Brits don't dope?

[neineinei]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490


Famous British track and field star reportedly named on 'doping' list
London lawyers representing the athlete moved into overdrive to make sure their client is not named
The star British athlete is named on a list that details 150 athletes with alleged highly suspicious blood samples from 2006-08
They were not followed up with target testing by the IAAF
Three London 2012 champions are reportedly on the list as well

"....if the star’s unblemished reputation was damaged in any way by being linked with known drugs cheats....."

So I take it that rules out Christine O.

The "as well" can be read like they are trying to say it isn't Farah or Ennis either.

 

[ferryman]

Ring a ding ding anyone:

Sir Chris Hoy's dedication to training set him apart from other athletes, according to former Team Scotland cyclist Richard Moore.
Six-time Olympic gold medallist Hoy is to receive the lifetime achievement award at the BBC Sports Personality show on Sunday in Glasgow.

And 1998 Commonwealth Games cyclist Moore says it is well-deserved.

"That's why Chris was so good. For him, every training session was important, it really mattered," he said.
Moore was in the same team as Hoy in 1998 and has since written cycling books, including one about the track legend.
"He worked incredibly hard and was a very good trainer - not all athletes are," he said.

"Some love competition and are not so keen on the daily grind of training, but he loved the training as much as the competition and I think that's why he kept going for so long and was so successful.

 

[Parker]

Ring a ding ding anyone:

Sir Chris Hoy's dedication to training set him apart from other athletes, according to former Team Scotland cyclist Richard Moore.
Six-time Olympic gold medallist Hoy is to receive the lifetime achievement award at the BBC Sports Personality show on Sunday in Glasgow.

And 1998 Commonwealth Games cyclist Moore says it is well-deserved.

"That's why Chris was so good. For him, every training session was important, it really mattered," he said.
Moore was in the same team as Hoy in 1998 and has since written cycling books, including one about the track legend.
"He worked incredibly hard and was a very good trainer - not all athletes are," he said.

"Some love competition and are not so keen on the daily grind of training, but he loved the training as much as the competition and I think that's why he kept going for so long and was so successful.

Do you have a point? Or is this just straight up trolling from the Clinic's house-trained mod? You're pathetic.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Ring a ding ding anyone:

Sir Chris Hoy's dedication to training set him apart from other athletes, according to former Team Scotland cyclist Richard Moore.

Nice find. I dismissed his Sky opinion after seeing he was employed by Sky Sports and had authored books about the riders. Clearly would have paid to dig deeper.

Strange that that is never mentioned when he posts articles about the ol' country's cycling performances, etc. Or did I just miss it?

 

[kenk09]

What was the find?

 

[classic1]

sounds like an anecdote, p'raps apocryphal, of Australian athletics,

there was a preturnatural phenom in the mid 90s who was dominating highjump at jnr level and then medalling at senior worlds and olympics, his name was Tim Forsythe, or Forsyth. Supposedly, as the anecdote goes, they tested him loads because of the assumption he was clean, so it got their numbers to look good. This before WADA, so it would have been for the Australian Olympic Commish, or Australian Sports Council that gives the Athletics Australia all the money.

Ask Dear Wiggo if he knows of it, or the other Australians on the forums.

He was one of the A-graders, in terms of Olympic level medallists, when track and field would have about 5 medallists and no golds, per olympics, in the better years, sometimes much less than 5, and no golds, during those decades before Sydney which was the hometown dope-fest. swimming is where it is at in Aus, and they always doped there too!

But if he did happen to test positive, or other A grade athletes test positive, they would have just swept it under the carpet.

He was from down my way. Extremely injury prone IIRC. Tall skinny beanpole.

Marginally interesting side note. He was co-winner of the local sportsperson of the year award in 1992, along with Kathy Watt. An uncle was on the voting committee. He had trouble answering the old mans questions of how a bronze medallist could be named co-winner with someone who won Gold and Silver at the same Olympic games....

 

[blackcat]

He was from down my way. Extremely injury prone IIRC. Tall skinny beanpole.

Marginally interesting side note. He was co-winner of the local sportsperson of the year award in 1992, along with Kathy Watt. An uncle was on the voting committee. He had trouble answering the old mans questions of how a bronze medallist could be named co-winner with someone who won Gold and Silver at the same Olympic games....

classo is the subtext there, could be either, could be both, i)he was not too bright? and/or ii) the voting members knew he was beyond reproach and beyond cary/carey hall's grasp?

He won a medal in Barcelona? A bronze? I carnt be farked googling

Forsythe should have won a medal for mullets tho. truly resplendent.

 

[BullsFan22]

The "as well" can be read like they are trying to say it isn't Farah or Ennis either.

Whether or not their names come up in any report(s) in the coming days or weeks, I'd be very shocked if Farah or Ennis weren't doping. You don't beat Ethiopians or Kenyans (who are most likely doping) without some extra curricular activity. You just don't. This is like back in the day when Armstrong fans were saying that there is no way Lance was doping, even when all of his rivals were being caught and exposed every which way.

 

[classic1]

classo is the subtext there, could be either, could be both, i)he was not too bright? and/or ii) the voting members knew he was beyond reproach and beyond cary/crey hall's grasp?

He won a medal in Barcelona? A bronze? I carnt be farked googling

Forsythe should have won a medal for mullets tho. truly resplendent.

No subtext. Yeah, shared a bronze at Barcelona. I met Forsythe very briefly once. Just a knockabout Aussie country bloke who could jump high. I doubt he was on the gear, because I looked in his eyes and stuff ahahaha. No reason to believe he was a doper unless Thorpdale potatoes are now on the banned list. Had a extremely promising early career, then faded away mostly through injury by recollection.

Voting members on the local award panel would have had no idea about Cary Hall. Actually, I'm convinced they had no idea about anything.

 

[blackcat]

No subtext. Yeah, shared a bronze at Barcelona. I met Forsythe very briefly once. Just a knockabout Aussie country bloke who could jump high. I doubt he was on the gear, because I looked in his eyes and stuff ahahaha. No reason to believe he was a doper unless Thorpdale potatoes are now on the banned list. Had a extremely promising early career, then faded away mostly through injury by recollection.

Voting members on the local award panel would have had no idea about Cary Hall. Actually, I'm convinced they had no idea about anything.

yeah, thats what i thought you meant.

and he was jumping that high as a 16/17yo. He was about 18 or may have been one year either side of that, when he won the bronze.

but the mullet, if was on any dope it would be nimbin/griffith. was a great mullet. he had aspirations to play basketball and tried out with Melbourne Tigers, but by all reports, he was pretty sh!te. he could put his head over the ring, but not the Thorpe ring.

 

[blackcat]

Mwahhaha! In the swimming and cycling programs, lets just say that the AIS pushes athletes to breaking point to see who can "cope". Those who "develop the ability" to cope with extreme training loads (particularly in the Charlie Walsh era) make the cut, while those who don't either learn the hard way, or fall by the wayside

and there have been the recent articles on Wade's CyclingTips and on Cyclingnews by Scott McGory and... who was the other one. I think Cookie was quoted, but he did not pen an article. It was from a rider who did not make the team in OGrady's era, he was from up near the Murray in Dean Wood's region if I remember, Classic1 would know who it is. Think his name sounded really gay like Bobby something. 1980s name.

 

[coinneach]

Nice find. I dismissed his Sky opinion after seeing he was employed by Sky Sports and had authored books about the riders. Clearly would have paid to dig deeper
Strange that that is never mentioned when he posts articles about the ol' country's cycling performances, etc. Or did I just miss it?

It's not digging deeper, it's called reading books.
You'll find they broaden your mind, I promise you will.
Richard Moores books on sport, and cycling in particular, are full of detailed information and are entertaining too. He's open about his own limited sporting past in his book "in search of Robert Millar"

Call me a fanboy (because I am) but I cannot for a second believe chris hoy is anything other than 100% clean. Whereas It wouldn't be such a surprise to me if it was JE....... I base that on Seb Coes reaction, and also how she has handled herself, but I wouldn't call it evidence.

 

[TailWindHome]

True reminds me of the Ryan Giggs case whereby he was finally named on Twitter and once the cat was out of the bag... it was out of the bag.

I'm sure the Daily Star will be on the case..

Correct.
Gossip will always out

 

[Dear Wiggo]

It's not digging deeper, it's called reading books.
You'll find they broaden your mind, I promise you will.

Oh look, a personal response. I'll just call it out and highlight it for you.

 

[bobbins]

Nice find. I dismissed his Sky opinion after seeing he was employed by Sky Sports and had authored books about the riders. Clearly would have paid to dig deeper.

Strange that that is never mentioned when he posts articles about the ol' country's cycling performances, etc. Or did I just miss it?

He's a regular talking head on Sky sports to talk about cycling, wheeled out with of all people Brian Smith to talk about Armstrong. Has no credibility since selling himself out to Sky, not that appearing with Brian Smith would help in the credibility stakes.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Correct.
Gossip will always out

I hope your right, this is unbelievably frustrating.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

It seems all the papers know, so all it takes is one person in an Internet cafe, to create a Twitter troll account or a member of the foreign press.

 

[coinneach]

It seems all the papers know, so all it takes is one person in an Internet cafe, to create a Twitter troll account or a member of the foreign press.

Well, if they all know, who are they interviewing?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/30425465

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Well, if they all know, who are they interviewing?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/30425465

The BBC has always been soft on doping, doin this interview could be a PR diversion or it could be unrelated.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

The witch hunt on Ennis continues. If it does turn out it's her then she deserves anything that comes to her. I'd be interested to know the reasons why so many of you feel so much hatred towards her though.

 

[sniper]

Since it's probably about EPO, my best guess is Mo Farah.

Who are the other candidates?

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Since it's probably about EPO, my best guess is Mo Farah.

Who are the other candidates?

Farah and Ohurugo are the most likely candidates. As someone has already said though, the tests date back to the time before Farah underwent his transformation so it's less likely to be him than if it had been a few years later. As the tests date back to when Ohurugo served her doping ban and then returned to become world champion then she must be hot favouritegfiven that her incredible endurance for a one lap runner is strongly indicative of blood doping. Surprising that nobody has mentioned Jo Pavey so far.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Farah and Ohurugo are the most likely candidates. As someone has already said though, the tests date back to the time before Farah underwent his transformation so it's less likely to be him than if it had been a few years later. As the tests date back to when Ohurugo served her doping ban and then returned to become world champion then she must be hot favouritegfiven that her incredible endurance for a one lap runner is strongly indicative of blood doping. Surprising that nobody has mentioned Jo Pavey so far.

The daily mail article specifically describes someone with an "untarnished reputation" so that rules out Christine.

Edit: It also specifically mentions a "track and field" star so that rules out the people who were saying Chris Hoy as well. I have to think it's either Ennis or Farah, no one else is a big enough name.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

The daily mail article specifically describes someone with an "untarnished reputation" so that rules out Christine.

That's interesting although much of the British press do think her reputation is untarnished as she just happened to miss three tests by mistake. Like everyone else I am so excited to find out who it is.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

I had a look on the lets run forum and Paula Radcliffe is the no. 1 name mentioned there.

However, she did not compete often from 2006-2007 due to injuries and pregnancy.

She has commented already on the German documentary so I will be interested to see if she comments further.