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joy118118 said:
Interesting to see english newspaper boasting of him and degrade him at the same time.

This is a British national sport. It creates a special type of wounded animal such as we see here. The only way to avoid such typecasting is to keep your mouth shut and get on with the job. And when there's so much attention, some people are going to feel like hitting back at the people they think have hurt them along the way.

Ugly but inevitable. With the British press, you can use it as a mouthpiece for so long, but you need to remember that it's going to call you in one day.
 
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L'arriviste said:
This is a British national sport. It creates a special type of wounded animal such as we see here. The only way to avoid such typecasting is to keep your mouth shut and get on with the job. And when there's so much attention, some people are going to feel like hitting back at the people they think have hurt them along the way.

Ugly but inevitable. With the British press, you can use it as a mouthpiece for so long, but you need to remember that it's going to call you in one day.

Well, i am not cavendish's fanboy and don't know much about how British newspaper trust their 'national sport'. But I am curious about Guardian. All of their reports about Cavendish seem that they dont like Cavendish. Why they so insist on Cavendish? When I first read the article said

"The danger, when you live somewhere such as the Isle of Man, is that it is easy to become isolated and, as Boardman observes, as you become more successful, 'people talk more quietly and you do less listening'."

it made me laugh for a minute. I cant believe there will be a newspaper saying something like that to a sportsman like Cavendish in any country.

But I have to admit that reading articles about Cavendish on Guardian is something for fun to me.
 
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joy118118 said:
I cant believe there will be a newspaper saying something like that to a sportsman like Cavendish in any country.

In my experience, the Belgian (or specifically Flemish) press can also be very critical of the national athletes, especially when cycling is concerned. It would be interesting to make a small portfolio of what has been written about Devolder the last couple of months. You may get similar quotes.
 
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Yeah, unlike America, where sportsmen are idolized and their asses get licked continously (sorry for the expression), the european press, wether it's in England, Belgium or Spain, tends to be very critical for their own heroes.

For example, a young rider who does well, first gets touted as next TDF winner, and when his first bad results come in, he gets broken down to the ground.
Always happens here.
 
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joy118118 said:
Well, i am not cavendish's fanboy and don't know much about how British newspaper trust their 'national sport'. But I am curious about Guardian. All of their reports about Cavendish seem that they dont like Cavendish. Why they so insist on Cavendish? When I first read the article said



it made me laugh for a minute. I cant believe there will be a newspaper saying something like that to a sportsman like Cavendish in any country.

But I have to admit that reading articles about Cavendish on Guardian is something for fun to me.

The Guardian sees itself as a trendy, centre-left newspaper and is a self-appointed chronicler of high culture. Its roots were in the actual left-wing: to provide a worker's perspective and a counterpoint to the traditional view of a nation that revolved around London.

Today, many of the 'workers' who read the Guardian will be doing so while snacking on Goji berries, reading about a world that revolves around their second home in the Luberon.

Cavendish is something entirely exotic for the Guardian readership. A sportsperson who isn't university educated and uses the four-letter word with a frequency that hasn't been heard since Oasis and Irvine Welsh were cool. A homegrown product of a British society that is elsewhere full of the very politically correct, self-censoring bluster that the Guardian and its ilk helped to create.

He is thus a unique, earthy discovery, a Savage in the Brave New World whose every kilometre has already been mapped with Google satellite photos and GPS coordinates.

And with a note of vanilla in that herby bouquet, generous body and slightly acid finish, it's also what this Cavendish fellow does. Cycling is eco-friendly, continental and full of scandal that's harmless to the mainstream UK (un)conscious.

Cycling is the new cricket. So take the Guardian with a pinch of oregano. :)
 
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Yeah, damn that middle-class Guardian. It's not a patch on the good, honest, working class papers like the Sun and the Daily Mail, am I right? :rolleyes:
 
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Jamsque said:
Yeah, damn that middle-class Guardian. It's not a patch on the good, honest, working class papers like the Sun and the Daily Mail, am I right? :rolleyes:
This summer, I'll be cycling along the eastern coast of your country, from Harwich to John O'Groats. Discussions like this really make me look forward to it, honestly. Britain here we come.
 
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Hibbles said:

Totally! I see the UK press much like I see UK politics these days. I don't believe any of them. :)

Jonathan said:
This summer, I'll be cycling along the eastern coast of your country, from Harwich to John O'Groats. Discussions like this really make me look forward to it, honestly. Britain here we come.

Wow, really? Be sure to see Ravenscar, Robin Hood's Bay, Bamburgh, Holy Island and Cromarty. However, try to avoid Bognor, Skegness, Hull, Bridlington, Whitley Bay and Hartlepool.

And all of that during a balmy British summer? Brave guy. ;)

Holy Island:
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Skegness:
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Sorry, way off topic again! :|
 
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L'arriviste said:
The Guardian sees itself as a trendy, centre-left newspaper and is a self-appointed chronicler of high culture. Its roots were in the actual left-wing: to provide a worker's perspective and a counterpoint to the traditional view of a nation that revolved around London.

Today, many of the 'workers' who read the Guardian will be doing so while snacking on Goji berries, reading about a world that revolves around their second home in the Luberon.

Cavendish is something entirely exotic for the Guardian readership. A sportsperson who isn't university educated and uses the four-letter word with a frequency that hasn't been heard since Oasis and Irvine Welsh were cool. A homegrown product of a British society that is elsewhere full of the very politically correct, self-censoring bluster that the Guardian and its ilk helped to create.

He is thus a unique, earthy discovery, a Savage in the Brave New World whose every kilometre has already been mapped with Google satellite photos and GPS coordinates.

And with a note of vanilla in that herby bouquet, generous body and slightly acid finish, it's also what this Cavendish fellow does. Cycling is eco-friendly, continental and full of scandal that's harmless to the mainstream UK (un)conscious.

Cycling is the new cricket. So take the Guardian with a pinch of oregano. :)

An excellent post, bang on.
 
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Jamsque said:
This thread is now about the class war in the UK.

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There's no such thing as "classes" in Britain any more. Tony Blair said so 15 years ago.




Now it's about politics and sociology. Anyone want to bring religion into it to complete the set? :p
 

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There's no such thing as "classes" in Britain any more. Tony Blair said so 15 years ago.
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Now it's about politics and sociology. Anyone want to bring religion into it to complete the set? :p

I assume you mean the The Right Honourable Anthony Charles Lynton Blair?
 
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In the words of Reginald D. Hunter, "Class war is what you have in Britain because you're not very good at racism. I mean, y'all give it a go, but you haven't got the hang of it. Ginger people? That's not a race! But y'all love giving 'em hell".
 
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Oh, we're getting better at racism, don't worry. Wait and see how many votes the BNP gets next month.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
I assume you mean the The Right Honourable Anthony Charles Lynton Blair?

Yep, that's the one. The guy who owns the £3.5m house in Connaught Square and £4m mansion in Buckinghamshire.

And I thought politicians earned a pittance and had to top it up with expenses. :rolleyes:
 
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Also, the Grauniad has a bit of a thing for Wigans doesn't it? I seem to remember them giving him pretty favourable press after Beijing and Cav bashing him for the Madison ****-up? So they are biased against Cav
 
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I have to say, this is just Palin-esque:
Mark Cavendish said:
"It's not built around me," he said. "Cycling is a commercial sport where the job – what's he on about? That's like saying ... It's not a pub-crawl, cycling's a job where fundamentally we have sponsors who pay for the team. Our job is to display those sponsors as prominently as possible, we're moving billboards, and what better way to display those sponsors than to cross the finish line with your hands in the air? That's why Bradley's not winning.

"Did he actually say that? Or not? It's not eight people helping me win … I'm riding for the team. Bradley doesn't see that."
 
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Cav knows publicty is good for the sponsors. He ain't gonna shut up.

It's all about sponsor money. Cav wins races and gets attention for it. He's also a showboat and a hot-dog, again, any attention like that just makes the sponsors smile and fattens their bank account.
http://www.atwistedspoke.com/
 
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Moondance said:
I have to say, this is just Palin-esque:

I can barely understand what he said, but there is some sort of dig at Wigans in there. I hope someone sticks a microphone under Wigans' nose and gets his response. :) This could be entertaining.
 
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Jonathan said:
This summer, I'll be cycling along the eastern coast of your country, from Harwich to John O'Groats. Discussions like this really make me look forward to it, honestly. Britain here we come.

Jonathan, don't despair, you will love it. I can only speak for Edinburgh northwards but it is a lovely part of the world and you will feel very welcome. And I've no doubt that will be the same from day one of your trip.

Hey, drop me a note when you are going to pass North Queensferry (which you will when you go over the Forth Bridge when you leave Edinburgh) and I will set you up with a beer for your journey North:)
 
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Walshworld said:
It's all about sponsor money. Cav wins races and gets attention for it. He's also a showboat and a hot-dog, again, any attention like that just makes the sponsors smile and fattens their bank account.
http://www.atwistedspoke.com/

Well I have to say I really want an HTC phone to go with my T Mobile contract.

Nothing to do with Cav though, HTC phones look awesome.