Teams & Riders Brothers in (crank) arms - Yates Discussion Thread

[yaco]

Presumably Chaves will be their Vuelta GC contender, given he's refinding his feet this year?

There will be no GC focus at the Vuelta - It will be about stage hunting.

I'll believe that when I see it.

They don't have the riders to ride a decent GC - Chaves is still finding his form while Nieve could finish just inside the top 10 if he rides GC - You aim for top 5 if you are serious for GC.

 

[jaylew]

Presumably Chaves will be their Vuelta GC contender, given he's refinding his feet this year?

There will be no GC focus at the Vuelta - It will be about stage hunting.

I'll believe that when I see it.

They don't have the riders to ride a decent GC - Chaves is still finding his form while Nieve could finish just inside the top 10 if he rides GC - You aim for top 5 if you are serious for GC.

I guess we'll see in August.

 

[movingtarget]

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Weird to me - should've kept Simon for the Vuelta. I guess the sponsor's call comes first though.

And a bit to do with helping the brother.

 

[Kokoso]

Presumably Chaves will be their Vuelta GC contender, given he's refinding his feet this year?

There will be no GC focus at the Vuelta - It will be about stage hunting.

I'll believe that when I see it.

They don't have the riders to ride a decent GC - Chaves is still finding his form while Nieve could finish just inside the top 10 if he rides GC - You aim for top 5 if you are serious for GC.

Nieve would ride better GC than 8th place this Giro. Sadly, Yates was leader.

 

[del1962]

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Actually Simon should have abandoned the Giro after it was clear he didnt have the goods to podium and then trained for the TDF. Now it is a waste as support instead of trying to win the Vuelta

No!

If riders start abandoning Grand Tours when they can ride top 5, I really don't know where we're headed.

It's not a computer game where you can just press restart.

totally agree, he trained for Giro, he wasn't injured just didn't have form

 

[yaco]

Presumably Chaves will be their Vuelta GC contender, given he's refinding his feet this year?

There will be no GC focus at the Vuelta - It will be about stage hunting.

I'll believe that when I see it.

They don't have the riders to ride a decent GC - Chaves is still finding his form while Nieve could finish just inside the top 10 if he rides GC - You aim for top 5 if you are serious for GC.

Nieve would ride better GC than 8th place this Giro. Sadly, Yates was leader.

What a weird post - Yates won his last GT and you wanted Nieve as leader - Wow !

 

[tobydawq]

And Nieve wasn't even that good in the Giro. He was dropped by Ciccone and Hirt on the Mortirolo stage.

 

[Red Rick]

Think they really ought to go to the Vuelta for the breakaways with maybe Chaves getting a free role to see if he can ride a GC. Unless Adam doubles up with the intention of going for it.

 

[Kokoso]

@yaco your post is weird, not mine. It is not only hysterical, it's wrong, too. I've never said I wanted Nieve as a leader before Giro. Read properly, at least if you are to scream hystericaly in reaction.

 

[Kokoso]

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And Nieve wasn't even that good in the Giro. He was dropped by Ciccone and Hirt on the Mortirolo stage.

For the first part see reactiom to yaco. For the second -
youu can't really compare them this way. They've had different workload previous days; took part in different escapes...
Besides Hirt is helluva rider on slopes like Mortirolo.

 

[Mayomaniac]

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And Nieve wasn't even that good in the Giro. He was dropped by Ciccone and Hirt on the Mortirolo stage.

For the first part see reactiom to yaco. For the second -
youu can't really compare them this way. They've had different workload previous days; took part in different escapes...
Besides Hirt is helluva rider on slopes like Mortirolo.

This, Hirt and Ciccone only rode a few seconds slower than Mollema and Roglic while spending the whole day in the breakaway and sprinting for KoM points, they were super strong.
The bigger problem for the team is that they don't have many riders who can support them in the mountains and ride a strong TTT, maybe Bookwalter, but the rest is more pure climbers or proper rouleurs.

 

[wirral]

Is Whitey planning the old twin switcharoo?

 

[Oliver]

Very bad performance yesterday by Simon... what is he doing here actually? He better took a break.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Very bad performance yesterday by Simon... what is he doing here actually? He better took a break.

On the ITV4 show Adam said how he rode into form during the last week of the 2018 Vuelta to help his brother, and the plan is for Simon to do the same. So I don’t expect much during this first half of the race.

 

[stefank]

Poor old Simon Yates. He wins a stage of the TdF and other events result in it being almost completely ignored!

 

[Forever The Best]

I still think Yates should have ridden Vuelta instead (Talking about Simon ofc, I couldn't care less about the British version of Gerrans). Maybe he is aiming for a peak for Lombardia and co. late in the season? I think he should give Lombardia a real go, because it suits Yates a lot.

 

[RedheadDane]

Adam points out that he's got some catching up to do.

 

[yaco]

I suspect that if GC doesn't work out for Adam at the TDF, then Mitchelton Scott will need to stop him riding GC at GT's - He's talented enough to in shorter stage races and one day races.

 

[KZD]

Adam showing that he isn't a GT stage racer. The second straight year in which he fails in the Tour.

 

[IndianCyclist]

both brothers failed similarly first in the TT and then in the climb. I would say that something is wrong with the preparation. Training too hard too fast or losing too much weight.

 

[yaco]

One thing about the Yates boys is if they do a poor ITT, they don't improve the following days, whereas riders do a poor ITT and then bounce backin the mountains - Think Adam needs to rest up tomorrow and look for breaks next week. ,

 

[Oliver]

Great win by Simon. The team is lucky they take him to the Tour.

His brother... I hope he does understand now that he isn’t a GC rider in a grand tour. Lost many time today, probably wants to go for a stage now?

 

[Singer01]

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Great win by Simon. The team is lucky they take him to the Tour.

His brother... I hope he does understand now that he isn’t a GC rider in a grand tour. Lost many time today, probably wants to go for a stage now?

He finished 4th when he was still riding for white. Of course he is a GC rider. Just not likely a GC winner.

 

[yaco]

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Great win by Simon. The team is lucky they take him to the Tour.

His brother... I hope he does understand now that he isn’t a GC rider in a grand tour. Lost many time today, probably wants to go for a stage now?

He finished 4th when he was still riding for white. Of course he is a GC rider. Just not likely a GC winner.

Not a GC rider at a GT - He's talented enough for short stage races and one day races.

 

[yaco]

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Great win by Simon. The team is lucky they take him to the Tour.

His brother... I hope he does understand now that he isn’t a GC rider in a grand tour. Lost many time today, probably wants to go for a stage now?

Adam sat up today so he has freedom for next week.