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HelloDolly said:
A big surprise if S.Yates does better than Chavez on GC - Though he should be kept in reserve.
I hope his GC hopes aren't hurt trying to help Chaves who clearly isn't up to it. Dragging him up a climb as we speak - 2nd stage in a row Chaves has tried to follow the big boys and blown badly.
Dragged Chaves up the climb again, who then jumped for a handful of seconds in the last few hundred metres. Only plus point now is Chaves clearly isn't up to winning and Yates is safely in the top 10 so hopefully the team will now give him a fair run at his own race in future climbs.
S.Yates should ride his own race.He helped Chaves already 2 times and is clear that Chaves is not stronger than him.
I'd go as far as to say Yates should be Orica leader now. Chaves always fades badly last week, and Simon is only a minute behind, despite working a lot for Chaves
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Not sure I agree Simon hasn't shown he can do it over 3 weeks constantly (yes I know he was strong on the Alpe last year but different circumstance), IMO just protect them both and let them do what they can on the final climb neither should wait for the otherPremierAndrew said:
Things will remain the same for the rest of the Vuelta - The long game is getting S.Yates to Giro 2017 in good shape.
Impressive stuff from Simon, given that he's wasting energy and breaking his own rhythm to look after Chaves. Too risky for Orica to play it otherwise though as his form in the third week of a GT is an unknown
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The long game is for you to stop posting like a 10 year old fantasising that you have inside information.
There's no shame in it - when I was your age, I thought I was training for the junior Tour de France. But if you could stop posting your opinion as if it were inside information, that would be great.
yaco said:
The long game is for you to stop posting like a 10 year old fantasising that you have inside information.
There's no shame in it - when I was your age, I thought I was training for the junior Tour de France. But if you could stop posting your opinion as if it were inside information, that would be great.
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Adma hadn't shown much until he nearly podiumed at the Tour and lets face it there are as good as each other and as competitive
Yates in interview says he is there for Chaves but i think he is the stoger climber and I think Chaves is only better on the short explosive climbs (if even that) and will fade as race goes on ....Remember the level at the Giro was below what it was at the Tour or is at this Vuelta
Ramon Koran said:
Adma hadn't shown much until he nearly podiumed at the Tour and lets face it there are as good as each other and as competitive
Yates in interview says he is there for Chaves but i think he is the stoger climber and I think Chaves is only better on the short explosive climbs (if even that) and will fade as race goes on ....Remember the level at the Giro was below what it was at the Tour or is at this Vuelta
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I post a little bit of inside information that I get from time to time - Of course the best laid plans change depending on circumstances - As it stands now. Chavez is the leader in the Vuelta,just like Froome is the leader of Sky at the Vuelta Of course Chavez or Froome could blow up tomorrow or could crash - Simon is doing a sterling job and should be congratulated on his performance so far - The long game is to get Simon to lead a GT in 2017 in an interrupted season.
I reckon I'd go better if I posted willy nilly about races which I don't watch like about half this forum - And this doesn't just happen on cycling forums - It's one of the bizarre things about forums.
Waterloo Sunrise said:
I post a little bit of inside information that I get from time to time - Of course the best laid plans change depending on circumstances - As it stands now. Chavez is the leader in the Vuelta,just like Froome is the leader of Sky at the Vuelta Of course Chavez or Froome could blow up tomorrow or could crash - Simon is doing a sterling job and should be congratulated on his performance so far - The long game is to get Simon to lead a GT in 2017 in an interrupted season.
I reckon I'd go better if I posted willy nilly about races which I don't watch like about half this forum - And this doesn't just happen on cycling forums - It's one of the bizarre things about forums.
3rd climbing stage in a row stronger than Chaves, and this time he was even allowed to finish in front.
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Possibly but a stage win (which he already has) and a top 10 would still be a great result.
Pricey_sky said:
Possibly but a stage win (which he already has) and a top 10 would still be a great result.
Top 10 starting to separate from the rest, and frankly there are riders there looking far more tenuous or likely to fade than Simon
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Froome Quintana Valverde Contador Chaves Konig Yates Scarponi all in with a decent shout
All depends on how much the first 3's form fades
Pricey_sky said:
Froome Quintana Valverde Contador Chaves Konig Yates Scarponi all in with a decent shout
All depends on how much the first 3's form fades
S.Yates looking good again.Orica might actually get both of their riders in the top 5 at the end of the race.
Yates is the better climber in this Vuelta ...at least Orica should let him ride his own race
Chaves has GT in his legs and at his age I think he will fade ...I think Yates, Scarponi , Sanchez can improve GC ..
Fitght for third palce on podium and top 5 is wide open ...with Yates a good bet
Talansky , DeLa Cruz, Formolo, Moreno,Pardilla, JC Peraud will fight for top 10 spot
Chaves has GT in his legs and at his age I think he will fade ...I think Yates, Scarponi , Sanchez can improve GC ..
Fitght for third palce on podium and top 5 is wide open ...with Yates a good bet
Talansky , DeLa Cruz, Formolo, Moreno,Pardilla, JC Peraud will fight for top 10 spot
Nobody is waiting for anybody!
They are doing their own race. It showed today. So not sure what switching leadership means for Orica. They are probably working for both riders at this point anyway.
They are doing their own race. It showed today. So not sure what switching leadership means for Orica. They are probably working for both riders at this point anyway.
Good ride by S.Yates today and so far in the Vuelta - Think the remaining mountain stages better suit his characteristics and he is every chance to keep a top 10 place in GC - The key will be the ITT which is not his strong suit, though he is a bit better at this discipline than Chavez and his brother -Yates is riding a better than I expected.
Are there inflatable banners at La Vuelta? You know what they say about twins. Not that I'd have any wish for it to happen. Good ride by Simon. He could have been even better if not working for Chaves here and there. These two are really likeable guys. For me Simon has edge on Chaves in that matter so its clear who to cheer for.
It was a surprise seeing S.Yates attacking in the last 4km to chase down the break - I am most interested in his TT in stage 19.
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