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portugal11 said:
Taxus4a said:
Here it is not a question of first mountain stages, becouse they started already with mountain, so the advantage that complete rider get in the 1st week of le Tour andnshows in the forst mountain stage, is not here.. the best stage for him is Alto Campoo (Fuente del Chivo), becouse there is the hard Escudo, an later there is a flat terrain where the pure climbers will suffer and the last climb is long and not very step...so perfect for him. The stage of this weekend in Granada is good as well for him, but as well for Valverde, Purito...
In Andorra, except if he is clearly the stronger of the race, he must suffer with people as Quintana, Landa, Chaves, Purito, Pozzovivo,...
He has the ITT of Burgos to win la Vuelta, but later there are some tactical and complicated stages.
I think he will win la Vuelta despite all the post Tour..., becouse for Quintana is the first time he do the double Tour-Vuelta, and he should pay it. But not easy task.
froome will suffer from purito? pozzovivo? chavez? these guys are worse climbers than froome!!!
You are wrong if you think like that..
I didnt say he will lose time, and less i didnt say all those riders will put time on him, but IMO, except if Froome is the stronger by difference of la Vuelta (in that case he will put lot of time on everybody, becoue the tage is really hard), ome of those rider will put time on Froome.
By the contrary, IMo froome will put time on those riders in Fuente del Chivo.
Do you think that in a stage as La Pierre what you maeasure is wich is the bet climber?
Do you think Tony Gallopin is a very good climber?
Do you think Tom Domoulin is as good climber as Chaves becoue he was with him in a climb with some km at 10 % and droped Quintana?
In fact, Tom Domoulin is not a climber, Froome as well is not.
In a stage as la Pierre you came from all the 9 first days of le Tour, with echelons, pavé, stress, wind, tt,...
Not complete riders pay that. The final climb is for climbers, but...
That day the rest of the stage was flat as well, and hot was good for both Froome and Quintana, specially, Froome...
In le Tour there wanst any stage all up and down as Andorra is.. the most similar was alp dhuez, and it was the day quintana put time more time on him...As well, for a climber, if he has good recovery, as much climing days, better results...
Froome has good recovery and is good in the third week... but if in the first week there are hard mountains stages, better for people as Quintana... if there is an ITT, Froome will put a lot of time to the rest.
In Andorra stage, those people as better than him IMO, Froome is better in longer stages.. but lot of climbs, not so short, not usually superstep, are not bad for him as well...
Purito is one of the few that have put time on Froome in the mountains if Froome is well). I think just Quintana and Contador did some times as well, so respect. Purito designed Andorra stage and his cicloturist parade was made in the exact route a week ago, and he was there.
Andorra is a stage for pure climbers, and Froome is not.. as well is the harder stage, so if Froome is the best it will be the stage he can put more time.
The results in the mountains in a race are not just becouse you clibing abilities, but for the raceeffort in all the terrain...so for Froome ome times could be easier to win le Tour than la Vuelta, becouse here there is not that stresfull first week.
If Domoulin was very strong first mountains stage was becouse the rest of the tage wa hilly, but not for climbers, and there was wind... but with more hard climbs before, Chaves will have put important time on him.
If Froome is the best in Andorra stage he will win la vuelta easy.