Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[HelloDolly]

Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

 

[HelloDolly]

Tinkoff :
61 CONTADOR, Alberto
62 TROFIMOV, Yuri
63 HANSEN, Jesper
64 HERNÁNDEZ, Jesús
65 KIŠERLOVSKI, Robert
66 PAULINHO, Sérgio
67 POLJANSKI, Pawel
68 ROVNY, Ivan

not nearly as strong

 

[Red Rick]

Lol strong team that one. Tactics are simple. Ride the Sky train and hope you can match/counter Froome

 

[PremierAndrew]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

 

[Publicus]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

At present, I'd say 2 (Froome and Thomas). The rest are domestiques. Very strong team tho.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

At present, I'd say 2 (Froome and Thomas). The rest are domestiques. Very strong team tho.

Konig is better than the leaders of quite a few minor teams.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

The reason its getting a bit ridiculous is imo twofold

1. If a team is too strong ..it means the race is decided before it begins and that is not great for the fans
2. Eventually some of the riders will wonder why they are turning up to ride on the front for the first 40km when they could be contending or at least training at home for a their personal target and have the donkey work done by lesser riders ..may backfire for SKY

 

[dacooley]

da dawg as always will try to stomp his authority over the rest right away. i expect bertie to be able to stick to his wheel though

 

[rick james]

Christ, the way some of you are going on you'd think all Sky just have to do is turn up and they've won already...

 

[HelloDolly]

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Christ, the way some of you are going on you'd think all Sky just have to do is turn up and they've won already...

Yeah...its called an opinion forum

and you have to admit that is an unbelievably strong team..one domestique was leader at PN, another co leader at TA..3 are top 10 tens in multiple GTs and another is current World TT Champion

 

[Publicus]

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Christ, the way some of you are going on you'd think all Sky just have to do is turn up and they've won already...

lol. yes it does seem that is the case.

 

[dacooley]

that will demand a considerably bigger effort, however sky riders will still have to pretend to suffer on the climbs -)

 

[rick james]

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Christ, the way some of you are going on you'd think all Sky just have to do is turn up and they've won already...

Yeah...its called an opinion forum

and you have to admit that is an unbelievably strong team..one domestique was leader at PN, another co leader at TA..3 are top 10 tens in multiple GTs and another is current World TT Champion

Yes sky have a strong squad and great talent to pick from, other teams can match and better their budget. its up to the other teams to better Sky.

 

[DBotero]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

The team is from PCS so changes might still appear.They didn't even have the Milano-Sanremo team listed yet.Plus they really love to come out with last minute changes to their roster.That team is too stacked anyway,i don't like it.

 

[rick james]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

where did you get that team from? i can't see anything online about it

 

[del1962]

real lineup

Ian Boswell, Chris Froome, Vasil Kiryienka, Mikel Nieve, Wout Poels, Nicolas Roche, Ben Swift, Geraint Thomas
Read more at http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/news/article/75107#1AET7Ur8eIDCvSbU.99

 

[Angliru]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

The reason its getting a bit ridiculous is imo twofold

1. If a team is too strong ..it means the race is decided before it begins and that is not great for the fans
2. Eventually some of the riders will wonder why they are turning up to ride on the front for the first 40km when they could be contending or at least training at home for a their personal target and have the donkey work done by lesser riders ..may backfire for SKY

I recall Brailsford saying that he isn't too keen on developing gc riders because he feels all he is doing is developing them for the team that they jump to next. That is just part of the sport and when you have the depth of talent that Sky has you simply can't hang on to all of that talent. Like you said, eventually a rider is going to want to explore his potential without the limitations of riding for someone else.

 

[HelloDolly]

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real lineup

Ian Boswell, Chris Froome, Vasil Kiryienka, Mikel Nieve, Wout Poels, Nicolas Roche, Ben Swift, Geraint Thomas
Read more at http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/news/article/75107#1AET7Ur8eIDCvSbU.99

Well with Swift for Konig ..its still a very strong team considering how Swift was riding at PN

 

[HelloDolly]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

The reason its getting a bit ridiculous is imo twofold

1. If a team is too strong ..it means the race is decided before it begins and that is not great for the fans
2. Eventually some of the riders will wonder why they are turning up to ride on the front for the first 40km when they could be contending or at least training at home for a their personal target and have the donkey work done by lesser riders ..may backfire for SKY

I recall Brailsford saying that he isn't too keen on developing gc riders because he feels all he is doing is developing them for the team that they jump to next. That is just part of the sport and when you have the depth of talent that Sky has you simply can't hang on to all of that talent. Like you said, eventually a rider is going to want to explore his potential without the limitations of riding for someone else.

But Braislfords is happy to develop Thomas ? Seems to me developing non British GC men is definitely NOT policy
And I thought riders like Konig , Kwait, went there to develop as GC men

 

[rick james]

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real lineup

Ian Boswell, Chris Froome, Vasil Kiryienka, Mikel Nieve, Wout Poels, Nicolas Roche, Ben Swift, Geraint Thomas
Read more at http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/news/article/75107#1AET7Ur8eIDCvSbU.99

Well with Swift for Konig ..its still a very strong team considering how Swift was riding at PN

Yip, Swift was looking strong

 

[rick james]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

The reason its getting a bit ridiculous is imo twofold

1. If a team is too strong ..it means the race is decided before it begins and that is not great for the fans
2. Eventually some of the riders will wonder why they are turning up to ride on the front for the first 40km when they could be contending or at least training at home for a their personal target and have the donkey work done by lesser riders ..may backfire for SKY

I recall Brailsford saying that he isn't too keen on developing gc riders because he feels all he is doing is developing them for the team that they jump to next. That is just part of the sport and when you have the depth of talent that Sky has you simply can't hang on to all of that talent. Like you said, eventually a rider is going to want to explore his potential without the limitations of riding for someone else.

But Braislfords is happy to develop Thomas ? Seems to me developing non British GC men is definitely NOT policy
And I thought riders like Konig , Kwait, went there to develop as GC men

Should Landa just walk away right now?

 

[del1962]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

The reason its getting a bit ridiculous is imo twofold

1. If a team is too strong ..it means the race is decided before it begins and that is not great for the fans
2. Eventually some of the riders will wonder why they are turning up to ride on the front for the first 40km when they could be contending or at least training at home for a their personal target and have the donkey work done by lesser riders ..may backfire for SKY

I recall Brailsford saying that he isn't too keen on developing gc riders because he feels all he is doing is developing them for the team that they jump to next. That is just part of the sport and when you have the depth of talent that Sky has you simply can't hang on to all of that talent. Like you said, eventually a rider is going to want to explore his potential without the limitations of riding for someone else.

But Braislfords is happy to develop Thomas ? Seems to me developing non British GC men is definitely NOT policy
And I thought riders like Konig , Kwait, went there to develop as GC men

Porte was developed though. Landa signed for what, leadership in Giro

 

[Taxus4a]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

Uran leave Sky and he is 2th in Giro. Porte leaves SKY and win in Willunga and podium in Nice, but is early to evaluate by his different targets, Rogers leaves SKy and win in Zoncolan,...Gerrans leaves SKY and win 2 monuments, San Remo and Lieje,... of course to be in SKy is important, it is a team with the best profesionals and resources, but just the good riders can perform. I dont see Nieve o Koning better in SKy as well.

SKY in Catalunya is much better than Tinkoff, but Tinkoff has a good and expert team to work, people as Paulinho maybe cant be podium in a Tour, but can do a very important job. And dont forget Trofimov was top ten in the last Giro.

 

[pastronef]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

Uran leave Sky and he is 2th in Giro. Porte leaves SKY and win in Willunga and podium in Nice, but is early to evaluate by his different targets, Rogers leaves SKy and win in Zoncolan,...Gerrans leaves SKY and win 2 monuments, San Remo and Lieje,... of course to be in SKy is important, it is a team with the best profesionals and resources, but just the good riders can perform. I dont see Nieve o Koning better in SKy as well.

SKY in Catalunya is much better than Tinkoff, but Tinkoff has a good and expert team to work, people as Paulinho maybe cant be podium in a Tour, but can do a very important job. And dont forget Trofimov was top ten in the last Giro.

I wonder what happened with Konig. he was down to ride Catalunya but now not on the list anymore.
maybe he´ll ride Coppi e Bartali

 

[HelloDolly]

Should Landa just walk away right now?

I thought he was already developed ...Accoring to most posts on here he is good to go (and win GTs)

Porte was developed

Maybe over developed But got only one chance and it was sign Landa for Giro, etc And after alot of top domestique work