Can we have a list of people we think the FDA should question

[blackcat]

I know Jamison stuffed Steffan, but in Texas McCRae did an amateur bout MMA.

 

[wattage]

What are the actual chances of someone to start spilling the beans when feds are asking hard questions?

 

[dsut4392]

This list is short a few Aussies.
Phil Anderson
Allan Davis
Matt White
Trent Lowe
Patrick Jonker

[NB plenty of other Aussies that could be named, many far more directly tainted, but going for the direct associations with Motorola/USPS/Disco only here. The AIS deserves it's own thread...]

PS Blackcat,

"see most recent post on page 8, for the updated list "

could you refer to the post number instead of the page, some like I who change the number of posts displayed per page are only seeing 3 pages...

 

[Condorman]

Graham Watson isn't on the list.

Maybe it should be sorted alphabetically by surname?

 

[vrusimov]

...it would be interesting to hear what Contador and Leipheimer have to say about this business...Contador rode for Bruyneel for three years and if it is proven that Bruyneel ran the world's best doping program then maybe Contador was just in the wrong place at the wrong time TWICE in his career?...then you have another tour winner under serious suspicion...

...and if this comes to pass then every single tour champion since Indurain [armstrong included] is on the chopping block...save maybe Sastre? and Periero?

...incredibly, you'd have Bruyneel choreographing the last 10 years of the tour because everyone knows if Contador competes in '08 he'd have beaten Sastre...a dominant run for a director sportif yes?

...think about it over a doughnut and a latte'...

...interesting, very interesting...and would'nt it be something if the last man standing after all this potential carnage is Mr. Greg LeMond...

 

[blackcat]

This list is short a few Aussies.
Phil Anderson
Allan Davis
Matt White
Trent Lowe
Patrick Jonker

[NB plenty of other Aussies that could be named, many far more directly tainted, but going for the direct associations with Motorola/USPS/Disco only here. The AIS deserves it's own thread...]

PS Blackcat,
could you refer to the post number instead of the page, some like I who change the number of posts displayed per page are only seeing 3 pages...

I dont know, cant have everyone. Jonker went from Rabo to USPS but never rode the Tour. Davis came in, what, late 2007, to Disco. Armstrong was long gone. Lowe was small fry. Cant expect them to interview Fuyu Li or Beppu, yeah, they might know something. Matt White is named, cos Landis has fingered him, and he is the lead DS on Garmin.

 

[blackcat]

Tom Weisel
Dan Osipow
Mark Gorski
Jim Ochowicz
Bill Stapleton
Bart Knaggs
Chris Brewer

Johan Bruyneel - Belgian
Dirk Demol - Belgian
Sean Yates - English

Dr. Michele Ferrari (preparatore par excellence) - Italian

Dr. Luis del Moral Garcia (USPS team doctor) - Spanish
Dr. Jose Marti (USPS team doctor) - Spanish

Jeff Spencer (chiropractor)

Chris Carmichael
Dr. Max Testa - Italian/US citizen
Dr. Allen Lim (doctor of physiology)
Dr. Eric Heiden

Dr. Prentice Steffen

Floyd Landis*
Tyler Hamilton*
Frankie Andreu*
Alberto Contador
Jose Luis Rubiera - Spanish
Jonathan Vaughters
Kevin Livingston
Marty Jemison
Steve Swart - New Zealander
Dave Zabriskie
George Hincapie
Levi Leipheimer*
Roberto Heras* - Spanish
Viatcheslav Ekimov (director) - Russian
Jose Azevedo - Spanish
Manuel Beltran* - Spanish
Benjamin Noval - Spanish
Pavel Padrnos - Czech
Christian Vandevelde
Chris Horner
Robbie Ventura (also Landis' coach)
Cedric Vasseur (also UCI Riders' Association President) - French
Chann Mcrae
Jason McCartney
Matt White (director) - Australian
Tom Danielson
Phil Anderson - Australian
Bobby Julich
Ryder Hesjedal - Canadian
Michael Barry - Canadian
Benoit Joachim* - Luxembourgish
Gianpaolo Mondini* - Italian
David Clinger*
Axel Merkx (director espoirs, former Motorola, Ferrari disciple, and Tour top 10) - Belgian
Jamie Burrow - English
Michael Creed
Víctor Hugo Peña - Colombian
Tom Boonen* - Belgian
Vladimir Gusev* - Russian
Julian Dean - New Zealander
Antonio Cruz
Steve Bauer - Canadian
Damon Kluck
Kenny Labbé
Dylan Casey
Andrea Peron - Italian
Max Sciandri - Italian/English
Saul Raisin
John Devine
Jonathan McCarty

Dr. Don Caitlin
Dr. Rasmus Damsgaard - Danish
Dr. Jakob Morkeberg (doctor of physiology) - Danish
Dr. Bo Belhage (doctor of physiology) - Danish
Professor Werner Franke - German
Paul Scott

Emma O'Reilly (soigneur) - Irish
Shelley Verses (soigneur)
Freddy Viaene (soigneur w/ real specialty dexterity w/ hypodermics) - Belgian
Ryszard Kielpinski (soigneur) - Polish (?)
Ron Jungen (soigneur) - Dutch
Fran Contador - Spanish

Kristin Armstrong
Sheryl Crow
Lisa Shields
Anna Hansen
Stephanie McIlvain
Betsy Andreu
Linda Armstrong
Kristin Johnson (former wife of Tom Danielson)

Geert Duffelaar (RadioShack adminstration/speculation drug mule/also team chef) - Belgian

Michael Anderson (mechanic)
Julien de Vriese (mechanic) - Dutch

Serge Borlee (bodyguard) - Belgian
USPS busdriver (2004 Tour)
Peter Park (personal trainer)
Liz Kreutz (personal photographer)
Graham Watson (photographer)

John Korioth (Armstrong posse)
Dave Bolch (Armstrong posse)
Derek Russey (Armstrong posse)

Peter Park (personal trainer)
Liz Kreutz (personal photographer)
Graham Watson (photographer)

Anne Gripper - Australian
Sylvia Schenk - German

Pat McQuaid - Irish
Hein Verbruggen - Dutch
D!ck Pound - Canadian
Patrice Clerc (ASO head forced out in putsch) - French
Jean-Etienne Amaury - French
Jean Marie Leblanc - French
Christian Prudhomme - French
Emile Vrijman - Dutch
Mike Fraysse

David Walsh - Irish
Pierre Ballester - French
Damien Ressiot - French
Paul Kimmage - Irish

Greg Lemond

Andy Rihs - Swiss
John LeLangue - Belgian

Paul Sherwen (also former Motorola communications officer)
Bob Roll (Beech Mountain)
Phil Liggett - English

Eddy Merckx (introduction to Ferrari)* - Belgian

John Burke (Trek)

*indicates riders have had unofficial or official positive sample to PED or recreational

US citizens unless noted.

 

[blackcat]

TubularGlue, wanna stick this on the OP now, and we will try and update the OP if another few additions come thru

 

[blackcat]

Tom Weisel
Dan Osipow
Mark Gorski
Jim Ochowicz
Bill Stapleton
Bart Knaggs
Chris Brewer

Johan Bruyneel - Belgian
Dirk Demol - Belgian
Sean Yates - English

Dr. Michele Ferrari (preparatore par excellence) - Italian

Dr. Luis del Moral Garcia (USPS team doctor) - Spanish
Dr. Jose Marti (USPS team doctor) - Spanish

Jeff Spencer (chiropractor)

Chris Carmichael
Dr. Max Testa - Italian/US citizen
Dr. Allen Lim (doctor of physiology)
Dr. Eric Heiden

Dr. Prentice Steffen

Floyd Landis*
Tyler Hamilton*
Frankie Andreu*
Alberto Contador
Jose Luis Rubiera - Spanish
Jonathan Vaughters
Kevin Livingston
Marty Jemison
Steve Swart - New Zealander
Dave Zabriskie
George Hincapie
Levi Leipheimer*
Roberto Heras* - Spanish
Viatcheslav Ekimov (director) - Russian
Jose Azevedo - Spanish
Manuel Beltran* - Spanish
Benjamin Noval - Spanish
Pavel Padrnos - Czech
Christian Vandevelde
Chris Horner
Robbie Ventura (also Landis' coach)
Cedric Vasseur (also UCI Riders' Association President) - French
Chann Mcrae
Jason McCartney
Matt White (director) - Australian
Tom Danielson
Phil Anderson - Australian
Bobby Julich
Ryder Hesjedal - Canadian
Michael Barry - Canadian
Benoit Joachim* - Luxembourgish
Gianpaolo Mondini* - Italian
David Clinger*
Axel Merkx (director espoirs, former Motorola, Ferrari disciple, and Tour top 10) - Belgian
Jamie Burrow - English
Michael Creed
Víctor Hugo Peña - Colombian
Tom Boonen* - Belgian
Vladimir Gusev* - Russian
Julian Dean - New Zealander
Antonio Cruz
Steve Bauer - Canadian
Damon Kluck
Kenny Labbé
Dylan Casey
Andrea Peron - Italian
Max Sciandri - Italian/English
Saul Raisin
John Devine
Jonathan McCarty

Dr. Don Caitlin
Dr. Rasmus Damsgaard - Danish
Dr. Jakob Morkeberg (doctor of physiology) - Danish
Dr. Bo Belhage (doctor of physiology) - Danish
Professor Werner Franke - German
Paul Scott

Emma O'Reilly (soigneur) - Irish
Shelley Verses (soigneur)
Freddy Viaene (soigneur w/ real specialty dexterity w/ hypodermics) - Belgian
Ryszard Kielpinski (soigneur) - Polish (?)
Ron Jungen (soigneur) - Dutch
Fran Contador - Spanish

Kristin Armstrong
Sheryl Crow
Lisa Shields
Anna Hansen
Stephanie McIlvain
Betsy Andreu
Linda Armstrong
Kristin Johnson (former wife of Tom Danielson)

Geert Duffelaar (RadioShack adminstration/speculation drug mule/also team chef) - Belgian

Michael Anderson (mechanic)
Julien de Vriese (mechanic) - Dutch

Serge Borlee (bodyguard) - Belgian
USPS busdriver (2004 Tour)
Peter Park (personal trainer)
Liz Kreutz (personal photographer)
Graham Watson (photographer)

John Korioth (Armstrong posse)
Dave Bolch (Armstrong posse)
Derek Russey (Armstrong posse)

Peter Park (personal trainer)
Liz Kreutz (personal photographer)
Graham Watson (photographer)

Anne Gripper - Australian
Sylvia Schenk - German

Pat McQuaid - Irish
Hein Verbruggen - Dutch
D!ck Pound - Canadian
Patrice Clerc (ASO head forced out in putsch) - French
Jean-Etienne Amaury - French
Jean Marie Leblanc - French
Christian Prudhomme - French
Emile Vrijman - Dutch
Mike Fraysse

David Walsh - Irish
Pierre Ballester - French
Damien Ressiot - French
Paul Kimmage - Irish

Greg Lemond

Andy Rihs - Swiss
John LeLangue - Belgian

Paul Sherwen (also former Motorola communications officer)
Bob Roll (Beech Mountain)
Phil Liggett - English

Eddy Merckx (introduction to Ferrari)* - Belgian

John Burke (Trek)

*indicates riders have had unofficial or official positive sample to PED or recreational

US citizens unless noted.

 

[hektoren]

Michael Ashenden

 

[Condorman]

Duplication on the list ...

Peter Park (personal trainer)
Liz Kreutz (personal photographer)
Graham Watson (photographer)

John Korioth (Armstrong posse)
Dave Bolch (Armstrong posse)
Derek Russey (Armstrong posse)

Peter Park (personal trainer)
Liz Kreutz (personal photographer)
Graham Watson (photographer)

 

[bobbins]

Don't Yates and Sherwen need an asterisk?

 

[python]

how come popovich is not on anyone's list ?

or did i miss it ?

he's a very bubbly chap who craves microphones and attention.

oh and what about lance's mother ?

 

[Ferminal]

Don't Yates and Sherwen need an asterisk?

Phil Anderson too?

 

[blackcat]

Tom Weisel
Dan Osipow
Mark Gorski
Jim Ochowicz
Bill Stapleton
Bart Knaggs
Chris Brewer

Johan Bruyneel - Belgian
Dirk Demol - Belgian
Sean Yates* - English

Dr. Michele Ferrari (preparatore par excellence) - Italian

Dr. Luis del Moral Garcia (USPS team doctor) - Spanish
Dr. Jose Marti (USPS team doctor) - Spanish

Jeff Spencer (chiropractor)

Chris Carmichael
Dr. Max Testa - Italian/US citizen
Dr. Allen Lim (doctor of physiology)
Dr. Eric Heiden

Dr. Prentice Steffen

Floyd Landis*
Tyler Hamilton*
Frankie Andreu*
Alberto Contador
Jose Luis Rubiera - Spanish
Jonathan Vaughters
Kevin Livingston
Marty Jemison
Steve Swart - New Zealander
Dave Zabriskie
George Hincapie
Levi Leipheimer*
Roberto Heras* - Spanish
Viatcheslav Ekimov (director) - Russian
Jose Azevedo - Spanish
Manuel Beltran* - Spanish
Benjamin Noval - Spanish
Pavel Padrnos - Czech
Yaroslav Popovych - Ukrainian
Christian Vandevelde
Chris Horner
Robbie Ventura (also Landis' coach)
Cedric Vasseur (also UCI Riders' Association President) - French
Chann Mcrae
Jason McCartney
Matt White (director) - Australian
Tom Danielson
Phil Anderson* - Australian
Bobby Julich
Ryder Hesjedal - Canadian
Michael Barry - Canadian
Benoit Joachim* - Luxembourgish
Gianpaolo Mondini* - Italian
David Clinger*
Axel Merkx (director espoirs, former Motorola, Ferrari disciple, and Tour top 10) - Belgian
Jamie Burrow - English
Michael Creed
Víctor Hugo Peña - Colombian
Tom Boonen* - Belgian
Vladimir Gusev* - Russian
Julian Dean - New Zealander
Antonio Cruz
Steve Bauer - Canadian
Damon Kluck
Kenny Labbé
Dylan Casey
Andrea Peron - Italian
Max Sciandri - Italian/English
Saul Raisin
John Devine
Jonathan McCarty
Taylor Phinney

Dr. Don Caitlin
Dr. Rasmus Damsgaard - Danish
Dr. Jakob Morkeberg (doctor of physiology) - Danish
Dr. Bo Belhage (doctor of physiology) - Danish
Dr. Michael Ashenden (doctor of physiology) - Australian
Professor Werner Franke - German
Paul Scott

Emma O'Reilly (soigneur) - Irish
Shelley Verses (soigneur)
Freddy Viaene (soigneur w/ real specialty dexterity w/ hypodermics) - Belgian
Ryszard Kielpinski (soigneur) - Polish (?)
Ron Jungen (soigneur) - Dutch
Fran Contador - Spanish

Kristin Armstrong
Sheryl Crow
Lisa Shields
Anna Hansen
Stephanie McIlvain
Betsy Andreu
Linda Armstrong
Kristin Johnson (former wife of Tom Danielson)

Geert Duffelaar (RadioShack adminstration/speculation drug mule/also team chef) - Belgian

Michael Anderson (mechanic)
Julien de Vriese (mechanic) - Dutch

Serge Borlee (bodyguard) - Belgian
USPS busdriver (2004 Tour)
Peter Park (personal trainer)
Liz Kreutz (personal photographer)
Graham Watson (photographer)

John Korioth (Armstrong posse)
Dave Bolch (Armstrong posse)
Derek Russey (Armstrong posse)

Peter Park (personal trainer)
Liz Kreutz (personal photographer)
Graham Watson (photographer)

Anne Gripper - Australian
Sylvia Schenk - German

Pat McQuaid - Irish
Hein Verbruggen - Dutch
D!ck Pound - Canadian
Patrice Clerc (ASO head forced out in putsch) - French
Jean-Etienne Amaury - French
Jean Marie Leblanc - French
Christian Prudhomme - French
Emile Vrijman - Dutch
Mike Fraysse

David Walsh - Irish
Pierre Ballester - French
Damien Ressiot - French
Paul Kimmage - Irish

Greg Lemond

Andy Rihs - Swiss
John LeLangue - Belgian

Paul Sherwen (also former Motorola communications officer)
Bob Roll (Beech Mountain)
Phil Liggett - English

Eddy Merckx (introduction to Ferrari)* - Belgian

John Burke (Trek)

*indicates riders have had unofficial or official positive sample to PED or recreational

US citizens unless noted.

 

[2beacoup]

Lil' prince Phinney?

 

[tubularglue]

David Walsh
Paul Kimmage


can we have a list of authors, journalists


thanks

 

[Parrot23]

Dr. Luis del Moral Garcia (USPS team doctor) - Spanish
Dr. Jose Marti (USPS team doctor) - Spanish

Yes, it will be these type of faceless doctors (and there must be others), not the stars and and well-known coaches/physiologistst etc. who are the public face of the team, who will have the goods.

There must be more. What about Discovery, anyone?

Problem is if they're foreign, U.S. FDA etc. won't have any authority over them? And we all know how "keen" the Spanish are to deal with doping Spanish doctors.

It's the unknown, barely recognizable team doctors who will have administered the transfusions and all of that stuff. The others are a sideshow, I would think. Time to get suspicious about doctors gone bad.

 

[tubularglue]

Alan Gallopin (director)

what other teams has he been with ?

curious

does he date back to Mercury with Van Petegem / Floyd etc.

 

[blackcat]

dont know if that is right. Freddy knows his way around a hypodermic

 

[blackcat]

Alan Gallopin (director)

what other teams has he been with ?

curious

Cervelo Test Team

 

[blackcat]

Tom Weisel
Dan Osipow
Mark Gorski
Jim Ochowicz
Bill Stapleton
Bart Knaggs
Chris Brewer

Johan Bruyneel - Belgian
Dirk Demol - Belgian
Sean Yates* - English
Alain Gallopin - French

Dr. Michele Ferrari (preparatore par excellence) - Italian

Dr. Luis del Moral Garcia (USPS team doctor) - Spanish
Dr. Jose Marti (USPS team doctor) - Spanish

Jeff Spencer (chiropractor)

Chris Carmichael
Dr. Max Testa - Italian/US citizen
Dr. Allen Lim (doctor of physiology)
Dr. Eric Heiden
Dr. Ed Coyle (doctor of physiology)

Dr. Prentice Steffen

Floyd Landis*
Tyler Hamilton*
Frankie Andreu*
Alberto Contador
Jose Luis Rubiera - Spanish
Jonathan Vaughters
Kevin Livingston
Marty Jemison
Steve Swart - New Zealander
Dave Zabriskie
George Hincapie
Levi Leipheimer*
Roberto Heras* - Spanish
Viatcheslav Ekimov (director) - Russian
Jose Azevedo - Spanish
Manuel Beltran* - Spanish
Benjamin Noval - Spanish
Pavel Padrnos* - Czech
Yaroslav Popovych - Ukrainian
Christian Vandevelde
Chris Horner
Robbie Ventura (also Landis' coach)
Cedric Vasseur (also UCI Riders' Association President) - French
Chann Mcrae
Jason McCartney
Matt White (director) - Australian
Tom Danielson
Phil Anderson* - Australian
Bobby Julich
Ryder Hesjedal - Canadian
Michael Barry - Canadian
Benoit Joachim* - Luxembourgish
Gianpaolo Mondini* - Italian
David Clinger*
Axel Merkx (director espoirs, former Motorola, Ferrari disciple, and Tour top 10) - Belgian
Jamie Burrow - English
Michael Creed
Víctor Hugo Peña - Colombian
Tom Boonen* - Belgian
Vladimir Gusev* - Russian
Julian Dean - New Zealander
Antonio Cruz
Steve Bauer - Canadian
Damon Kluck
Kenny Labbé
Dylan Casey
Andrea Peron - Italian
Max Sciandri - Italian/English
Saul Raisin
John Devine
Jonathan McCarty
Taylor Phinney

Dr. Don Caitlin
Dr. Rasmus Damsgaard - Danish
Dr. Jakob Morkeberg (doctor of physiology) - Danish
Dr. Bo Belhage (doctor of physiology) - Danish
Dr. Michael Ashenden (doctor of physiology) - Australian
Professor Werner Franke - German
Paul Scott

Emma O'Reilly (soigneur) - Irish
Shelley Verses (soigneur)
Freddy Viaene (soigneur w/ real specialty dexterity w/ hypodermics) - Belgian
Ryszard Kielpinski (soigneur) - Polish (?)
Ron Jungen (soigneur) - Dutch
Fran Contador - Spanish

Kristin Armstrong
Sheryl Crow
Lisa Shields
Anna Hansen
Stephanie McIlvain
Betsy Andreu
Linda Armstrong
Kristin Johnson (former wife of Tom Danielson)

Geert Duffelaar (RadioShack adminstration/speculation drug mule/also team chef) - Belgian

Michael Anderson (mechanic)
Julien de Vriese (mechanic) - Dutch

Serge Borlee (bodyguard) - Belgian
USPS busdriver (2004 Tour)
Peter Park (personal trainer)
Liz Kreutz (personal photographer)
Graham Watson (photographer)

John Korioth (Armstrong posse)
Dave Bolch (Armstrong posse)
Derek Russey (Armstrong posse)

Peter Park (personal trainer)
Liz Kreutz (personal photographer)
Graham Watson (photographer)
Dan Coyle (author)

Anne Gripper - Australian
Sylvia Schenk - German

Pat McQuaid - Irish
Hein Verbruggen - Dutch
D!ck Pound - Canadian
Patrice Clerc (ASO head forced out in putsch) - French
Jean-Etienne Amaury - French
Jean Marie Leblanc - French
Christian Prudhomme - French
Emile Vrijman - Dutch
Mike Fraysse

David Walsh - Irish
Pierre Ballester - French
Damien Ressiot - French
Paul Kimmage - Irish

Greg Lemond

Andy Rihs - Swiss
John LeLangue - Belgian

Paul Sherwen* (also former Motorola communications officer) - English
Bob Roll (Beech Mountain)
Phil Liggett - English

Eddy Merckx (introduction to Ferrari)* - Belgian

John Burke (Trek)

*indicates riders have had unofficial or official positive sample to PED or recreational

US citizens unless noted.

 

[Parrot23]

LOL, but USPS and Discovery prided themselves on their professionalism, the total program (not gonna have guys sticking themselves with needles and withdrawing blood, etc.)

"We gotta do this right" kind of thing. Control, quality, control. This would have extended to their doctors. May be their undoing.

 

[tubularglue]

Andreu was also a Postal director for a year after he stopped racing. What year was that?

He was stateside

 

[blackcat]

2001 but StrongArm low-balled him as always