says. "The sportswriting is fine but journalism is all about that business of comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable. That's what we should be doing." It appears that he's about to become unpopular all over again. Next week, he reveals, "I'll be pursuing a fantastic story of corruption in British sport. It will appal people and I know it will be incredibly difficult to get into print." He confided some details and I can see why it is likely to prove explosive. Alex Butler, be prepared.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/apr/20/lance-armstrong-david-walsh-drug-addled-cycling

 

[the sceptic]

how does Walsh not see the irony in himself becoming a fan with a typewriter with sky.

 

[Justinr]

Couldn't find a thread for this so decided to put it here.

Walsh has spoken about this today and I wonder what it is he is referring to.



http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/apr/20/lance-armstrong-david-walsh-drug-addled-cycling

It will be interesting to see what thats about. Maybe, just maybe, it has f****k all to do with SKY despite The Sceptics post above ...

 

[the sceptic]

It will be interesting to see what thats about. Maybe, just maybe, it has f****k all to do with SKY despite The Sceptics post above ...

I would be shocked if that has anything to do with sky.

I was just commenting on the general tone of the article, painting Walsh as a lone anti doping crusader, working against an endless stream of fans with typewrites until one day he gets the dream gig with sky, and becomes their biggest fan.