Brothers in (crank) arms - Yates Discussion Thread

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jaylew said:
yaco said:
Davesta said:
Presumably Chaves will be their Vuelta GC contender, given he's refinding his feet this year?
There will be no GC focus at the Vuelta - It will be about stage hunting.
I'll believe that when I see it.
They don't have the riders to ride a decent GC - Chaves is still finding his form while Nieve could finish just inside the top 10 if he rides GC - You aim for top 5 if you are serious for GC.
 
yaco said:
jaylew said:
yaco said:
Davesta said:
Presumably Chaves will be their Vuelta GC contender, given he's refinding his feet this year?
There will be no GC focus at the Vuelta - It will be about stage hunting.
I'll believe that when I see it.
They don't have the riders to ride a decent GC - Chaves is still finding his form while Nieve could finish just inside the top 10 if he rides GC - You aim for top 5 if you are serious for GC.
I guess we'll see in August.
 
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yaco said:
jaylew said:
yaco said:
Davesta said:
Presumably Chaves will be their Vuelta GC contender, given he's refinding his feet this year?
There will be no GC focus at the Vuelta - It will be about stage hunting.
I'll believe that when I see it.
They don't have the riders to ride a decent GC - Chaves is still finding his form while Nieve could finish just inside the top 10 if he rides GC - You aim for top 5 if you are serious for GC.
Nieve would ride better GC than 8th place this Giro. Sadly, Yates was leader.
 
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tobydawq said:
IndianCyclist said:
Actually Simon should have abandoned the Giro after it was clear he didnt have the goods to podium and then trained for the TDF. Now it is a waste as support instead of trying to win the Vuelta
No!

If riders start abandoning Grand Tours when they can ride top 5, I really don't know where we're headed.

It's not a computer game where you can just press restart.
totally agree, he trained for Giro, he wasn't injured just didn't have form
 
Kokoso said:
yaco said:
jaylew said:
yaco said:
Davesta said:
Presumably Chaves will be their Vuelta GC contender, given he's refinding his feet this year?
There will be no GC focus at the Vuelta - It will be about stage hunting.
I'll believe that when I see it.
They don't have the riders to ride a decent GC - Chaves is still finding his form while Nieve could finish just inside the top 10 if he rides GC - You aim for top 5 if you are serious for GC.
Nieve would ride better GC than 8th place this Giro. Sadly, Yates was leader.
What a weird post - Yates won his last GT and you wanted Nieve as leader - Wow !
 
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@yaco your post is weird, not mine. It is not only hysterical, it's wrong, too. I've never said I wanted Nieve as a leader before Giro. Read properly, at least if you are to scream hystericaly in reaction.
 
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tobydawq said:
And Nieve wasn't even that good in the Giro. He was dropped by Ciccone and Hirt on the Mortirolo stage.
For the first part see reactiom to yaco. For the second -
youu can't really compare them this way. They've had different workload previous days; took part in different escapes...
Besides Hirt is helluva rider on slopes like Mortirolo.
 
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Kokoso said:
tobydawq said:
And Nieve wasn't even that good in the Giro. He was dropped by Ciccone and Hirt on the Mortirolo stage.
For the first part see reactiom to yaco. For the second -
youu can't really compare them this way. They've had different workload previous days; took part in different escapes...
Besides Hirt is helluva rider on slopes like Mortirolo.
This, Hirt and Ciccone only rode a few seconds slower than Mollema and Roglic while spending the whole day in the breakaway and sprinting for KoM points, they were super strong.
The bigger problem for the team is that they don't have many riders who can support them in the mountains and ride a strong TTT, maybe Bookwalter, but the rest is more pure climbers or proper rouleurs.
 
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Oliver said:
Very bad performance yesterday by Simon... what is he doing here actually? He better took a break.
On the ITV4 show Adam said how he rode into form during the last week of the 2018 Vuelta to help his brother, and the plan is for Simon to do the same. So I don’t expect much during this first half of the race.
 
I still think Yates should have ridden Vuelta instead (Talking about Simon ofc, I couldn't care less about the British version of Gerrans). Maybe he is aiming for a peak for Lombardia and co. late in the season? I think he should give Lombardia a real go, because it suits Yates a lot.
 
One thing about the Yates boys is if they do a poor ITT, they don't improve the following days, whereas riders do a poor ITT and then bounce backin the mountains - Think Adam needs to rest up tomorrow and look for breaks next week. ,
 
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Great win by Simon. The team is lucky they take him to the Tour.

His brother... I hope he does understand now that he isn’t a GC rider in a grand tour. Lost many time today, probably wants to go for a stage now?
 
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Oliver said:
Great win by Simon. The team is lucky they take him to the Tour.

His brother... I hope he does understand now that he isn’t a GC rider in a grand tour. Lost many time today, probably wants to go for a stage now?
He finished 4th when he was still riding for white. Of course he is a GC rider. Just not likely a GC winner.
 
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Singer01 said:
Oliver said:
Great win by Simon. The team is lucky they take him to the Tour.

His brother... I hope he does understand now that he isn’t a GC rider in a grand tour. Lost many time today, probably wants to go for a stage now?
He finished 4th when he was still riding for white. Of course he is a GC rider. Just not likely a GC winner.
Not a GC rider at a GT - He's talented enough for short stage races and one day races.
 
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Oliver said:
Great win by Simon. The team is lucky they take him to the Tour.

His brother... I hope he does understand now that he isn’t a GC rider in a grand tour. Lost many time today, probably wants to go for a stage now?
Adam sat up today so he has freedom for next week.
 

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