Brits don't dope?

[Peter70]

Who's done this?

You'll be a long time waiting for an answer.

Wiggins lost weight between 2008 and 2012 before putting it back on in 2014.

He didn't lose 2 stone in a month and stick it all back on again over Christmas.

BTW There are athletes who refuse to dope and still win at the top level. Or are you denying the existence of a) G Obree and b) My dad?

 

[Digger]

You'll be a long time waiting for an answer.

Wiggins lost weight between 2008 and 2012 before putting it back on in 2014.

He didn't lose 2 stone in a month and stick it all back on again over Christmas.

Just more casual racism from the usual bigots.

BTW There are athletes who refuse to dope and still win at the top level. Or are you denying the existence of a) G Obree and b) My dad?

Just to clarify, what do you mean by this?

 

[badboygolf16v]

BTW There are athletes who refuse to dope and still win at the top level. Or are you denying the existence of a) G Obree and b) My dad?

No disrepect to Mr Obree, but he never won at the top level on the road.

 

[wrinklyvet]

No disrepect to Mr Obree, but he never won at the top level on the road.

Not that old chestnut, surely? Is that the only place to shine?

 

[veganrob]

Who's done this?

Someone on Sky has recently claimed he could lose 10-12 lbs in a very short period of time. I honestly don't recall who it was though.

 

[thehog]

Someone on Sky has recently claimed he could lose 10-12 lbs in a very short period of time. I honestly don't recall who it was though.

Wiggo. Or it may have been a teenage girl on Instagram. Same thing I guess.

 

[sniper]

Wiggo. Or it may have been a teenage girl on Instagram. Same thing I guess.

During the 2009 Tour, Wiggins said: “Compared to the 2007 Tour, my weight loss means I’m carrying the equivalent of six bags of sugar less up a mountain. Shedding that weight is all that I can do to give myself the best chance on the climbs other than taking drugs, and I’m not going to do that.”

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/how-to-lose-weight-like-a-pro-cyclist-nutrition-23825/

 

[thehog]

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/how-to-lose-weight-like-a-pro-cyclist-nutrition-23825/

“Just little things like the way I spent my 34th birthday at the end of April. I did 7½ hours on the bike that day in Majorca. I had no breakfast, and didn’t eat anything on the bike all day because I was on a bit of a severe weight-loss thing post-Paris-Roubaix. I was away training, sleeping in a [oxygen] tent in Majorca on my son’s birthday.

An oxygen tent! And no breakfast! Sounds like a lot of fun. Drugs would be much easier.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...ns-faith-in-cycling-post-Lance-Armstrong.html

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Not that old chestnut, surely? Is that the only place to shine?

Only someone with a desire to spin would equate a pursuit win of 4-5 minutes effort to a TdF win where the winner rode at 6.4W/kg for over an hour on the penultimate stage. A TdF win that included one of the most dominant displays of cycling for a 7 month period.

Makes OBree look like a pretender.

But you get that.

Also: I agree. OBree and who ever his dad is may have been the last clean winners at the top. Chapeau.

 

[blackcat]

Someone on Sky has recently claimed he could lose 10-12 lbs in a very short period of time. I honestly don't recall who it was though.

guys like Swift and Peter Kennaugh, flitting back and forth between the team pursuit, and then aspirations on the road. G might have gone thru this too.

 

[blackcat]

You'll be a long time waiting for an answer.

Wiggins lost weight between 2008 and 2012 before putting it back on in 2014.

He didn't lose 2 stone in a month and stick it all back on again over Christmas.

Just more casual racism from the usual bigots.

BTW There are athletes who refuse to dope and still win at the top level. Or are you denying the existence of a) G Obree and b) My dad?

you have never seen riders go from riding GC at GT level, then ride a pursuit at ~78, then ride a GT at~70. Mcgee did it at about ~72, and one kg heavier at Athens. Brown and Ogrady were about 1kg heavier on the boards, then Stuey flicked over onto the road for the 240km rr.

These are elite athletes, professionals, they cannot decide on whim to change their body shape and lose non-fuctional body mass, overnight, because they are already training at 100% at a caloric equilibrium. The only way to lost such weight would be to starve yourself, but they need to be pro athletes, with significant nutrition intake.

The only reason these new era riders like Horner and even Nibali, and Hesjedal, and Froome, and Wiggins, turn up with such profound weightloss is because of new peptides like lipotropin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipotropin. p'raps, some AICAR, but I would be leaning to lipotropin. Robert Bartko and Jens Lehmann rode in the wrong era, a little AICAR and lipotropin and they would have won the TdF too <eyesroll>

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/how-to-lose-weight-like-a-pro-cyclist-nutrition-23825/

During the 2009 Tour, Wiggins said: “Compared to the 2007 Tour, my weight loss means I’m carrying the equivalent of six bags of sugar less up a mountain. Shedding that weight is all that I can do to give myself the best chance on the climbs other than taking drugs, and I’m not going to do that.”

hmmm

You'll be a long time waiting for an answer.

Wiggins lost weight between 2008 and 2012 before putting it back on in 2014.

So the guy trolling by making false accusations of racism says it took 4 years for wiggo to lose weight but wiggo himself says he had already lost that weight by the 2009 tdf.

Who to believe

 

[The Hitch]

Also: I agree. OBree and who ever his dad is may have been the last clean winners at the top. Chapeau.

I beat my sister in a lap around the block.
I was clean
Therefore its possible to win clean.
Therefore its possible to win the Tour de France clean.

logic.

 

[The Hitch]

An oxygen tent! And no breakfast! Sounds like a lot of fun. Drugs would be much easier.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...ns-faith-in-cycling-post-Lance-Armstrong.html

Someone needs to show this to Bassons.

Idiot thinks people lose weight but not power because of Aicar and **** like that.

Riding lots without eating is the real answer.

 

[thehog]

Someone needs to show this to Bassons.

Idiot thinks people lose weight but not power because of Aicar and **** like that.

Riding lots without eating is the real answer.

Yes, food is overrated. There really is no reason to eat it, ever

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Margarine gains?

 

[Ferminal]

Just to clarify, what do you mean by this?

I think he means xenophobia...

 

[Digger]

Kennaugh lost 4 or 5 kgs in 7 weeks mid season. Firstly it's nonsense but did he have 5kgs, mid season, to lose? Marginal gains...should have got that nutrition expert cound to sort him.

 

[ebandit]

cleans

Also: I agree. OBree and who ever his dad is may have been the last clean winners at the top. Chapeau.

.............and boardman..............maybe? wiggo/froome............never

underestimate the value of washing ones hands..............................

well cleans

Mark L

 

[Dr. Juice]

you have never seen riders go from riding GC at GT level, then ride a pursuit at ~78, then ride a GT at~70. Mcgee did it at about ~72, and one kg heavier at Athens. Brown and Ogrady were about 1kg heavier on the boards, then Stuey flicked over onto the road for the 240km rr.

These are elite athletes, professionals, they cannot decide on whim to change their body shape and lose non-fuctional body mass, overnight, because they are already training at 100% at a caloric equilibrium. The only way to lost such weight would be to starve yourself, but they need to be pro athletes, with significant nutrition intake.

The only reason these new era riders like Horner and even Nibali, and Hesjedal, and Froome, and Wiggins, turn up with such profound weightloss is because of new peptides like lipotropin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipotropin. p'raps, some AICAR, but I would be leaning to lipotropin. Robert Bartko and Jens Lehmann rode in the wrong era, a little AICAR and lipotropin and they would have won the TdF too <eyesroll>

Little anecdote: Bartko was clean and ...well sort of bullied when he was at Telekom...not directly but they would always keep him apart...he was a lonely man at that time...the fact that he didn't dope made the others paranoid.

 

[the sceptic]

Yes, food is overrated. There really is no reason to eat it, ever

I think the next marginal gain will be that Dawg discovers that he no longer needs to sleep.

Imagine how good he will be when he can train 24 hours a day while lazy amigos like Contador are sleeping or drinking coffee.

 

[thehog]

I think the next marginal gain will be that Dawg discovers that he no longer needs to sleep.

Imagine how good he will be when he can train 24 hours a day while lazy amigos like Contador are sleeping or drinking coffee.

He will ride his bike in an oxygen tent whilst not sleeping and training.

 

[blackcat]

You'll be a long time waiting for an answer.

Wiggins lost weight between 2008 and 2012 before putting it back on in 2014.

He didn't lose 2 stone in a month and stick it all back on again over Christmas.

BTW There are athletes who refuse to dope and still win at the top level. Or are you denying the existence of a) G Obree and b) My dad?

i did not say 2 stone.

I estimate, 77kgs down to about 71kg.

That is about one stone you goose.

Now, Wiggo has been on record himself, with numbers further askew than these measly 6 kgs. And 6kgs is less the one stone. One stone is about 6.5 kgs.

 

[blackcat]

Little anecdote: Bartko was clean and ...well sort of bullied when he was at Telekom...not directly but they would always keep him apart...he was a lonely man at that time...the fact that he didn't dope made the others paranoid.

I thought he was on Telekom for about one year around 96, and then in about 2001 he had two years on Rabobank.

I would like to think he rode clean. Do I believe it, well, I dont believe any cyclist can win a gold medal on the track at the Olympics.

My caveat would be, well, he sucked on the road. I think he may have won a prologue in an 2.2 race like Tour of Normandy, or Tour of Brittany, which is basically ridden by espoirs hoping to score a contract, or the teams like Guimard's VC Roubaix, or La Pomme Marseilles. Plus one or two Russian teams.

 

[blackcat]

Riding lots without eating is the real answer.

cant train at 100% not at caloric equilibrium.

cant win the TdF without training at 100%