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cantpedal said:
That association makes him very disliked in the USA.
...by the Armstrong mob. Those in the know in the US can appreciate his talents.[/quote]
We are a minority unfortunately. And it's Not just the LA mob.
Anyway this is the Froome thread. So obligatory Froome comment: Froome sure has turned into one of the best cyclists in the world despite his initial 5 years as an incredibly mediocre pro. Still baffled......[/quote]
no more baffling than Alberto beating the most prolific cheat in history with half his team working against
him.[/quote]
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That is not true, Froome in his first Tour, coming from Africa, was with the best in the quuen stage and did very good ITT. contador, at the ame age, in his first Tour could do that, Just he didnt to work and he was regular, always around 40-50. he was at the level of kloden in some ITT in opther races, and he was at the level ops the best in Mont Faron. He showed talent several times. By now condition are better and he has as well improve his knowledges , experience and of course quality, becouse he is older now, at the best age.
In his first Tour the people talked more about his team mate Augustyn, becouse he was the forst to climb the highest climb of France, la Bonnete, but froome showed more potentail for the overall in 3 weeks.
if most of people following cycling didnt realized about that things in another issue, but some people did. His next 2 years where more disapointed, but he had to work and anyway he did some important results, as this one:
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=17758
And of course much more those 5 year as that one, but you need to know how the races unveiled and what mistakes did Froome, becouse he was at 20 taking cycling as a hobby while studing.
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=10427 working for Soler, if you consider that mediocre...
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=16897
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=17928
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=11453
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=10875
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=10559
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=7018
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=7065 (mediocre?)
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=7440
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=8024
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=8201 (he is not a man for one day races, he just arrived in the important races)
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=10162
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=5298 victory, with Mollema, rui costa,... mediocre?
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=5533 victory
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=6238
There are more examples of good performance, but I would need to wexplain the circuntances.
If you consider that incredibly mediocre pro, considering when he started and he came from Africa (you can compare that to Pinot, Contador), the most of the peloton is much worse than incredibly mediocre.
Do you consider Carlos Verona performances mediocre now? He is 23. He has nothing similar to be 3 in Mont Faron, and of course he has not any similar ITT I put of Froome those years.
But you will see how good rider he is.
if you think that, we will talk in 2 years.