Cancellara, ungraceful loser.

[sublimit]

What did he expect Nuyens to do just sit up and let him win?

Nuyens will be remembered as a winner and Cancellara a sore loser of Flanders 2011 in 2000 years time.

 

[boomcie]

What did he expect Nuyens to do just sit up and let him win?

Nuyens will be remembered as a winner and Cancellara a sore loser of Flanders 2011 in 2000 years time.

Not sure of people will remember Nuyens in 2000 years. It is also highly unlikely anyone will remember the soreness by then

 

[greatking88]

what did he expect nuyens to do just sit up and let him win?

Nuyens will be remembered as a winner and cancellara a sore loser of flanders 2011 in 2000 years time.

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[sublimit]

Not sure of people will remember Nuyens in 2000 years. It is also highly unlikely anyone will remember the soreness by then

Yes maybe not, The world might of come to an end by then anyway.

The thing is with Nick Nuyens is he's bang on form and was strongest at Dwaars when he won easily the other day, under 23 champ at R-D-V a few years ago so the guy can ride.

Cancellara overestimated himself this time but maybe having O'Grady with him on Sunday will help. Who knows..

 

[Michael Brown]

Seems that a lot of people are more upset about this than Nick Nuyens is.

 

[Jamsque]

Why would Nuyens care, he won the Tour of Flanders!

 

[sublimit]

Indeed, probably has his feet up, smoking a cigar with a bottle of Leffe and eating chips with mayo while watching Eurosport.

Probably has the trophy there with him hopefully.

 

[Hmmmmm]

Both sides of the coin - that is what I see. Maybe Cancellara could use a dose of humility but at least he has the guts to attempt to win on his terms. Tactics? If he would have won then people would praise his tactics. He lost so he does not look so wise.

The written stuff is nothing but sound bites. Like I said, humility and awareness might be something that he could use a little more of but I do think he is aware of what others think of him but really does not care. I would not. He gets paid to ride hard and win.

Let's face it, this is not high school sports. At the professional level sportsmanship is different. Money is involved and the stakes are different. Nuyens won and I congratulate him. He crossed the line first and nobody can take that away from him. But winners and losers are entitled to comment or call a spade a spade as they see fit. Too many people are PC these days and I for one like people who have opinions and speak their mind. It's a competition, not sitting behind a desk trying to get along with your coworkers. To compete at the pro level you have to have some type of ego. If not, you might at well stay home instead of race.

 

[epo1999]

This is so funny. Some posters act like the true winner of the race is the rider who did the most work, used the most energy, showed the most bravado, etc... The winner is the rider who crosses the line first. If you have never raced then you may not know the feeling that a guy like Nuyens must have after racing above his regular level by being smart, watching the race, making efforts when he had to and staying cool when he could. Kudos to Nick! Well played!

 

[FignonLeGrand]

Nuyens did a Bradbury. Good luck to him, he has the win but respect is another thing.

Why wouldnt you respect him? He won the race. for that matter why wouldnt you respect all of them right down to Ronan Van Zandbeek who finished dead last.

Participating and finishing a race like this is an amazing acomplishment. Nuyens is a proffesional in a professional industry and as such he rode a perfect race.

It really frustrates me that people come on here and say he or they were rubbish for coming 8th or riding tactially, they are participating in a mammoth race and we should respect them all for doing their best.

 

[TRDean]

Why wouldnt you respect him? He won the race. for that matter why wouldnt you respect all of them right down to Ronan Van Zandbeek who finished dead last.

Participating and finishing a race like this is an amazing acomplishment. Nuyens is a proffesional in a professional industry and as such he rode a perfect race.

It really frustrates me that people come on here and say he or they were rubbish for coming 8th or riding tactially, they are participating in a mammoth race and we should respect them all for doing their best.

I couldn't agree more. Nuyens rode a great race...and it was a great race!

 

[spalco]

This is so funny. Some posters act like the true winner of the race is the rider who did the most work, used the most energy, showed the most bravado, etc... The winner is the rider who crosses the line first. If you have never raced then you may not know the feeling that a guy like Nuyens must have after racing above his regular level by being smart, watching the race, making efforts when he had to and staying cool when he could. Kudos to Nick! Well played!

And just cause he won I, as a fan, have to praise him? **** that. If the result is all that matters, I could just as well check the race's top10 in the newspaper the following day instead of watching for 4 hours.

 

[sublimit]

And just cause he won I, as a fan, have to praise him? **** that. If the result is all that matters, I could just as well check the race's top10 in the newspaper the following day instead of watching for 4 hours.

Its not compulsory. If you think Nuyens rode a rubbish race and Cancellara a great one on Sunday thats fine. Each to their own I suppose.

I hope you enjoyed Fabians performance.

 

[luckyboy]

Why wouldnt you respect him? He won the race. for that matter why wouldnt you respect all of them right down to Ronan Van Zandbeek who finished dead last.

Every time I sit on a bike it blows me away what these guys do.

 

[Polyarmour]

If you have never raced then you may not know the feeling that a guy like Nuyens must have after racing above his regular level by being smart, watching the race, making efforts when he had to and staying cool when he could. Kudos to Nick! Well played!

Yes I do race, every weekend. And nothing annoys me more than the guy whose ONLY strategy is to pick the strongest rider and suck his wheel. You might get enjoyment out of this but I'm sorry, I don't. If I won a race this way I would be embarrassed. It's a pi$$weak way of winning the race. It's like cheating on your exam and claiming you got an A.

 

[Cerberus]

Yes I do race, every weekend. And nothing annoys me more than the guy whose ONLY strategy is to pick the strongest rider and suck his wheel. You might get enjoyment out of this but I'm sorry, I don't. If I won a race this way I would be embarrassed. It's a pi$$weak way of winning the race. It's like cheating on your exam and claiming you got an A.

OK, but that's not what Nuyens did so what's you point?

 

[Benotti69]

Every time I sit on a bike it blows me away what these guys do.

absolutely.

 

[hfer07]

the problem with Cance's recent claims is that as arrogant as they surely sound, they are backed up by his ability to meet those goals. He might have downplayed the performance of some, even Guss for M-SR & Nuyens for the RVV winner, but he's right in pointing out that races won like that aren't the reflection of what took place during the fight, rather than a rare opportunity ceased.
I still like him, but for the betterment of his career, he should tone down those comments-because along the road, they might bite back bitterly at him when something goes wrong...

 

[Polyarmour]

Why wouldnt you respect him? He won the race. for that matter why wouldnt you respect all of them right down to Ronan Van Zandbeek who finished dead last.

Participating and finishing a race like this is an amazing acomplishment. Nuyens is a proffesional in a professional industry and as such he rode a perfect race.

It really frustrates me that people come on here and say he or they were rubbish for coming 8th or riding tactially, they are participating in a mammoth race and we should respect them all for doing their best.

I have respect for all the riders in the sense that you are talking about here, of course. What I would give to come last in the Ronde. I am referring to the winner. We all like to see the race pan out in a certain way. For me a deserving winner has a certain profile. Some people here believe the profile of a deserving winner includes the sneaky, fly under the radar, wheel sucking approach to racing. Each to their own I guess.

 

[Polyarmour]

OK, but that's not what Nuyens did so what's you point?

No?
You're right, I did see him take a turn for 5 seconds towards the end.
Other than that I think a helicopter could have dropped him off after the Bosberg and we'd be none the wiser.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Every time I sit on a bike it blows me away what these guys do.

Yup, I had that feeling today.

I sprinted at the FANTASTIC speed of 46 km/h... that would hardly be enough to lead the peloton in an amateur race. Let stand a pro race

 

[Cerberus]

No?
You're right, I did see him take a turn for 5 seconds towards the end.
Other than that I think a helicopter could have dropped him off after the Bosberg and we'd be none the wiser.

He marked exactly one move by Cancellara, and he'd attacked himself a few k earlier. If you don't think that weaker riders are allowed to try to win the race that's you privilege of cause, but if that's the case we can save the race and just declare Cancellara the winner beforehand.

 

[Angliru]

Yes I do race, every weekend. And nothing annoys me more than the guy whose ONLY strategy is to pick the strongest rider and suck his wheel. You might get enjoyment out of this but I'm sorry, I don't. If I won a race this way I would be embarrassed. It's a pi$$weak way of winning the race. It's like cheating on your exam and claiming you got an A.

No one is saying that you have to like it, but if you were in the same circumstances, strong enough to stay within reach of a good finish, and found yourself able to respond to an attack at a pivotal moment in the race, are we to understand that you would have simply sat in when the 3 way sprint was taking place? Simply sitting in the back and watching it unfold, making sure to hold true to your strong principles?

 

[ergmonkey]

You're right, I did see him take a turn for 5 seconds towards the end.
Other than that I think a helicopter could have dropped him off after the Bosberg and we'd be none the wiser.

The guy nearest the TV camera at the front of the bunch isn't necessarily the only one doing a ton of work--especially not in a Classic. To read your posts, it sounds almost like Nuyens did little more than Mario Cipollini would have done on a quiet Giro stage in the late '90s.

Nuyens, on the other hand, was an in-form rider on a so-so team fighting for position and frequently bridging gaps to stay near the front. And doing so in an aggressive, fast race over very challenging and narrow roads. Not exactly "p!ss weak" in my book.

 

[c&cfan]

Indeed he made the race, but he attacked from too far, and thereby he rode a bad race if he wanted to win.

Its ok to be confident, and u even need to be a little arrogant. But as other ppl have said great champions are gracious loosers. its ok that he said he made the race, and that he was the strongest our there, but he shouldnt trash the winner.

yes he should. after the finish line, he should go to nuyens and punch him in the face.

what is your problem? we need more cavs, cipos, cancs, armstrongs etc!! this is the real problem here! cycling is for hard men.. for killers! not pussies!

for example... if instead of hugging shleck, contador showed is midfinger to him, we would be sweating ourselfs next time it was a mano a mano between them. this is what we need: emotion! rage!

what do you want to make cycling better? riders like gilbert (in the road) sprinting instead of atacking just to blow themselfs up and lose all of the big races and them complaining against pozzatos? if they are not strong\talented\man enough thats their problem!

canc is the best ever TTr and one of the best ever one day riders. that combination in modern era makes him unique. he knows that. nobody can do what he does. so? whats wrong in knowing that and saying that?