Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[del1962]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

Uran leave Sky and he is 2th in Giro. Porte leaves SKY and win in Willunga and podium in Nice, but is early to evaluate by his different targets, Rogers leaves SKy and win in Zoncolan,...Gerrans leaves SKY and win 2 monuments, San Remo and Lieje,... of course to be in SKy is important, it is a team with the best profesionals and resources, but just the good riders can perform. I dont see Nieve o Koning better in SKy as well.

SKY in Catalunya is much better than Tinkoff, but Tinkoff has a good and expert team to work, people as Paulinho maybe cant be podium in a Tour, but can do a very important job. And dont forget Trofimov was top ten in the last Giro.

I wonder what happened with Konig. he was down to ride Catalunya but now not on the list anymore.
maybe he´ll ride Coppi e Bartali

Didn't Konig have a crash earlier season and has he fully recovered from injury

 

[Vasilis]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

Uran leave Sky and he is 2th in Giro. Porte leaves SKY and win in Willunga and podium in Nice, but is early to evaluate by his different targets, Rogers leaves SKy and win in Zoncolan,...Gerrans leaves SKY and win 2 monuments, San Remo and Lieje,... of course to be in SKy is important, it is a team with the best profesionals and resources, but just the good riders can perform. I dont see Nieve o Koning better in SKy as well.

SKY in Catalunya is much better than Tinkoff, but Tinkoff has a good and expert team to work, people as Paulinho maybe cant be podium in a Tour, but can do a very important job. And dont forget Trofimov was top ten in the last Giro.

I'd like to point out that Uran was already 2nd in the Giro when he was with Sky, Porte already won on Willunga with Sky twice, same goes for PN.
I actually heard talk about Uran rejoining Sky before he settled for Cannondale. I thought he left Sky to go for the Tour, but he went to the Giro just like he did at Sky, and went to the Tour only last year and after riding the Giro, and he didn't have the form in either.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Should Landa just walk away right now?

I thought he was already developed ...Accoring to most posts on here he is good to go (and win GTs)

Porte was developed

Maybe over developed But got only one chance and it was sign Landa for Giro, etc And after alot of top domestique work

Porte was a semideveloped rider before SKy, he did amazings ITT, and he was top ten in his first GT he was 7thm without the break maybe 10th or better), the hardest in climbs, il Giro. He just was so joung in cycling, and even in age, and now he is a mature rider. of course to be at SKY helped more to develop.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

Uran leave Sky and he is 2th in Giro. Porte leaves SKY and win in Willunga and podium in Nice, but is early to evaluate by his different targets, Rogers leaves SKy and win in Zoncolan,...Gerrans leaves SKY and win 2 monuments, San Remo and Lieje,... of course to be in SKy is important, it is a team with the best profesionals and resources, but just the good riders can perform. I dont see Nieve o Koning better in SKy as well.

SKY in Catalunya is much better than Tinkoff, but Tinkoff has a good and expert team to work, people as Paulinho maybe cant be podium in a Tour, but can do a very important job. And dont forget Trofimov was top ten in the last Giro.

I'd like to point out that Uran was already 2nd in the Giro when he was with Sky, Porte already won on Willunga with Sky twice, same goes for PN.
I actually heard talk about Uran rejoining Sky before he settled for Cannondale. I thought he left Sky to go for the Tour, but he went to the Giro just like he did at Sky, and went to the Tour only last year and after riding the Giro, and he didn't have the form in either.

Yes, and Uran was Lombardia Podium at 21 years old, but there was a time when people aid to be in SKY is to get best result or to be clearly better. everybody want to go to the team with best resources and the team who paid more, better than the best team in results, that is Movistar, and of course SKY is a tema who work very well with riders, but what I see is than riders are similar an in the case of Gerrans better after to leave SKY,.. in the case os Nordaugh, no, but he had some problems and he got some good results as well, so... i dont see that difference. SKY has big riders, becouse thay can pay them very well. I dont like that, but the world works that way. Movistar is the only WT team in Spain and SKy the only one in GB, too important countries, so it is normal they have good level

 

[Angliru]

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His issue was that he was developing these riders in all eventuality to be future rivals, knowing that many would leave Sky eventually to pursue their own interests as leaders of these teams.

 

[HelloDolly]

I imagine that its hard to leave SKY even if you have no opportunities...what with the high salaries, the nice gear, facilities , not to mention your own mattress and probably someone to fluff your pillows

I mean where do you go after that ?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I imagine that its hard to leave SKY even if you have no opportunities...what with the high salaries, the nice gear, facilities , not to mention your own mattress and probably someone to fluff your pillows

I mean where do you go after that ?

A team that allows Nutella, of course!

 

[JRanton]

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Catalunya Team : Froome, Thomas, Nieve, Konig, Poels, Roche, Kiryenka, Boswell

Seems abit unreal...How many of these guys are better than leaders in another team ? Also at the end of the day they will still have to fetch bottles and ride in then wind ...no matter than you may be able to do a Top10/ Top 5/ Top 3

I was gonna say this is getting ridiculous, but then I remembered Sky once had Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Rogers, Uran, Thomas

Uran leave Sky and he is 2th in Giro. Porte leaves SKY and win in Willunga and podium in Nice, but is early to evaluate by his different targets, Rogers leaves SKy and win in Zoncolan,...Gerrans leaves SKY and win 2 monuments, San Remo and Lieje,... of course to be in SKy is important, it is a team with the best profesionals and resources, but just the good riders can perform. I dont see Nieve o Koning better in SKy as well.

SKY in Catalunya is much better than Tinkoff, but Tinkoff has a good and expert team to work, people as Paulinho maybe cant be podium in a Tour, but can do a very important job. And dont forget Trofimov was top ten in the last Giro.

I wonder what happened with Konig. he was down to ride Catalunya but now not on the list anymore.
maybe he´ll ride Coppi e Bartali

Didn't Konig have a crash earlier season and has he fully recovered from injury

Yes, he had a crash in Valencia and hasn't raced since. Sky's planned Giro team is beset with problems really. Landa, Intxausti, Konig and Lopez have all hardly raced so far due to different reasons and Viviani needs to get some serious road miles in his legs in time for the Giro after all his track training.

 

[staubsauger]

Maybe this year Kennaugh finally's gonna get his chance to lead Sky at the Giro by pure accident.

Otherwise they might be forced to rely on rookie Moscon for some breakaways!

Landa or at least König really need to get fit.

There are always Viviani and Swift of course. But those two ain't really worth it, leading Sky during a gt. I'm sorry!

For Froome. There ain't no need to worry so far. Still plenty of time for all those guys to get back in form for the Tour. Except Intxausti of course. Froome might even be able to pick an absolute dream team in July, because of this.

 

[rick james]

Starting to worry a bit about the Dawgs form for Catalunya, would like to have seen him race more before he faces a big showdown with a few of the GT guys

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Starting to worry a bit about the Dawgs form for Catalunya, would like to have seen him race more before he faces a big showdown with a few of the GT guys

Last season he used the race purely to get the miles into his legs. he should be a lot more competitive next week although that won't be hard, of course as long as he doesn't crash. It's not the end of the world if he's a little under cooked at this stage.

Even at last years Dauphine you could see him getting stronger with every passing stage and arrived at the first week of the Tour in super shape.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Starting to worry a bit about the Dawgs form for Catalunya, would like to have seen him race more before he faces a big showdown with a few of the GT guys

Last season he used the race purely to get the miles into his legs. he should be a lot more competitive next week although that won't be hard, of course as long as he doesn't crash. It's not the end of the world if he's a little under cooked at this stage.

Even at last years Dauphine you could see him getting stronger with every passing stage and arrived at the first week of the Tour in super shape.

He wont start too early esp if targeting the Olymics ...he is not like Contador and able to keep form longterm imo

Maybe Henao will get a chance at the Giro as the proposed team look shaky

 

[May0maniac]

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Starting to worry a bit about the Dawgs form for Catalunya, would like to have seen him race more before he faces a big showdown with a few of the GT guys

Last season he used the race purely to get the miles into his legs. he should be a lot more competitive next week although that won't be hard, of course as long as he doesn't crash. It's not the end of the world if he's a little under cooked at this stage.

Even at last years Dauphine you could see him getting stronger with every passing stage and arrived at the first week of the Tour in super shape.

He wont start too early esp if targeting the Olymics ...he is not like Contador and able to keep form longterm imo

Maybe Henao will get a chance at the Giro as the proposed team look shaky

He already tried that last year and still faded at the end of the Tour, so I don't know if he will be able to ride the Tour and keep his form for the Olympics.

 

[del1962]

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Starting to worry a bit about the Dawgs form for Catalunya, would like to have seen him race more before he faces a big showdown with a few of the GT guys

Last season he used the race purely to get the miles into his legs. he should be a lot more competitive next week although that won't be hard, of course as long as he doesn't crash. It's not the end of the world if he's a little under cooked at this stage.

Even at last years Dauphine you could see him getting stronger with every passing stage and arrived at the first week of the Tour in super shape.

His drop in form was illness related though

He wont start too early esp if targeting the Olymics ...he is not like Contador and able to keep form longterm imo

Maybe Henao will get a chance at the Giro as the proposed team look shaky

He already tried that last year and still faded at the end of the Tour, so I don't know if he will be able to ride the Tour and keep his form for the Olympics.

 

[Red Rick]

Is Froome on the preliminary list to ride Pais Vasco?

 

[DBotero]

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Is Froome on the preliminary list to ride Pais Vasco?

That's Henao domain.Landa is suppose to ride it too.Froome next race after Catalunya should be Romandie.

 

[Red Rick]

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Is Froome on the preliminary list to ride Pais Vasco?

That's Henao domain.Landa is suppose to ride it too.Froome next race after Catalunya should be Romandie.

Thanks, I was a little bit confused.

 

[Vasilis]

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Starting to worry a bit about the Dawgs form for Catalunya, would like to have seen him race more before he faces a big showdown with a few of the GT guys

Last season he used the race purely to get the miles into his legs. he should be a lot more competitive next week although that won't be hard, of course as long as he doesn't crash. It's not the end of the world if he's a little under cooked at this stage.

Even at last years Dauphine you could see him getting stronger with every passing stage and arrived at the first week of the Tour in super shape.

He wont start too early esp if targeting the Olymics ...he is not like Contador and able to keep form longterm imo

Maybe Henao will get a chance at the Giro as the proposed team look shaky

He already tried that last year and still faded at the end of the Tour, so I don't know if he will be able to ride the Tour and keep his form for the Olympics.

I don't think you can base it on last year, because he fell ill, and didn't lose his form per se, although, the fact that he fell ill shows that he still might have trouble maintaining his form.

 

[sir fly]

Would be nice to have an insight in the depths of his summertime during Catalunya..

 

[SeriousSam]

It will be interesting to see where he's at, but given the different run ups to his 2013 and 2015 Tours, both of which he utterly dominated, Catalunya won't provide us with much information

 

[Taxus4a]

He wanst very strong today, but he was there, and he finished strong, so that is important for him, he always have problems when there is 20 riders remaining and someone important attack.

No big conclusions, Thomas is afected by his crash in San Remo and that affect all the team, but anyway the team put a big pace in Canto and put the group in 40 riders... it wanst till 10 Km to the end to see again 40 riders remaining.

Here there is more level than in CI or Romandie, but we use to see him winning races...

 

[CTQ]

He said that he is still searching his race legs like last year. He was 71th last year.
and won TDF. Not a bad Catalunya for someone who searchs his legs

 

[del1962]

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He said that he is still searching his race legs like last year. He was 71th last year.
and won TDF. Not a bad Catalunya for someone who searchs his legs

More like a 2014 performance than a 2015

 

[rick james]

I'm sure he will be happy tonight...we all know he is race rusty, he done ok

 

[Angliru]

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He said that he is still searching his race legs like last year. He was 71th last year.
and won TDF. Not a bad Catalunya for someone who searchs his legs

I thought he came into last year's event recovering from some type of illness. It's hard to say what his result would've been had he come in healthy.