Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 42 34.4%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 65 53.3%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 28 23.0%

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Judging from his performance today, I expect him to do a similar race to last year, only now Contador isn't here to beat him. We'll see if someone else will, but it's obviously hard to judge from one stage.
 
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Singer01 said:
LaFlorecita said:
Taxus4a said:
Jelantik said:
so Froome is doing the Contador flying by the seat of his pants? what are the odd of him winning the Vuelta? Contador 2011, dominant in the Giro, fatique at the Tour, finished 5th.


Contador dominant in el Giro? Are you sure? He showed similar level in Giro and Tour, more spark in il Giro, but no more.

Bit you talk about Contador, we talk now about Froome,

Sastre was close to do it, he said the team didnt supported hi anyway he won le Tour and later he was 3rd on la Vuelta, I was wrong, Sastre was the first to try it.

Sastre is that kind of rider that can rode Giro, Tour and Vuelta and to be in all of them on the podium, is not the best reference, but Froome is better than Sastre, maybe he has no so big endurance and recovery as Sastre, but he has even more engine, specially for the flat stages.
Taxus believes Contador wasn't dominant in the Giro in 2011 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

well he couldn't even drop tirolongo :eek:
Taxus just hates Contador. You know, he is an spanish oppressor.
 
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The fact that he didn't TT his way up when Quintana went suggests to me that he felt decent today. He was prepared to match the punchy attacks instead of setting a pace, which he usually does when he's feeling good.

Can't really make any proper conclusions from a stage like that though
 
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It was a decent start for him.

How did he manage to gain a second on Valverde at the finish given that Piti appeared to be right on Froome's wheel as they crossed the line? :confused:
 
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JRanton said:
It was a decent start for him.

How did he manage to gain a second on Valverde at the finish given that Piti appeared to be right on Froome's wheel as they crossed the line? :confused:
Probably because of the official timing. The clock probably ticked the moment Froome crossed the line and clocked different time to Valverde, No one bothered to correct it.
 
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PremierAndrew said:
The fact that he didn't TT his way up when Quintana went suggests to me that he felt decent today. He was prepared to match the punchy attacks instead of setting a pace, which he usually does when he's feeling good.

Can't really make any proper conclusions from a stage like that though

I felt it was just the opposite, ie Froome stayed buried deep in that group of favourites to the point I was sure he would lose about a minute at one point when Quintana was still going strong.
 
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sir fly said:
JRanton said:
It was a decent start for him.

How did he manage to gain a second on Valverde at the finish given that Piti appeared to be right on Froome's wheel as they crossed the line? :confused:
Probably because of the official timing. The clock probably ticked the moment Froome crossed the line and clocked different time to Valverde, No one bothered to correct it.

Presumably it will be changed by tomorrow. I see the official website still has Songezo Jim down as finishing 14th on the stage. :rolleyes:
 
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He certainly looked stronger than Aru, for example. Of the group of favorites, only Rodriguez looked clearly stronger than the rest, but I don't think Purito will be there at the end.

Too many questions about the form of the other contenders to make any firm conclusions at this point though.
 
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Here it is not a question of first mountain stages, becouse they started already with mountain, so the advantage that complete rider get in the 1st week of le Tour and shows in the first mountain stage, is not here... the best stage for him is Alto Campoo (Fuente del Chivo), becouse there is the hard Escudo, an later there is a flat terrain where the pure climbers will suffer and the last climb is long and not very step...so perfect for him. The stage of this weekend in Granada is good as well for him, but as well for Valverde, Purito...

In Andorra, except if he is clearly the stronger of the race, he must suffer with people as Quintana, Landa, Chaves, Purito, Pozzovivo,...

He has the ITT of Burgos to win la Vuelta, but later there are some tactical and complicated stages.

I think he will win la Vuelta despite all the post Tour..., becouse for Quintana is the first time he do the double Tour-Vuelta, and he should pay it. But not easy task.
 
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AlexNYC said:
He certainly looked stronger than Aru, for example. Of the group of favorites, only Rodriguez looked clearly stronger than the rest, but I don't think Purito will be there at the end.

Too many questions about the form of the other contenders to make any firm conclusions at this point though.

Aru will improve, but Froome is much better rider than Aru and sshould beat him even tired and Aru in top form...in a stage as Fuente del Chivo Aru will lose time, even if Landa work for him as is expected, and in the ITT he will lose 3 minutes.
 
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Taxus4a said:
Here it is not a question of first mountain stages, becouse they started already with mountain, so the advantage that complete rider get in the 1st week of le Tour andnshows in the forst mountain stage, is not here.. the best stage for him is Alto Campoo (Fuente del Chivo), becouse there is the hard Escudo, an later there is a flat terrain where the pure climbers will suffer and the last climb is long and not very step...so perfect for him. The stage of this weekend in Granada is good as well for him, but as well for Valverde, Purito...

In Andorra, except if he is clearly the stronger of the race, he must suffer with people as Quintana, Landa, Chaves, Purito, Pozzovivo,...

He has the ITT of Burgos to win la Vuelta, but later there are some tactical and complicated stages.

I think he will win la Vuelta despite all the post Tour..., becouse for Quintana is the first time he do the double Tour-Vuelta, and he should pay it. But not easy task.
froome will suffer from purito? pozzovivo? chavez? these guys are worse climbers than froome!!!
 
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portugal11 said:
Taxus4a said:
Here it is not a question of first mountain stages, becouse they started already with mountain, so the advantage that complete rider get in the 1st week of le Tour andnshows in the forst mountain stage, is not here.. the best stage for him is Alto Campoo (Fuente del Chivo), becouse there is the hard Escudo, an later there is a flat terrain where the pure climbers will suffer and the last climb is long and not very step...so perfect for him. The stage of this weekend in Granada is good as well for him, but as well for Valverde, Purito...

In Andorra, except if he is clearly the stronger of the race, he must suffer with people as Quintana, Landa, Chaves, Purito, Pozzovivo,...

He has the ITT of Burgos to win la Vuelta, but later there are some tactical and complicated stages.

I think he will win la Vuelta despite all the post Tour..., becouse for Quintana is the first time he do the double Tour-Vuelta, and he should pay it. But not easy task.
froome will suffer from purito? pozzovivo? chavez? these guys are worse climbers than froome!!!
You are wrong if you think like that..
I didnt say he will lose time, and less i didnt say all those riders will put time on him, but IMO, except if Froome is the stronger by difference of la Vuelta (in that case he will put lot of time on everybody, becoue the tage is really hard), ome of those rider will put time on Froome.

By the contrary, IMo froome will put time on those riders in Fuente del Chivo.

Do you think that in a stage as La Pierre what you maeasure is wich is the bet climber?

Do you think Tony Gallopin is a very good climber?

Do you think Tom Domoulin is as good climber as Chaves becoue he was with him in a climb with some km at 10 % and droped Quintana?

In fact, Tom Domoulin is not a climber, Froome as well is not.

In a stage as la Pierre you came from all the 9 first days of le Tour, with echelons, pavé, stress, wind, tt,...
Not complete riders pay that. The final climb is for climbers, but...

That day the rest of the stage was flat as well, and hot was good for both Froome and Quintana, specially, Froome...

In le Tour there wanst any stage all up and down as Andorra is.. the most similar was alp dhuez, and it was the day quintana put time more time on him...As well, for a climber, if he has good recovery, as much climing days, better results...

Froome has good recovery and is good in the third week... but if in the first week there are hard mountains stages, better for people as Quintana... if there is an ITT, Froome will put a lot of time to the rest.

In Andorra stage, those people as better than him IMO, Froome is better in longer stages.. but lot of climbs, not so short, not usually superstep, are not bad for him as well...

Purito is one of the few that have put time on Froome in the mountains if Froome is well). I think just Quintana and Contador did some times as well, so respect. Purito designed Andorra stage and his cicloturist parade was made in the exact route a week ago, and he was there.

Andorra is a stage for pure climbers, and Froome is not.. as well is the harder stage, so if Froome is the best it will be the stage he can put more time.

The results in the mountains in a race are not just becouse you clibing abilities, but for the raceeffort in all the terrain...so for Froome ome times could be easier to win le Tour than la Vuelta, becouse here there is not that stresfull first week.

If Domoulin was very strong first mountains stage was becouse the rest of the tage wa hilly, but not for climbers, and there was wind... but with more hard climbs before, Chaves will have put important time on him.

If Froome is the best in Andorra stage he will win la vuelta easy.
 
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jens_attacks said:
Froome, the god of taxus.

Of course no. I just only analize cycling. I have no any god, I critized him and sky a lot the other day for the TTT.

But I dont see people in this forum saying: Contador, the god of la florecilla, it looks like if you talk about any other rider is wrong.
 
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Taxus4a said:
jens_attacks said:
Froome, the god of taxus.

Of course no. I just only analize cycling. I have no any god, I critized him and sky a lot the other day for the TTT.

But I dont see people in this forum saying: Contador, the god of la florecilla, it looks like if you talk about any other rider is wrong.

bien dicho Taxus. you can defend and try to post something well thought and analyzed about any rider, but not Froome. in that case you are a fanboy etc etc
:D
 
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Taxus4a said:
jens_attacks said:
Froome, the god of taxus.

Of course no. I just only analize cycling. I have no any god, I critized him and sky a lot the other day for the TTT.

But I dont see people in this forum saying: Contador, the god of la florecilla, it looks like if you talk about any other rider is wrong.

You don't analyse anything. You just slag off Bertie and tell us how much you love Froome
 
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ray j willings said:
Taxus4a said:
jens_attacks said:
Froome, the god of taxus.

Of course no. I just only analize cycling. I have no any god, I critized him and sky a lot the other day for the TTT.

But I dont see people in this forum saying: Contador, the god of la florecilla, it looks like if you talk about any other rider is wrong.

You don't analyse anything. You just slag off Bertie and tell us how much you love Froome

you do the opposite with an emphasis on love to froome. ;)
 
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dacooley said:
ray j willings said:
Taxus4a said:
jens_attacks said:
Froome, the god of taxus.

Of course no. I just only analize cycling. I have no any god, I critized him and sky a lot the other day for the TTT.

But I dont see people in this forum saying: Contador, the god of la florecilla, it looks like if you talk about any other rider is wrong.

You don't analyse anything. You just slag off Bertie and tell us how much you love Froome

you do the opposite with an emphasis on love to froome. ;)

I have hundreds of posts with out a mention of Froome.
Get your facts right jack ;)
 
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Taxus4a said:
jens_attacks said:
Froome, the god of taxus.

Of course no. I just only analize cycling. I have no any god, I critized him and sky a lot the other day for the TTT.

But I dont see people in this forum saying: Contador, the god of la florecilla, it looks like if you talk about any other rider is wrong.

I'm sure Contador has been called the god of La Flo and probably a lot of other stuff as well.