Brits don't dope?

[kenk09]

The sight of you all salivating over a British name appearing on a list of people singled out for closer inspection is really impressive.

Find it ever so slightly weird that you're actually trembling with excitement in the hope that it's someone very successful and someone who has spoken out strongly about anti-doping. It says a lot.

 

[the sceptic]

The sight of you all salivating over a British name appearing on a list of people singled out for closer inspection is really impressive.

Find it ever so slightly weird that you're actually trembling with excitement in the hope that it's someone very successful and someone who has spoken out strongly about anti-doping. It says a lot.

Cool story bro.

 

[Catwhoorg]

I would say not.


If there is anything on Lord Coe, I have little doubt the Ukranian media will dig it out in time for the IAAF election. Expect any juicy details May-August next year.



The 'high risk' being female. Well 2006 was a horrid year for British Athletics (Miserable fail at the Euros)


2007 was even worse (3 medals at the world, Ohuruogu involved in two of them).
Paula did finish second in the Great North run then win NY marathon.

2008 Bejing, only gold in track and field was Ohuruogu again.


I think Ohuruogu is the most likely candidate.

 

[veganrob]

The sight of you all salivating over a British name appearing on a list of people singled out for closer inspection is really impressive.

Find it ever so slightly weird that you're actually trembling with excitement in the hope that it's someone very successful and someone who has spoken out strongly about anti-doping. It says a lot.

Maybe you should read from the beginning of the thread to find out what it is about.

Oh, but you already know that, don't you.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

The sight of you all salivating over a British name appearing on a list of people singled out for closer inspection is really impressive.

Find it ever so slightly weird that you're actually trembling with excitement in the hope that it's someone very successful and someone who has spoken out strongly about anti-doping. It says a lot.

Yes. It shows that the system is broken, where so many could be viewed suspicious, yet the body is unable to act on them.

It says that some fans care about justice for every doper, and won't ignore those that talk big about being clean.

It shows that the truth is right there in front of us, but various powers-that-be are blocking it from getting out.

It shows that at least some of us can see through the bull****.

 

[kenk09]

Maybe you should read from the beginning of the thread to find out what it is about.

Oh, but you already know that, don't you.

Wow! Assertions become accepted as facts pretty quickly round here.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

The sight of you all salivating over a British name appearing on a list of people singled out for closer inspection is really impressive.

Find it ever so slightly weird that you're actually trembling with excitement in the hope that it's someone very successful and someone who has spoken out strongly about anti-doping. It says a lot.

Yep, we should all be keeping our fingers crossed that a millionaire athlete gets away with it.

It's human nature to celebrate when a tyrant is slain.

Your beta as hell bro.

 

[TailWindHome]

Can someone explain the mindset driving the lust to have it turn out that this girl doped?

Is it just because you think it would inflict the most emotional damage on British fans?

 

[DirtyWorks]

Yes. It shows that the system is broken, where so many could be viewed suspicious, yet the body is unwilling to act on them...

Shh!!! Ken09 says we aren't supposed to discuss fraud. We are just supposed to believe the IAAF is operating an actual sport instead of operating like an organized crime family.

BTW, I fixed that for you. Bribes to Diack means only one thing. They just let the positives lie when the bribe works and pass them onto the national federations where they do nothing anyway.

 

[kenk09]

Yep, we should all be keeping our fingers crossed that a millionaire athlete gets away with it.

It's human nature to celebrate when a tyrant is slain.

Your beta as hell bro.

Catching cheats is great, but again, why hope that it's someone who has been openly anti-doping AND successful? Wouldn't you want the possibility of that person being clean to be kept alive?

 

[kenk09]

Yes. It shows that the system is broken, where so many could be viewed suspicious, yet the body is unable to act on them.

It says that some fans care about justice for every doper, and won't ignore those that talk big about being clean.

It shows that the truth is right there in front of us, but various powers-that-be are blocking it from getting out.

It shows that at least some of us can see through the bull****.

Well that's not an argument I even came close to making, but whatever.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Can someone explain the mindset driving the lust to have it turn out that this girl doped?

Is it just because you think it would inflict the most emotional damage on British fans?

I've only seen one person say they hope it's her and one person say they hope it's not her.

I see no witch hunt.

Personally I'm hoping it's a more current athlete.

 

[sniper]

I've only seen one person say they hope it's her and one person say they hope it's not her.

I see no witch hunt.

Personally I'm hoping it's a more current athlete.

i have no illusions whatsoever that she or anyone with similar results is clean.
I therefore hope she gets caught. A caught doper is a good doper, regardless of nationality.
The pluspoint of this being a highprofile athlete is that Great Britain desperately needs an (anti)doping wake up call. She could be just that.

 

[the sceptic]

I just hope it's someone big enough so that the brits can get off their moral high horse.

 

[The Hitch]

Can someone explain the mindset driving the lust to have it turn out that this girl doped?

Is it just because you think it would inflict the most emotional damage on British fans?

Huh where is this lust for it to be Radcliffe? People aren't allowed to speculate who the doping cheater that's trying to bribe her way out of justice is

But anyway, your last sentence is funny. Anyone dumb enough to leave themselves exposed to "emotional damage" from an athlete getting caught doping deserves what they get. And are probably emotionally damaged to begin with.

 

[TheSpud]

My money's on Ennis. I think the clues lie in the Telegraph photo. That shows a female running in Adidas shoes. Farah and Radcliffe are both Nike athletes.

I'm not so sure. The shorts are flappy - Ennis doesnt wear flappies. Also the legs are the wrong skin colour.

I think you could read loads or nothing in to that picture. Had it clearly been a (very) black woman's legs in tight pants then you could say Ohurougu. Or maybe if the shoes were a very specific colour that only a certain athlete wears you could again read between the lines.

I think Hitch is right with this and the list - we're trying to grab at too many small straws.

 

[TheSpud]

well, the key is that it's a female.

and we also know it's a runner and someone famous.

can't really think of too many other options than Radcliffe.

Agree and disagree. The 'two other runners' comment could just be poor grammar from the journo.

But - lets assume all three are runners. I still think Ohurougu in there as well as the F in that list, regardless of the 'unblemished career' BS. That could well be her lawyers talking to the press - after all, she denied all wrong doing from what I remember.

I dont think we can read too much in to that fact they can afford lawyers. All modern sports men / women earn a packet and can afford some initial threatening letters to the papers, it really wouldn't cost that much. Most of us on here could probably afford it (initially) if we put our minds to it.

 

[wrinklyvet]

I just hope it's someone big enough so that the brits can get off their moral high horse.

Yep, that's the long and the short of it.

 

[yespatterns]

Any idea when the rest of the list will be made accessible to the public?

 

[Freddythefrog]

Has Pat got a new job as "special Adviser" to the IAAF?

You just have to love this from IAAF spokesman Nick Davies to http://www.letsrun.com

"Athletes with a “red flag” reading may well be guilty of doping, but equally (and we can prove it in the majority of names on this list) they may be innocent – which is why this information should always have remained locked up in the safe of the anti-doping department in Monaco."

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2014/12...w-retesting-150-suspicious-samples-2006-2008/

I tell you Lance was never, never, never, positive.

See, ........
.......now you have been told. So let's not hear any more about that.



What planet do these creeps come from ?

 

[Freddythefrog]

Well that was very "un-measured".

Nick Davies, a Brit, lives in Monaco.

Paula Radcliffe lives in Monaco.

 

[wrinklyvet]

Nick Davies, a Brit, lives in Monaco.

Paula Radcliffe lives in Monaco.

Silly observation?

The Principality of Monaco has been home to the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) since October 1993.

Where else do you expect them to keep their records?

 

[classic1]

and there have been the recent articles on Wade's CyclingTips and on Cyclingnews by Scott McGory and... who was the other one. I think Cookie was quoted, but he did not pen an article. It was from a rider who did not make the team in OGrady's era, he was from up near the Murray in Dean Wood's region if I remember, Classic1 would know who it is. Think his name sounded really gay like Bobby something. 1980s name.

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/03/the-human-cost-of-gold-medals/

Billy Joe Shearsby. Made the team alright, was cruelled by the AIS afterwards. Anyone who's met him will tell you he is a likeable bloke. Classy rider too. Really classy. Looked a picture on the bike and was STRONG.

 

[zebedee]

You just have to love this from IAAF spokesman Nick Davies to http://www.letsrun.com

"Athletes with a “red flag” reading may well be guilty of doping, but equally (and we can prove it in the majority of names on this list) they may be innocent – which is why this information should always have remained locked up in the safe of the anti-doping department in Monaco."

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2014/12...w-retesting-150-suspicious-samples-2006-2008/

Not for the little guys, eh? With attitudes like that, we have a problem, Houston.

If ever illuminating proof is required as to just how hopelessly conflicted the sporting federations are, this would be it. The IAAF effectively runs a doping consultancy service for its athletes with the public expected to remain in the dark. Just as well decent insiders exist prepared to risk their jobs and sneak the information out. This is as bad as the U.S. Olympic Commtitee in 1984 when it ran a pre-games doping test for its own athletes purely as a warning service to avoid detection. I think that's the bigger story here, frankly. I don't think there should be any surprise as to which of the big names is finally outed as the incidence of drug use in athletics is so high. Track and field athletes love their drugs every bit as much as cyclists.

 

[zebedee]

I'm not so sure. The shorts are flappy - Ennis doesnt wear flappies. Also the legs are the wrong skin colour.

I think you could read loads or nothing in to that picture. Had it clearly been a (very) black woman's legs in tight pants then you could say Ohurougu. Or maybe if the shoes were a very specific colour that only a certain athlete wears you could again read between the lines.

Another Telegraph photo depicts, in shadow, a hurdler - Ennis's main event. I think the Telegraph is using carefully selected stock photos, rather than shots of the actual suspect. That would make it too easy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...es-have-been-dragged-into-doping-scandal.html

There's a consensus on Radcliffe in some of the running forums but is she that big a fish right now? Christine Ohuruogo would be stale news for me; I have long assumed she is a doper and she hardly has an 'unblemished reputation'.