I don't believe you.I have more faith in Yates winning this Giro than at the same point in 2018.
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I don't believe you.I have more faith in Yates winning this Giro than at the same point in 2018.
I was sure he would blow up in Giro 2018, that won't happen here, in fact I think he will only get stronger.I don't believe you.
Top 5 is already lock. I'm waiting for Zoncolan to see if he can actually win the whole thing...Surprised by his performance today - A bit more improvement in his level and a top 5 is a lock and possibly a podium.
Also he has ridden Strade Bianche for the first time earlier in the season and didn't exactly shine there.It was mainly his own words before the stage that suggested he wouldn't do great on gravel. He expressed his anxiety about the gravel and also said that GT is not a right place for a gravel sectors. Then you'd rather not expect a lot from him with that sort of attitude before even the stage started..
So in this context, his today's performance was quite surprising.
It's his DS so we don't necessarily have to believe him, but Copeland told RAI that Yates' numbers weren't bad in the first week. He believe the others improved a lot compared to how they performed in Tour of the Alps. He specifically mentioned Vlasov among the ones he thinks improved.What I don't understand is how he can be in top form in Tour of the Alps, then suck two weeks later only to be back in world dominator form once again a week later. Form doesn't come and go that quickly. It just doesn't make any sense, unless he's been ill.
Basically we'd have expected him to be in the first group on stage 4 and 6, and probably be top 4 on stage 9 as well. And maybe it's a little based on us underestimating Bernal as well.It's his DS so we don't necessarily have to believe him, but Copeland told RAI that Yates' numbers weren't bad in the first week. He believe the others improved a lot compared to how they performed in Tour of the Alps. He specifically mentioned Vlasov among the ones he thinks improved.
So I checked how the riders Yates beat at TotA fared in the first week:
Bilbao - a lot worse than Yates
Vlasov - a little better than Yates (but he was already the closest to Yates by the end of TotA)
Cepeda - a lot worse
Carthy - a little better (probably the rider who improved the most relatively to TotA)
Sivakov - we have no idea
Quintana - not here
Guerreiro - worse (and he's a aomestique here so hard to compare)
Bardet - worse
Schultz - worse (see Guerreiro)
So overall I don't think we have many reference points for Yates performance in week 1 compared to TotA. Copeland probably had Vlasov and Carthy in mind when talking about riders who improved. In reality they weren't much better than Yates (Vlasov was around 30 seconds ahead, Carthy 10 seconds). Perhaps we overstated Yates' problems in week 1 because we were expecting him to crush the opposition?
He's probably the rider whose GT performance is the hardest to predict since I started following cycling. You have a low floor, an excitingly high ceiling and everything in between too.Basically we'd have expected him to be in the first group on stage 4 and 6, and probably be top 4 on stage 9 as well. And maybe it's a little based on us underestimating Bernal as well.
Also I think we were expecting an impending Yates implosion or something like that.
Still think the sample size of him being unexpectedly nowhere was only N=1 with the 2019 Giro.He's probably the rider whose GT performance is the hardest to predict since I started following cycling. You have a low floor, an excitingly high ceiling and everything in between too.
Pre-2018 Yates was the kind of guy who's reasonably consistent, could finish every GT he enters in the top10 and sneak on the podium with the right circumstances (someone like Majka?). Then he dominates a GT for two weeks and drops an hour in the final 2 stages. Then he wins a GT in fairly convincing fashion (ok Vuelta, but still). Then he's back to his old top10 self you barely notice for 3 weeks. And now he flies under the radar for 10 stages and starts looking like a threat at the end of week 2. I mean WTF?
Who knows, maybe it's Adam...Nice how Ineos bought Adam, but Simon is the one working for Bernal on the Zoncolan.![]()
Egan will repay him in latter stages.Nice how Ineos bought Adam, but Simon is the one working for Bernal on the Zoncolan.![]()
Before Bernal dropped him, I thought Yates looked the better of the 2Nice how Ineos bought Adam, but Simon is the one working for Bernal on the Zoncolan.![]()
I think that's just style though.Before Bernal dropped him, I thought Yates looked the better of the 2
I mean BlueRoads' post was very tongue-in-cheek, but from the perspective of the team car there was no reason for Yates to ease off.I think that's just style though.
Tbh losing 13s at such a gradient after isn't extremely much, but it's still something.
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