Cannondale getting dropped in the new era of cycling

[CheckMyPecs]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/tour-de-france/tour-notebook-reading-olegs-mind-lemonds-sky-doubts_415091#4KoIuS9WeLPDV4gM.99

Cannondale – Drapac last in prize money race

So far, the Tour de France has dished out 645,750 euros ($715,200) in prize money through wins and placings through the first two weeks of racing. Leading the tally is Tinkoff, with 87,850 euros ($97,298). Dimension Data and Etixx – Quick-Step are second and third, with 76,990 euros and 57,790 euros, respectively. Sky is sixth, with 39,010 euros (a number that will rise dramatically if Chris Froome wins yellow in Paris). In last place? Cannondale—Drapac, which has earned only one top-10 finishes so far, with 5,720 euros ($6,335).

Should pay for a few cases of wine for JVs private collection?

That MBA really made things take on a downward curve for TeamVaughters.

It was a weird roster to bring to this tour. They brought a lot of guys to protect Rolland in the flat stages but that clearly backfired. This is going to make four grand tours in a row without a stage win for the team. That's pretty bad even for a low budget WT team. On the bright side, they're probably not going to have a lot of people accusing them of doping.

no, they got a win in 2014 with Navardauskas. I enjoyed that very much

2014 was more than 4 GTs ago.

 

[pastronef]

2014 was more than 4 GTs ago.

whoops, I was just thinking about France. yes, the last win was Formolo Giro 2015

 

[thehog]

VeloNews just making it up as they go along.... apparently Rolland was in breaks everyday..

What’s the lasting image from this year’s Tour?

Caley Fretz @caleyfretz: Froome running on Ventoux. It’s the easy, obvious answer, but that’s because it truly was something spectacular. We won’t see that kind of mayhem again anytime soon (we hope).

Personally, I’ll also remember a few smaller moments. Pierre Rolland with a possibly broken hand, jumping in breakaways until the end; Pete Stetina, in his first Tour back since his horrific knee injury, pulling toward Le Bettex for Bauke Mollema; Lawson Craddock holding his bike over his head and bellowing happiness on the Champs-Élysées after finishing his first Tour; Peter Sagan’s life coaching advice, “Tour is Tour, was like was.”

http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/commentary/tdf-roundtable-does-skys-dominance-warrant-a-rule-change_415904

 

[burning]

VeloNews just making it up as they go along.... apparently Rolland was in breaks everyday..

What’s the lasting image from this year’s Tour?

Caley Fretz @caleyfretz: Froome running on Ventoux. It’s the easy, obvious answer, but that’s because it truly was something spectacular. We won’t see that kind of mayhem again anytime soon (we hope).

Personally, I’ll also remember a few smaller moments. Pierre Rolland with a possibly broken hand, jumping in breakaways until the end; Pete Stetina, in his first Tour back since his horrific knee injury, pulling toward Le Bettex for Bauke Mollema; Lawson Craddock holding his bike over his head and bellowing happiness on the Champs-Élysées after finishing his first Tour; Peter Sagan’s life coaching advice, “Tour is Tour, was like was.”

http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/commentary/tdf-roundtable-does-skys-dominance-warrant-a-rule-change_415904

To be fair, he got into breaks in 3 mountain stages out of final 4 but he got simply outclassed by rest of the breaks in each time due to great training methods.

 

[thehog]

Looks like Rolland needs to re-deploy the training techniques from 1975 to get win? He can't even buy one at the moment.

 

[Benotti69]

Looks like Hugh Carthy has already taken on the Cannondale Drapac abilites at this Vuelta.

 

[hfer07]

Looks like Rolland needs to re-deploy the training techniques from 1975 to get win? He can't even buy one at the moment.

I was LOL when I heard Rolland speaking so eloquently on the "new induction gospel to cycling training techniques" by JV, and how revolutionary to him was to literally do "nothing" to save the legs for the GT's..........

In my book he's milking the cow and when it runs dry, he'll move back to FDJ, Codofis or the next best thing available

 

[thehog]

Looks like Rolland needs to re-deploy the training techniques from 1975 to get win? He can't even buy one at the moment.

I was LOL when I heard Rolland speaking so eloquently on the "new induction gospel to cycling training techniques" by JV, and how revolutionary to him was to literally do "nothing" to save the legs for the GT's..........

In my book he's milking the cow and when it runs dry, he'll move back to FDJ, Codidis or the next best thing available

Yes you just need to type the following string into Google "Vaughters, 1975, Rolland" and you get back :lol:

The amount of improvement that that guy still has available to him was astounding to us and our sports scientists,” Vaughters told VeloNews. “He was training like someone was training in 1975. He’s really made some big improvements and that will be interesting to see this season.

“We were able to make larger improvements than I’ve ever seen, even with continental riders we are not able to improve them that much. It was just a massive improvement in his aerodynamics. Hopefully that will translate to the road, we don’t know yet, not until the first time trial of the year.”

http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/01/news/vaughters-on-rolland-he-was-training-like-someone-was-training-in-1975_392667#HlHVkrE8VjdobOk4.99[/

 

[Archibald]

Looks like Rolland needs to re-deploy the training techniques from 1975 to get win? He can't even buy one at the moment.

I was LOL when I heard Rolland speaking so eloquently on the "new induction gospel to cycling training techniques" by JV, and how revolutionary to him was to literally do "nothing" to save the legs for the GT's..........

In my book he's milking the cow and when it runs dry, he'll move back to FDJ, Codidis or the next best thing available

Yes you just need to type the following string into Google "Vaughters, 1975, Rolland" and you get back :lol:

The amount of improvement that that guy still has available to him was astounding to us and our sports scientists,” Vaughters told VeloNews. “He was training like someone was training in 1975. He’s really made some big improvements and that will be interesting to see this season.

“We were able to make larger improvements than I’ve ever seen, even with continental riders we are not able to improve them that much. It was just a massive improvement in his aerodynamics. Hopefully that will translate to the road, we don’t know yet, not until the first time trial of the year.”

http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/01/news/vaughters-on-rolland-he-was-training-like-someone-was-training-in-1975_392667#HlHVkrE8VjdobOk4.99[/

I think it's a pity that JV has only moved Rolland's training forward to 1982... be interesting to see when they get him to 1991

 

[Benotti69]

I think maybe JV's problem is that the machines have all been calibrated.

 

[meat puppet]

What does it even mean that someone is training like it is 1975? That they do lost of threshold and tempo work instead of following a modern polarized very high volume of low intensity stuff plus high end vo2 intervals setup?

Probably not. So what does it even mean?

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

What does it even mean that someone is training like it is 1975? That they do lost of threshold and tempo work instead of following a modern polarized very high volume of low intensity stuff plus high end vo2 intervals setup?

Probably not. So what does it even mean?

It means stopping at every café en route.

JV should be in politics spinning the BS for his masters.

 

[veganrob]

Delayed adaptive physiology?

 

[thehog]

Re:

What does it even mean that someone is training like it is 1975? That they do lost of threshold and tempo work instead of following a modern polarized very high volume of low intensity stuff plus high end vo2 intervals setup?

Probably not. So what does it even mean?

Yes, in 1975 athletes were already undertaking altitude training with various different approaches, LHTH etc.

Since the 68 Olympics althletes were already working with blood doping, high attitude interval training.

 

[staubsauger]

Probably it means training without powermeter etc just riding, pushing and training by feeling like Mayo did!?

Anyway. Vaughters is a hypocrite, sneak, unsavory character and a complete goof! So I'm very happy his laughable comments and stupid accusations backfire on him! Yes, I even got some inner Reichsparteitag realizing how comical he looks right now.

 

[thehog]

Re:

Probably it means training without powermeter etc just riding, pushing and training by feeling like Mayo did!?

Anyway. Vaughters is a hypocrite, sneak, unsavory character and a complete goof! So I'm very happy his laughable comments and stupid accusations backfire on him! Yes, I even got some inner Reichsparteitag realizing how comical he looks right now.

Barry Manilow was number 1 in 1975. Maybe that's what reminded JV of the bygone era?

 

[thehog]

How does this team keep getting funded?

Cannondale lose two riders on bad day at the Vuelta

Cannondale-Drapac lost road captain Simon Clarke before the start of Vuelta a Espanna stage 11 to a fractured scapula. Paddy Bevin was forced to withdraw from his first Grand Tour with knee pain. Not quite yet at the mid-point of the final three week race of the season, and the Green Argyle nine had quickly become seven.

“To not have Simon is not good news for us,” said sport director Juanma Garate. “Andrew had a lot of confidence with him. Simon is always at the front for the right moment. It’s a big miss for us to lose him.”

“Paddy – he came back from his first crashe and then he crashed again,” Garate explained. “He had a lot of pain in his knee, and we didn’t have options with him to continue. To Paddy, I say: ‘I’m sorry. I’m not happy, and I know you too are not happy.’ It has been a hard year for Paddy with crashes, so I’m sad for him.”

Despite the loss in numbers, Cannondale-Drapac rallied. Pierre Rolland won a hard-fought battle to make it into a large breakaway that formed in the second hour of the stage.

“Today was our plan to have Pierre away,” noted Garate. “Normally on this stage, the break can ride to the climb. We wanted Pierre to be in the break with not a lot of other climbers.”

“We did have Pierre in the break and maybe he was the best climber in there, but we didn’t have luck,” Garate added. “Tinkoff was running in the front of the bunch to pull the break back for options for Alberto Contador. Coming to the base of the climb with 20 seconds was not enough.”

http://cyclingquotes.com/news/reactions_from_stage_11_of_the_vuelta_a_espana/

 

[IzzyStradlin]

Longest stage of the race. 0 Cannondale Riders in GC contention. Break has 20 min. 0 Cann riders in break. oof :Neutral:

 

[thehog]

Re:

Longest stage of the race. 0 Cannondale Riders in GC contention. Break has 20 min. 0 Cann riders in break. oof :Neutral:

They have the brightest most fluorescent jersey's in the peloton and still no one can find them

 

[burning]

It is absolutely hilarious that some people in PRR section thought that Talansky would be a big danger in GC. Seriously, why on earth drapac decided to sponsor them, it makes literally no sense.

Their only fan in PRR section stopped posting on this teams thread and he was celebrating a TTT win in Czech Tour. :lol:

 

[zigmeister]

Re:

Longest stage of the race. 0 Cannondale Riders in GC contention. Break has 20 min. 0 Cann riders in break. oof :Neutral:

Ben King can't be off the front in every race for the team in the World!

 

[thehog]

Re:

It is absolutely hilarious that some people in PRR section thought that Talansky would be a big danger in GC. Seriously, why on earth drapac decided to sponsor them, it makes literally no sense.

Their only fan in PRR section stopped posting on this teams thread and he was celebrating a TTT win in Czech Tour. :lol:

They need to sign Horner, go for glory at the 2017 Vuelta.

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

Longest stage of the race. 0 Cannondale Riders in GC contention. Break has 20 min. 0 Cann riders in break. oof :Neutral:

I did wonder about this and thought it possible that some managers are not going to let breaks with JVs boys get away.

Payback for spitting in the soup.

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

Longest stage of the race. 0 Cannondale Riders in GC contention. Break has 20 min. 0 Cann riders in break. oof :Neutral:

I did wonder about this and thought it possible that some managers are not going to let breaks with JVs boys get away.

Payback for spitting in the soup.

Highly unlikely, it's a *** team with *** management. They'll also need to review their doping strategy, it's simply not up to present day standards.

 

[StryderHells]

Re:

It is absolutely hilarious that some people in PRR section thought that Talansky would be a big danger in GC. Seriously, why on earth drapac decided to sponsor them, it makes literally no sense.

Their only fan in PRR section stopped posting on this teams thread and he was celebrating a TTT win in Czech Tour. :lol:

While I completely agree they are a joke of a team run by clown the Drapac sponsorship does make sense, Micheal Drapac is trying to grow his business in the US which is why we've seen Drapac racing the US stage races over the last couple of seasons, he wanted more exposure which is why he chose Cannondale as they were they only US WT team where he could hop on board as a sponsor. It would of taken to much $$$ and time to build Drapac into a WT unit themselves so for better or most likely worse they took this option.