Caffiene Withdrawal

[SundayRider]

Anyone else suffered from this? I tried cold turkey a while ago and got the worst headaches I've ever had, trying to just reduce gradually this time and switching to teas and herbal teas. I must be quite affected by caffeine as I only tend to drink 2-3 cups per day max.

 

[ebandit]

addict

i don't smoke.............don't drink much.................but i'm a complete
caffeine addict...........i drink tea / coffee all day............i guess 8 pint
mugs

surprisingly i am sensitive to caffeine ( double expressos send my head spinning ) so i take my tea / coffee black but weak

i always intend to cut back but never do.........times when i have run out
of tea and coffee and forgotten to buy replacement at the supermarket i think? no problem i can go a few days without

but i can't i go completely 'cold turkey' i feel truly ill! headaches and disorientated

i'm surprised you feel similar with low consumption

 

[JayKosta]

caffiene withdrawl trouble is fairly common, symptoms include bad headache, migraine, and flu-like pain.

Just cut-back slowly - going 'cold turkey' is looking for trouble.

Jay Kosta
Endwell NY USA

 

[SundayRider]

Thanks for the replies guys. I must be quite susceptible to caffeine because I only have/used to have 2-3 cups of espresso coffee and maybe couple cups of tea. I've switched to green tea which has about half as much caffeine as coffee. It was about two months ago when I went cold turkey and the headache was hell, like my brain was being hit with a sledgehammer. Also I'm off work at the moment so it's easier to manage.

 

[lostintime]

"Withdrawl" symtoms are really of the mind . If you imagine there is a "withdrawl" to experince .... you will.

I go with , or without coffee for long periods of time without any "effects" as I simply don't feed the belief of "addiction" and "withdrawl" .

It's largely a mass conditioned belief of "addiction". We keep repeating that there is addiction so many times we beleive it to be in literally every aspect of our lives. Do question it ! Change it as you wish

 

[SundayRider]

Lostintime- not sure I agree entirely, I know psychology is a powerful thing but when I've quit cold turkey in the past I wish I could have 'imagined' the headaches away purely by not believing in withdrawals!

 

[Polyarmour]

I drink 2-3 cups a day. I've tried to give it up cold turkey and had the same problem with headaches. It's physiological, definitely not in the mind. I did get it down to 1 cup per day once but then I really do enjoy a coffee after a ride and I'm not sure that my intake is doing me any harm?

 

[marathon marke]

"Withdrawl" symtoms are really of the mind . If you imagine there is a "withdrawl" to experince .... you will.

I go with , or without coffee for long periods of time without any "effects" as I simply don't feed the belief of "addiction" and "withdrawl" .

It's largely a mass conditioned belief of "addiction". We keep repeating that there is addiction so many times we beleive it to be in literally every aspect of our lives. Do question it ! Change it as you wish

This post must be the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time.

 

[Flux Capacity]

I tried to give it up a while ago when I was getting acid reflux. The headaches weren't too bad; I struggled more with lethargy and feeling a bit 'sad'. I went from drinking at least 6 or 7 pretty strong instants, plus one or two 'traveler' cappuccinos every day.

I was drinking so much for a pretty dumb reason: because coffee gets ya bowels moving, I'd sink 3 or 4 strong cups in hours leading up to my ride, so I'd be nice and 'empty' while training or racing.

After quitting for about a week, I couldn't stand it any longer, so I starting have 2 cups a day with an antacid, and it seems to be working. I like to think I could've pushed through and quit totally, but I didn't wanna.

Captain Janeway said this about coffee in the last episode (I think) of Voyager: "I don't know why I ever gave this up." I don't wanna be 'that' guy, the guy who finds out in 20 years that 3 cups a day of coffee is good for us, and he denied himself 20 years of pleasure.

I gotta tell ya, enjoying only 2 cups a day is total heaven, because I obviously appreciate it much more. Sometimes I wait a while before having my first cup in the morning , so I'm really hanging out for it, and when I take that first sip, man, it's awesome. I usually have another around mid-evening, some time after my ride, to stop myself dozing off on the couch too early

 

[Joachim]

I've only managed to give the stuff up once, in 2007, whilst preparing for Paris-Brest-Paris.

On the first night of the ride it was freezing cold and ****ing with rain, people were already quitting the event, and the forecast foretold 60 hours of non-stop misery. At about 3am, I stopped by a café that was handing out coffees. Nothing special, just a tiny paper cup of instant coffee.

They might as well have just given me a massive toke on a crack pipe.

It's a strong drug.

 

[Athame]

You know, I'm not certain what's up with the withdraw pains.
I love coffee and drink about 3 12oz coffees a day but sometimes
I go for several days with out it, for no real reason I should add.

I notice that about 1 out of every 3 or 4 prolonged periods of no
coffee I get the withdraw hard. Otherwise, I just don't get it. Strange.

 

[Joachim]

I used to be able to drink coffee and go straight to sleep afterwards. Now, if I have a coffee after 5pm I won't get to sleep before 1am.

I can't drink much alcohol either, these days

 

[lostintime]

This post must be the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time.

No more/less than ridiculous than suffering needlessly .

Imagining creates reality. Yes. Read it twice. There is not one thing of this world that was not imagined first. Think about it. We can do nothing without imagining it first..... so How we imagination .... is everything ! So to dismiss imagination as "just" imagination is like saying I "just" exist. Imagination is the spark of all life .... without it there is nothing .... and none of "this" would exist.

Dare to think outside the box of fear and doubt .. or not . Imagine the feeling of drinking coffee for the joy it ... and no suffering . Joy does not come at costs ... unless we imagine a "price to pay". The "mainstream" fills our imagination with all these conflicting thoughts .... Coffee is good .. no .. it's bad. It casues this ... no it prevents that. Really ? Decide for yourself. Challenging ? Yes. Challenge your beleifs that you buy into. WTF am I here for .... A Good Challenge !

BTW .. Imagining and athletic performance .... read up on the training methods of one Jim Thorpe. How would spend hours working out ..... on his hammock.... imaging his movements

 

[Tapeworm]

You should tell babies born of heroin addicts that what they are going through is all in their head. I am sure if the wee bubs believed a little harder they wouldn't suffer the effects of this obviously imagined state.

 

[Joachim]

No more/less than ridiculous than suffering needlessly .

Imagining creates reality. Yes. Read it twice. There is not one thing of this world that was not imagined first. Think about it. We can do nothing without imagining it first..... so How we imagination .... is everything ! So to dismiss imagination as "just" imagination is like saying I "just" exist. Imagination is the spark of all life .... without it there is nothing .... and none of "this" would exist.

Dare to think outside the box of fear and doubt .. or not . Imagine the feeling of drinking coffee for the joy it ... and no suffering . Joy does not come at costs ... unless we imagine a "price to pay". The "mainstream" fills our imagination with all these conflicting thoughts .... Coffee is good .. no .. it's bad. It casues this ... no it prevents that. Really ? Decide for yourself. Challenging ? Yes. Challenge your beleifs that you buy into. WTF am I here for .... A Good Challenge !

BTW .. Imagining and athletic performance .... read up on the training methods of one Jim Thorpe. How would spend hours working out ..... on his hammock.... imaging his movements

You've been imagining smoking weed, haven't you

 

[lostintime]

You should tell babies born of heroin addicts that what they are going through is all in their head. I am sure if the wee bubs believed a little harder they wouldn't suffer the effects of this obviously imagined state.

It's forever enlightening when one brings up the most horrible thing they can imagine ... as if to say ... "if there is rationale to this world ... why do such things exist?" . And use it as a defense to deflect their own discomfort of their sense of helplessness. So what answer could I offer for you to drop your defence of your own sense of helplessness ? Well, that's just it .... "our own sense of helplessness"..... is reflected back to us in infinite ways. Hence ... we wiil see and experience the horrors of the world we believe it to be. So I blame no one ... no-thing . Any finger I point I point within. Any defense I offer ... I hide from myself.

Imagination is not simply "in your head" ... it is your soul ... your heart. This world of illusion , drama and action blinds us to embracing these. Saying it's "just imagination" is the same as discounting your very self to the core . . . . which is what the "horrors of the world" serve their purpose as ...... to awaken ourselves ... to ourselves so we may assist others awaken to themselves.

Believe me ... beleive me not .... it's okay. I have lived "hell" ... as we all live have and do. "Hell" is not some silly place of comdemnation ..... it is a "state of self doubt" . Where you beleive yourself to be at the mercy of powers as all outside of yourself. We have the power ... the power to choose .. to imagine a better life ... imagine the feelings of a better world for ourselves and all around us. Imagine a world we are not slaves to any-one and any-thing. Everything is possible .... and the only reason it seems like that is false ... is we persist in imagine the feeling of a life where it is not. To imagine the feeling of a better life ... what does it cost ? It's free.... you can do it any time.. and it pays forward tenfold. How do we invest our time ? Watching TV to buy things you don't even want ? What are we investing in for ourselves ?

Cheers

 

[Joachim]

Care to define what you understand as being your 'soul'?

 

[The GCW]

Get monkey off back.

One thing that can help end caffeine addiction, even cold turkey, is using Excedrin or other pain relievers (including generic) which has caffeine. The goal is to use it to ward off headaches. I've used it for a day or 2 and it helped.

Don't substitute tea that has caffeine. Tea often has more caffeine than coffee.

I believe espresso has less caffeine than coffee. I'm back to drinking espresso and when I drink coffee it can give Me the jitters more easily.

-0-

You know what caffeine is good for? Caffeine withdrawal...

 

[lostintime]

Care to define what you understand as being your 'soul'?

Joachim, I find your question wonderfully profound.

So I ask myself ... what is my "soul" ? My "soul" ..... paradoxically ... is my imagination. .. and what is my imagination .... but a perspective reflection of the totality of "all that is". There is no limit to the imagination !!!! Anything that can be imagined .. IS .. on some level. I may or may not fully understand it .... but it exists. Why, because I exist.... and as I exist .... it must exist becasue for me to be aware of anything means some-one is in relation to some-thing.

Whatever I declare "I AM" this or that as ..... that becomes the perspective I pereive the world from. This is a Universal Law of "you get back what you put out". IT's called "a law" ... not in the silly arbritatrary sense .... but in that it cannot be "deceived". It's inescapable. You could call it ... the Law of The Mirror..... and life is that mirror... always refelcting the movements we put into it. No matter how you move.. the image of the mirror moves. No matter how we think(conscious and unconscious) .... the mirror of life reflects that thinking.


Yes .. I understand all of this may seem "unrelated" to this question of caffeine and cycling. Yet ... this is life. RIght here and now. Cycing is life , just like every moment is. I'm all for living a better life . I cannot change my circumstances of my life without me changing my images of myself living it first. (the mirror). Every moment can be used to imagine a better feeling life. Just imagine the feeling of "no headaches" .... of being the cyclist and person in any way I'd like to be. That's all I expressing here ....

 

[Joachim]

Can I hire you for dinner parties?

I have some friends who sometimes overstay their welcome

 

[lostintime]

Hahahaaha !!!! Excellent Joachim

This is but an hors d'oeuvre to the buffet

Some find it delightful .... others undigestable

IS-ness IS

choosing from the menu of all-that-IS and getting to taste what you ordered

 

[darkcloud]

it's good for you

I don't wanna be 'that' guy, the guy who finds out in 20 years that 3 cups a day of coffee is good for us, and he denied himself 20 years of pleasure.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/article...etes-parkinsons-disease-alzheimers-heart.htm:)
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-drinking-as-much-coffee-as-you-like/265693/:)
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/coffee-new-health-food:)

 

[Flux Capacity]

^ Ha! Thanks. I thought they were gunna go the other way, but no.
It looks like 1 or 2 of the links have gone, but I had a quick look at them last week