Cav surely a shoo-in for BBC Sports Personality of Year?

[mancsyboy]

latest odds are:

Darren Clarke 11/10
Mark Cavendish 3/1
Mo Farah 5/1
Rory McIlroy 11/2
Tom Daley 20/1
Alaistair Cook 25/1

So the bookies seem to think that Cav has got a good chance. looks like they are not taking any chances with Clarke, as they know he will grab a huge amounts of votes due to the whole background story.

I dont think you can argue if any of the first 4 win as they have won top honours in their sport. Not a golf fan but Clarke has done well and its not every sport that celebrates with a Cigar. I do hope Cav wins though

 

[Winterfold]

Cooke25-1

If Cav doesnt get it, Cooke getting it would not **** me off - he did actually do something epic and heroic - and ****ed off more Ozzies than Cav to boot.

It is generally a joke though - when Giggs won in 2008 it summed up its general crap camel coat sports journalist golf footy bollox. Which the beeb is generally in bed with (used to work there so based on experience not opinion).

 

[sublimit]

To be fair, he has won a few big tournaments and had a WGC victory. His career at the start of the year was a bit like Westwood's without the same consistency as Lee.

Yeah clearly he's had a great career but its neat that he's topped it all off with a major, particularly as he won in style.

Mo Farah has done well, not surprised to see him as a possibility.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Personality of the year? What a pathetic award. We might as well have an award for sports biggest schlong if we are going to have awards like this...geez.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Personality of the year? What a pathetic award. We might as well have an award for sports biggest schlong if we are going to have awards like this...geez.

Linford Chrsity is still the odds on favorite for that one each year.

 

[sublimit]

Personality of the year? What a pathetic award. We might as well have an award for sports biggest schlong if we are going to have awards like this...geez.

Now now.. This is the most important award for A British sportsman possible in a particular year. Or Irish sportsman like last year with McCoy the jockey.

Believe that and will you will believe anything. To coin a phrase Its a pile of BS to be fair

 

[Martin318is]

Personality of the year? What a pathetic award. We might as well have an award for sports biggest schlong if we are going to have awards like this...geez.

you do know Australia has essentially the same award right? 2010 Australian sportsperson of the year - Mark webber...

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Cooke25-1

If Cav doesnt get it, Cooke getting it would not **** me off - he did actually do something epic and heroic - and ****ed off more Ozzies than Cav to boot.

It is generally a joke though - when Giggs won in 2008 it summed up its general crap camel coat sports journalist golf footy bollox. Which the beeb is generally in bed with (used to work there so based on experience not opinion).

Cook is being matched at 49-1 and above on Betfair which is a better guide to his chances

 

[The Hitch]

you do know Australia has essentially the same award right? 2010 Australian sportsperson of the year - Mark webber...

I guess that proves his point

 

[greenedge]

Cav should get it. Alastair Cook could get it realistically. Rooney if the Soccer WC was on right now would lead GB to the finals and he would get it.

 

[ScottyMuser]

I think Cav has a better chance than Clarke, unlike the bookies, for 1 simple reason - the "golfing" vote will be split between him, and Rory, and I'd think myself that Yoyry, out of the 2, may even edge that vote by virtue of him a) being younger, b) dominating the other tournament for 3 rounds before collapsing, and c) the sheer size of the margin of victory.

Footballers won't be on the list, as usual - don't forget Ryan Giggs wouldn't have even been on the list if a Daily Telegraph Man Utd sports journo hadn't 3 days before the newspapers were due to submit their votes to the BBC to create the shortlist started a massive campaign - and Giggs only scraped in with the least number of votes even with this. It was the same journo's massive "Giggs is a brilliant player, he deserves it for his last 20 years in footie" campaign, that got him the public vote after.

Problem Cav has is he has had a great year - but so have an *awful* lot of other British sport persons - Cook/Bell in the cricket, Farah/Greene in track/field, the brownlees/jackson in tri, Wellington (as usual) in Ironman, wiggo/froome in road cycling, clarke/mcilroy, Hart in DH, matthews in squash - and then there's the RWC too to consider.

 

[ScottyMuser]

Cav should get it. Alastair Cook could get it realistically. Rooney if the Soccer WC was on right now would lead GB to the finals and he would get it.

Disagree with your rooney comment for 2 reasons - England wouldn't get near the WC Final (and they'd need to at a minimum get to the SFs for a player to have chance at winning) and Rooney is, for England, overrated and the nomination would go to someone else who would have (in this hypothetical situation) done more

Also, despite the British public's usual bias, footballers have actually only won the award 5 times - and if you remove Giggs as that was more an anomaly where a jouirno was able to overly influence the results, and 2 of them deservedly so (Moore, Gazza), and the other 2 won it in very poor sporting years for England (in 98, owen won it ahead of Denise Lewis who won gold in the WCs, but obviously thats not the olympics) and being very young, in 01 Becks won it abead of Ellen McArthur and Owen. This year, we have multiple WCs, Major golf winners, a tennis player who has consistently been in SFs and Finals this year (compared to the much more mediocre Tim Henman), a cricket team who have been the best in the world, rather then also rans and we still could have a team in the finals of the RWC.

 

[LugHugger]

At least Clark, Cavendish and Farah have personalities. Which is more than can be said for most of the past winners...

 

[greenedge]

True but when it comes to cricket its GB by another name. All the good Irish, Welsh and Scots (I think there is one scot who almost played) played for England. Also approximately 85% of the UK population is English so if it was to go by country England would still have a healthy advantage.

Kevin Peterson, Strauss, Kieswetter and Trott are all South African i think. You also have Eoin Morgan.

 

[Midnightfright]

Kevin Peterson, Strauss, Kieswetter and Trott are all South African i think. You also have Eoin Morgan.

They were all born in SA yes and they all have diffrent claims to there ligitmacy to play for England. Strauss and Kieswetter I believe both have English parents were brought up through the County system and in the case of Strauss has lived here since he's 10. there other 2 learnt there cricket in SA spent 5 years get citizenship then played for the team. It's also intresting that Matt Prior was also born in SA but I'm my memory is correct he and his British parents have lived here since he was a tot

 

[MartinGT]

Farah, wow, what an athlete that kid is, cant wait to watch him at the Olympics next year.

After the Tevez thing this week I have just given up on what little interest I had in football. Here is a man on allegedly £250k a week refusing to play football. Then we have young men on the front line in Afghan on peanuts, living in sh!tholes. I know the guys & girls have choices of joining the forces, but still, its a joke.

Back to OP. IMO I get the impression Cav couldnt careless about winning it. For me the BBC are sh!t. They show Ski Sunday every season yet how many top level skiers do we have?

 

[The Hitch]

After the Tevez thing this week I have just given up on what little interest I had in football. Here is a man on allegedly £250k a week refusing to play football. Then we have young men on the front line in Afghan on peanuts, living in sh!tholes. I know the guys & girls have choices of joining the forces, but still, its a joke.

Amen brother.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Kevin Peterson, Strauss, Kieswetter and Trott are all South African i think. You also have Eoin Morgan.

Strauss is as English as cups of tea, fish and chips and p***ing in doorways.

Pietersen (ironically, you felt the need to anglicise his surname ), Kieswetter and Trott are as English as Kepler Wessels, Andrew Symonds, Clyde Rathbone and Quade Cooper are Australian.

Eoin Morgan hails from a country who aren't a test affiliated nation, so he plays for England.

 

[sublimit]

Strauss is as English as cups of tea, fish and chips and p***ing in doorways.

Pietersen (ironically, you felt the need to anglicise his surname ), Kieswetter and Trott are as English as Kepler Wessels, Andrew Symonds, Clyde Rathbone and Quade Cooper are Australian.

Eoin Morgan hails from a country who aren't a test affiliated nation, so he plays for England.

Kepler Wessels actually played for both South Africa and Australia in tests, Strauss has a home counties accent so he definatley counts as English.

The thing is with Ryan Giggs winning it last year is that it devalues the competition because he won in an easy year and with extreme outside assistance

 

[sublimit]

**** it I'm considering starting a campaign for Carlos Tevez to become overseas personality of the year.
Actually I wont bother and let somebody else do that while I sit on my ****. Its easier.

 

[Captain_Cavman]

Cavendish's chances look even better now...

Mark Cavendish (cycling)
Darren Clarke (golf)
Alastair Cook (cricket)
Luke Donald (golf)
Mo Farah (athletics)
Dai Greene (athletics)
Amir Khan (boxing)
Rory McIlroy (cricket)
Andy Murray (tennis)
Andrew Strauss (cricket)

Three golfers splitting their vote, 2 from Northern Ireland and one who hasn't won anything.
2 Cricketers splitting the cricketing vote.
2 Athletes splitting the athletics vote.
1 Boxer who hasn't beaten anyone of note this year
1 Tennis player who is still to claim a big prize.

It's a poor field overall, and that makes Cavendish the big favourite for me.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Cavendish's chances look even better now...

Mark Cavendish (cycling)
Darren Clarke (golf)
Alastair Cook (cricket)
Luke Donald (golf)
Mo Farah (athletics)
Dai Greene (athletics)
Amir Khan (boxing)
Rory McIlroy (cricket)
Andy Murray (tennis)
Andrew Strauss (cricket)

Three golfers splitting their vote, 2 from Northern Ireland and one who hasn't won anything.
2 Cricketers splitting the cricketing vote.
2 Athletes splitting the athletics vote.
1 Boxer who hasn't beaten anyone of note this year
1 Tennis player who is still to claim a big prize.

It's a poor field overall, and that makes Cavendish the big favourite for me.

Never underestimate the ability of the Welsh to back one of their own - see Calzaghe and Giggs for evidence of that. Greene, as the sole Welshman, has a big chance because of that.

It's not a bad list, actually. 2 World Athletics Champs, one of whom had a phenomenal year, 2 golf Major winners and another who's the clear world no. 1, and 2 cricketers from a team who swept all before them and are the current world's best. Murray, whilst not winning anything, reached all 4 Grand Slam semis in 1 year, which only a small handful of men have ever done.

Brownlee should be on the list for sure, though.

Obviously the Manx Missile should win, but he barely got a mention in 2009, despite his astonishing season, so I won't hold my breath.

 

[El Pistolero]

Never underestimate the ability of the Welsh to back one of their own - see Calzaghe and Giggs for evidence of that. Greene, as the sole Welshman, has a big chance because of that.

It's not a bad list, actually. 2 World Athletics Champs, one of whom had a phenomenal year, 2 golf Major winners and another who's the clear world no. 1, and 2 cricketers from a team who swept all before them and are the current world's best. Murray, whilst not winning anything, reached all 4 Grand Slam semis in 1 year, which only a small handful of men have ever done.

Brownlee should be on the list for sure, though.

Obviously the Manx Missile should win, but he barely got a mention in 2009, despite his astonishing season, so I won't hold my breath.

Surely he won't even stand a chance to win? How are they portraying him in the British/English media? Losing all the time especially in front of home crowds like in Wimbledon and the Masters must make some people fed up with him. Especially since GB is trying so hard to develop great tenissers capable of winning Grand Slams.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Surely he won't even stand a chance to win? How are they portraying him in the British/English media? Losing all the time especially in front of home crowds like in Wimbledon and the Masters must make some people fed up with him. Especially since GB is trying so hard to develop great tenissers capable of winning Grand Slams.

No, he doesn't stand a chance. But he deserves to be on the list, given his achievement in making all 4 GS semis. That's pretty special.

He's portrayed as exactly what he is - a brilliant tennis player who doesn't quite have what it takes to go that extra step needed against Federer and Nadal (2 of the very best of all time), for which there's no shame. Of course, some people are fed up with him. There's plenty of clueless people of every country.

Btw, he won in front of a home crowd at Queen's this year.

 

[El Pistolero]

No, he doesn't stand a chance. But he deserves to be on the list, given his achievement in making all 4 GS semis. That's pretty special.

He's portrayed as exactly what he is - a brilliant tennis player who doesn't quite have what it takes to go that extra step needed against Federer and Nadal (2 of the very best of all time), for which there's no shame. Of course, some people are fed up with him. There's plenty of clueless people of every country.

Btw, he won in front of a home crowd at Queen's this year.

That's just small fish though. He doesn't have quite what it takes to take up Djokovic as well by the way.