Cav surely a shoo-in for BBC Sports Personality of Year?

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BM1979 said:
Amateurs. I suppose Marathon runners are amateurs too compared to sprinters being the Proffessional grade

I wonder what all of this says about stage racers who can't win classics.
 
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Ferminal said:
I wonder what all of this says about stage racers who can't win classics.

I look at it more like the people who cant make it in track cycling give up and turn to road racing

Im not sure but for Amateurs Mark Allen , Greg Welch and Craig Alexander sure did alright at the Olympic length Triathalons when they competed in them during their careers. Not bad for Amateurs.

They all decided to do the Ironmans cause that 8 hours of pain was taking the easy route to getting a win.
 
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Iron man Hawai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympic distance


It's not even a close fight lol.
 
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The thing is with triathlon is that its even more obscure than cycle road racing is in Britain, luckily though i reckon that's improving quickly now with Cav, Wiggins, Froome getting some sort of coverage.

If Chrissy Wellington was Canadian or a Kiwi or something then clearly she would be a national heroin out there and in with a chance of some sort of award. In Britain no chance.
 
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Just something re: women's sports - none of the women I know who follow sports follow women's sports specifically. That's purely anecdotal, but I would be willing to bet that's more or less a general rule. It's not (necessarily) about sexism, but women's sport usually just isn't that interesting; I sometimes give it a shot - skiing, football, tennis, but it just doesn't "grab" my interest. The only women's sport I can recall that I've been really impressed with is weightlifting, the weight those tiny women can lift just boggles the mind.
 
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spalco said:
Just something re: women's sports - none of the women I know who follow sports follow women's sports specifically. That's purely anecdotal, but I would be willing to bet that's more or less a general rule. It's not (necessarily) about sexism, but women's sport usually just isn't that interesting; I sometimes give it a shot - skiing, football, tennis, but it just doesn't "grab" my interest. The only women's sport I can recall that I've been really impressed with is weightlifting, the weight those tiny women can lift just boggles the mind.

Women tennis used to be pretty good with Kim Clijsters, the Williams brothers, Justin Henin, sometimes Sharapova. But now the level in women tennis is pretty low. Justin Henin said the same recently and she only watches male tennis now lol.
 
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sublimit said:
The thing is with triathlon is that its even more obscure than cycle road racing is in Britain, luckily though i reckon that's improving quickly now with Cav, Wiggins, Froome getting some sort of coverage.

If Chrissy Wellington was Canadian or a Kiwi or something then clearly she would be a national heroin out there and in with a chance of some sort of award. In Britain no chance.

Also, comparing triathlon's reach to that of road cycling is like comparing sportscar or rally to F1. Allan McNish is one of the best sportscar drivers in the world and has been for most of the last decade, Kris Meeke won the IRC. But Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button are much more likely to stand a chance of winning, because their sport has more coverage.
 
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El Pistolero said:
Women tennis used to be pretty good with Kim Clijsters, the Williams brothers, Justin Henin, sometimes Sharapova. But now the level in women tennis is pretty low. Justin Henin said the same recently and she only watches male tennis now lol.

Womens tennis is a travesty these days, its become a competition to see who can choke less than the their opponents. Although a very good player, Clijsters coming back after 2 years out and winning the US Open with 2 tournaments of match practice says everything you need to know about womens tennis today. You might have put it down to chance until you saw Henin get to Australian Open final after a similar tim out.
 
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richtea said:
Womens tennis is a travesty these days, its become a competition to see who can choke less than the their opponents. Although a very good player, Clijsters coming back after 2 years out and winning the US Open with 2 tournaments of match practice says everything you need to know about womens tennis today. You might have put it down to chance until you saw Henin get to Australian Open final after a similar tim out.

Actually, I've never seen Clijsters playing better than after her come-back for some weird reason.

But last 2 years the level dropped a lot IMO. Too bad Clijsters was injured for most of the season after Australian Open or she could have won a lot more.
 
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Forgive me for straying back to the topic, but am I the only Brit that finds the whole thing a crushing bore? In essence, the SPOTY programme is a reasonable review of a year in British sport utterly ruined by gut-wrenchingly sycophantic interviews [of the kind that make those Centre Court jobs look like Paxman on a testosterone high] capped off by a cheesy presentation of a number of pointless trophies that have absolutely nothing to do with 'personality' in any way, shape or form - how can you have a 'team personality' award for crying out loud???

Actually, the prospect of watching it isn't far off my 'Room 101' moment. Were I to be forced to do so, I could only pray that 'watching paint dry' was on the Red Button.....

I'm sure Cav's marketing men would like him to win it. Anyone that doesn't directly profit should just ignore this appalling nonsense.
 
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cycladianpirate said:
Forgive me for straying back to the topic, but am I the only Brit that finds the whole thing a crushing bore? In essence, the SPOTY programme is a reasonable review of a year in British sport utterly ruined by gut-wrenchingly sycophantic interviews [of the kind that make those Centre Court jobs look like Paxman on a testosterone high] capped off by a cheesy presentation of a number of pointless trophies that have absolutely nothing to do with 'personality' in any way, shape or form - how can you have a 'team personality' award for crying out loud???

Actually, the prospect of watching it isn't far off my 'Room 101' moment. Were I to be forced to do so, I could only pray that 'watching paint dry' was on the Red Button.....

I'm sure Cav's marketing men would like him to win it. Anyone that doesn't directly profit should just ignore this appalling nonsense.

I think the problem is that you don't seem to be aware that personality, as well as being a word much abused by psychologists, also simply means person.
 
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
I think the problem is that you don't seem to be aware that personality, as well as being a word much abused by psychologists, also simply means person.

I see. Sports 'Person' of the Year was too unwieldy a title for this dross. Many thanks for your insight.
 
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cycladianpirate said:
I see. Sports 'Person' of the Year was too unwieldy a title for this dross. Many thanks for your insight.

Yes, Sports Person sounds too obviously like the BBC are trying to avoid saying Sportsman for PC reasons. Personality is more poetic, but does indeed lead 90% of people to muse exactly what personality any of these people have demonstrated.

Regardless of title, if it offends you so greatly, don't watch it, and don't read threads quite clearly marked as about it.
 
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
Yes, Sports Person sounds too obviously like the BBC are trying to avoid saying Sportsman for PC reasons. Personality is more poetic, but does indeed lead 90% of people to muse exactly what personality any of these people have demonstrated.

Regardless of title, if it offends you so greatly, don't watch it, and don't read threads quite clearly marked as about it.

That is sweetly mad. I can't begin to 'muse' on whether your grammar or your sentiment is the best part of your post. Keep it up......it makes for strangely pleasant reading.
 
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El Pistolero said:
Iron man Hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympic distance


It's not even a close fight lol.

Yes +1
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stephens said:
Chrissie Wellington may just be the greatest athlete ever, that happens to be a woman. Sure, there may have been women who were equally dominant over other women in more mainstream sporting endeavors, but there has never been a woman whose performances have been as close to the absolute best performance in the sport regardless of sex. In other words, she's closer to the best men than any woman has ever been in any other sport. To me that makes her the greatest female athlete ever.

Once glycogen starts running out, then the body starts to burn off fat instead. It's thought that women can burn this more efficiently than men (and, of course, they have more of it). Given that, the longer the event, the closer to men they'll be. So you'd expect Wellington to be closer than, for example, a 100m runner, or even a 10000m runner. Have an event long enough and the men may even get beat.
 
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Tuarts said:
Tough to do an Aussie version I think. :D

Cadel Evans v Sally Pearsons.

Not sure who the other nomineese would be. Craig Alexander I guess, someone from Brisbane Roar.

Mitchell Johnson :p

I can't choose between Evans and Pearson though. They've both had perfect years.
 
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