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[ingsve]

Cav is arrogant and it's great.

Oxymoron...

 

[Machine]

+1.

Cav is arrogant and it's great. Some people take him far too seriously though - which i'm sure is exactly what he wants!

Totally agree. I think it's great to have characters in the sport who don't mince their words. Sprinters are often fairly cockey people - good on them.

 

[hektoren]

Go Barca, no surprise here the Brits losing to Spaniards nothing new here

Like the Spanish Armada, you mean?
On a sidenote, Arsenal was extremely lucky to escape with a draw at home against Barca. Could've been 0-5 after 1st half and nobody would've raised an eyebrow.

 

[Anonymous]

He wonders why half his team left him this year. He left his life long girlfriend for an Italian model, he farked up his teeth with cometic surgery and hasn't won a thing all season. He's going to get dropped soon. So bloke is going to smash him. No one will give a s=it when it happens to. In the old days you'd get a pump through the spokes if you behaved like Cav.

Even Rod Ellingworth in a recent interview alluded to him having a number of "personal problems" over the winter, but Ellingworth put the spin that he's a young lad, maybe he needed to learn some of the lessons he has done and he will be better for it in the future. Sounds like he's become a bit billy-big-time, but who wouldn't in his position?!

Still, I'd be happy for another Cipollini, that man was pure entertainment!

 

[thehog]

Still, I'd be happy for another Cipollini, that man was pure entertainment!

Cav's not Cippo. The kids got a manc accent and bucked teeth. Cippo could bang 28 chics in one session. Cav was beaten hard by the ugly stick.

 

[El Oso]

Totally agree. I think it's great to have characters in the sport who don't mince their words. Sprinters are often fairly cockey people - good on them.

Yes, but there is a different between Cipo and Cav.
Cipo seemed to just want to entertain and was flamboiant; it was more that Cipo built himself up. I can't remember any interviews where Cipo attacked another rider.
On the other hand, Cav both builds himself up and tears others down, i.e. he's a bully.

 

[maltiv]

Totally agree. I think it's great to have characters in the sport who don't mince their words. Sprinters are often fairly cockey people - good on them.

Cocky can be good. I don't mind athletes being cocky to some degree, as long as it's justified and slightly humorous. However, Cavendish isn't just cocky - he's disrespectful, arrogant and really childish (his teeth braces doesn't make it any better!).

 

[Phlakaton]

I miss watching McEwen jumping around and past all those lead out clowns. If I want to hear some chatterin' I'll take Robbie's mouth over these guys any day of the week.

 

[Machine]

Cocky can be good. I don't mind athletes being cocky to some degree, as long as it's justified and slightly humorous. However, Cavendish isn't just cocky - he's disrespectful, arrogant and really childish (his teeth braces doesn't make it any better!).

He wasn't trying to be funny, though desribing Greipel's wins as "sh*t races" was funny to me. He was trying to put Greipel in his place since he has been trying to move in on the races that he targets. This competition and rivalry is good for the sport. When they're on seperate teams it will be great to watch.

More people should speak out like this - it's how they all talk in private anyway. It's much better than the boring PR speak in interviews.

 

[Machine]

More people should speak out like this - it's how they all talk in private anyway.

Actually that's a very good point I just made. The same people who complain about Cav's mouth are the very same people who love to post their own strong opinions all the time on forums like this.

Why can't Cav and anyone else talk like we would speak on a forum?

 

[spanky wanderlust]

Actually that's a very good point I just made. The same people who complain about Cav's mouth are the very same people who love to post their own strong opinions all the time on forums like this.

Why can't Cav and anyone else talk like we would speak on a forum?

i think the point is that, really, noone should be talking that way. are you really suggesting that people should go around treating everyone the way they treat people on their anonymous internet forums?! i'm glad i don't live in that world.

nice move, btw. quoting yourself to point out what a good point you made. classic!

personally, i think cav is a bit of a d-bag. cavendouche, perhaps? i try not to let his outrageously foul media outbursts interfere with my enjoyment of his racing. was the same with robbie a few years back, although i think even mcewen might be blushing at some of the stuff cav says!

 

[Oldman]

Actually that's a very good point I just made. The same people who complain about Cav's mouth are the very same people who love to post their own strong opinions all the time on forums like this.

Why can't Cav and anyone else talk like we would speak on a forum?

Not really a problem and we love him talking trash. He'll discover real f@#king soon that it is a team sport and someone's got to get him back to the pack everytime he gaps on the hills. If he keeps badmouthing his leadouts, his bridging army, etc...he'll be one tired guy by the time he gets to the finish. How many podiums come then?
By all accounts he's had a pretty organized and cushy delivery to many of his wins.

 

[Machine]

i think the point is that, really, noone should be talking that way. are you really suggesting that people should go around treating everyone the way they treat people on their anonymous internet forums?! i'm glad i don't live in that world.

Well riders probably shouldn't stoop quite to the level of cycling forums, but what Cav said was a million miles from that.

personally, i think cav is a bit of a d-bag. cavendouche, perhaps? i try not to let his outrageously foul media outbursts interfere with my enjoyment of his racing.

It's lucky Cav didn't call anyone a douch bag like you have just done.

I don't see anything outrageous about what he said at all. Griepel is trying to throw his weight about after his spate of small wins, and Cav is answering back. You may not like how he said it, but it's hardly something to make you dislike him. Why is it alright for you to dislike Cav for these remarks, but it's not alright for him to dislike Greipel for trying to take away opportunites in his career?

There's gross hypocrisy here.

 

[Machine]

Not really a problem and we love him talking trash. He'll discover real f@#king soon that it is a team sport and someone's got to get him back to the pack everytime he gaps on the hills. If he keeps badmouthing his leadouts, his bridging army, etc...he'll be one tired guy by the time he gets to the finish. How many podiums come then?
By all accounts he's had a pretty organized and cushy delivery to many of his wins.

You needn't worry since Cavendish is famous for thanking his lead out train with lots of hugs and praise. Indeed, that might be the reason why he feels betrayed by Greipel and feels he has the right to talk down to him. Why don't you guys think about obvious things like that? Cav could be outraged because he is such a nice guy to work with, not because he is a terribly arrogant person.

 

[High Cotton]

Why is it alright for you to dislike Cav for these remarks, but it's not alright for him to dislike Greipel for trying to take away opportunites in his career?

To me, you're asking a pretty stupid question. You've read what Greipel said, right? For your convenience, you may find it quoted below.
"That was a real blow for me. My riding hasn't been so bad that I didn't deserve to start."

“Cavendish is having his problems right now. I have ridden some good races,”
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/greipel-not-happy-with-milan-san-remo-exclusion

 

[theswordsman]

It would be one thing if he was talking trash about a competitor on another team, but this is using the media to belittle his own teammate. And refusing to be in the same race with a guy hurts his livelihood and the future of his career. It also pretty much assures the guy won't be able to call him out face to face.

Say what you want about brash and cocky sprinters, but Cav has changed. I remember reading a long article about him last year, when he came off as all down to Earth, want to stay and train on the Isle of Man, with his girlfriend and the house and stuff. The next thing I knew, he was dating Miss Italy or whatever, and complaining in the press about the races his boss wants him to ride? And how do you think the sponsors feel hearing in the press he doesn't want to ride the race that will get them the best exposure? He also insulted the races that are non pro tour events, and the riders who were there at the finish of MSR 2009.

And this is the response to a teammate who has some results on the year wishing that he had been able to ride the classic? And it wasn't an in the heat of battle thing either. How would he react if someone actually wronged him? I've lost a lot of respect for the guy. I can watch him sprint, but I don't have to listen to what he has to say again.

 

[BroDeal]

well riders probably shouldn't stoop quite to the level of cycling forums, but what cav said was a million miles from that.

It's lucky cav didn't call anyone a douch bag like you have just done.

I don't see anything outrageous about what he said at all. Griepel is trying to throw his weight about after his spate of small wins, and cav is answering back. You may not like how he said it, but it's hardly something to make you dislike him. Why is it alright for you to dislike cav for these remarks, but it's not alright for him to dislike greipel for trying to take away opportunites in his career?

There's gross hypocrisy here.

bpc..............

 

[Dr. Maserati]

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Why can't Cav and anyone else talk like we would speak on a forum?

That is an interesting point.

If Cav was banned from speaking and yet returned to speak using 30 different usernames then I would have to query his motivations and his sanity.

 

[hfer07]

With respect - I think people need to read the whole article, not just the OP's quotes.

As an example - the "shit small" reference was not in relation to Griepel or the Vuelta but about his own preparation for the rest of the season, as he said "If I wanted to just win races I wouldn't ride every ProTour race."

I think Cav has started to calm down - at least he didn't threaten to get off his bike and hit Griepel

thanks for the link-it really explains in detail the kind of A$$HOLE he is. BTW I'm certain this latest childish complaining is meant to exit the team to join Sky-ala LA with the Shack.

 

[Oldman]

You needn't worry since Cavendish is famous for thanking his lead out train with lots of hugs and praise. Indeed, that might be the reason why he feels betrayed by Greipel and feels he has the right to talk down to him. Why don't you guys think about obvious things like that? Cav could be outraged because he is such a nice guy to work with, not because he is a terribly arrogant person.

Cav is talking to the press about family matters. That is arrogant by any measure even if Greipel is dumb enough to start whining. True team leaders don't need to do it and, if everyone remembers; was the reason Contador is on his own and will never look back.
That's why we guys don't think about it because it is bush league for a proven winner.

 

[Machine]

Say what you want about brash and cocky sprinters, but Cav has changed.

You're saying you know he's changed because he happens to have got a new girlfriend, the circumstances of which you know absolutely nothing about, and because he said the type of thing they all say in private about each other in an interview?

I dislike you more for this ridiculous mentality than either Greipel or Cav.

Indeed, I don't even dislike Greipel. There is no pro rider that I dislike. I think he's a great sprinter and I'd love to see him up against Cav. It's the match up everyone wants to see right now. But in a situation where the two biggest sprinters in the world right now are in the same team, this type of event is bound to happen. Cav obviously really wanted to go to the Giro and Greipel has taken that away from him, and now he wants to move in on the big classics. It's no wonder Cav is resentful.

 

[High Cotton]

Cav obviously really wanted to go to the Giro and Greipel has taken that away from him, and now he wants to move in on the big classics. It's no wonder Cav is resentful.

How did you get any of that from Greipel's quotes?

Do you even know what Greipel said?

 

[BroDeal]

How did you get any of that from Greipel's quotes?

Do you even know what Greipel said?

You have to take into account that this is a sock puppet of our resident troll, BPC. He likes to make stuff up or twist facts to disrupt the forum.

 

[Machine]

How did you get any of that from Greipel's quotes?[/quotes]

Maybe you did not know but Greipel is doing the Giro and Cav has made it pretty clear that he would have prefered to do it.

Do you even know what Greipel said?

Yes.

 

[High Cotton]

How did you get any of that from Greipel's quotes?

Maybe you did not know but Greipel is doing the Giro and Cav has made it pretty clear that he would have prefered to do it.



Yes.

So, in your mind, Cav is doing the ToC and Greipel is doing the Giro because of something Greipel said and not because the American sponsors want their best riders racing the biggest races in their market?

Interesting...







...and ridiculous, given that Cavendish seemed to realize it was a sponsor related decision.

"Team manager Bob Stapleton recently announced that Cavendish will ride the Tour of California in May, while Greipel will ride the Giro d'Italia. Cavendish stated last week that he would have preferred to ride at the Giro, but accepted that sponsors interests were more important."