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Who would have known!
Valv.Piti said:He probably has in 09, 10, 11 or....Jspear said:
Who would have known!
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Except the best time trialist of all times, whom he beat in a TDF time trial.Gloin22 said:LaFlorecita said:Fun fact (although irrelevant) Mr Contador has twice as many career ITT wins as Mr Froometherealthing said:
When Contador dominated, there were barely any good Itters though, **** Grabsch won WCC, says it all
Froome looks weak. the excuse of delaying superpeak for the period july-september is not taken. unlike AC and Nairo, he never makes big statements like 'i'll go for the tour-vuelta double, hundred percent'. he is quite moderate in this regard, first major objectives are the dauphine and the tour. only after winning the tour he usually decides to try to win the vuelta. that was quite an embarassing effort by him. let's see what climbs deliver. thus far, I don't forsee him outperforming Richie and Valverde in the Dauphine.
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of course he knows what he needs to be at peak of his game when needed most then all of us combined. however it doesn't guarantee him from making mistakes as any other human being. it seems quite obvious froome was planning to win the dauphine, but something went wrong today. bring on the mountains!
let's not overreact like some bertie's fans tend to do.rick james said:
of course he knows what he needs to be at peak of his game when needed most then all of us combined. however it doesn't guarantee him from making mistakes as any other human being. it seems quite obvious froome was planning to win the dauphine, but something went wrong today. bring on the mountains!
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It seems odd. He also planned to win Romandie, the way his team rode on the queen stage before Porte dropped him as easy as anything, sprinting up the mountain and putting 2 (?) minutes on him on a pretty easy climb.dacooley said:of course he knows what he needs to be at peak of his game when needed most then all of us combined. however it doesn't guarantee him from making mistakes as any other human being.rick james said:
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mont du chat and solaison stages are going to answer all possible questions. probably he has some health issues or it's kind of an off-year. either way the tour is getting increasingly promising and open. richie starting the tour as number 1 condender is a thing to watch.Valv.Piti said:It seems odd. He also planned to win Romandie, the way his team rode on the queen stage before Porte dropped him as easy as anything, sprinting up the mountain and putting 2 (?) minutes on him on a pretty easy climb.dacooley said:of course he knows what he needs to be at peak of his game when needed most then all of us combined. however it doesn't guarantee him from making mistakes as any other human being.rick james said:
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Its as if Froome believes that his numbers are good enough to win only to be thoroughly dissapointed.
I've never seen Froome this bad at this point in the season and it IS time to worry.
But then, we've seen performances in Catalunya in Lo Port which were pretty decent at that time to suggest that the base is there.
This!Valv.Piti said:It seems odd. He also planned to win Romandie, the way his team rode on the queen stage before Porte dropped him as easy as anything, sprinting up the mountain and putting 2 (?) minutes on him on a pretty easy climb.dacooley said:of course he knows what he needs to be at peak of his game when needed most then all of us combined. however it doesn't guarantee him from making mistakes as any other human being.rick james said:
Its as if Froome believes that his numbers are good enough to win only to be thoroughly dissapointed.
I've never seen Froome this bad at this point in the season and it IS time to worry.
But then, we've seen performances in Catalunya in Lo Port which were pretty decent at that time to suggest that the base is there.
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Or he's going to do a Nibali (2014).
dacooley said:mont du chat and solaison stages are going to answer all possible questions. probably he has some health issues or it's kind of an off-year. either way the tour is getting increasingly promising and open. richie starting the tour as number 1 condender is a thing to watch.Valv.Piti said:It seems odd. He also planned to win Romandie, the way his team rode on the queen stage before Porte dropped him as easy as anything, sprinting up the mountain and putting 2 (?) minutes on him on a pretty easy climb.dacooley said:of course he knows what he needs to be at peak of his game when needed most then all of us combined. however it doesn't guarantee him from making mistakes as any other human being.rick james said:
Or he's going to do a Nibali (2014).
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Valverde, Sagan and Froome are 3 best cyclist in the world in the past 3-4 years, hands down. Their order however is subjective thing, you can make a case for any of them to be the best.
As for Valverde, don't be so sure he would take that Tour instead of all that Liege and Fleche wins. Nor I would do so. He was asked once, would he trade all his Silver and Bronze medals from WC for one Gold? He said no, as much as he'd love to win WC he would never trade his medals for any win.
silvergrenade said:Valv.Piti said:I don't disagree - Froome is the best GT-rider in the world, but Sagan and Valverde are to me the better cyclists. The jury is out on GVA.silvergrenade said:
Edit: Especially the latter who I consider the undisputed best rider in the world, Valverde that is.
I also agree that Valverde is possibly be the most versatile rider in the world. He is just class.
But, if he is given a choice to give up on all his FW wins for one Tour win he'd take that. Anyday.
Conversely, if Froome is given the same deal with all FW and LBL wins in place of all of his 3 tour wins, he'll never take that.
Tour victory is the crown jewel is cycling, which makes him the best cyclist right now. Ofc, to each their own and I respect people who think Sagan, Valverde or GVA are better.
Valverde, Sagan and Froome are 3 best cyclist in the world in the past 3-4 years, hands down. Their order however is subjective thing, you can make a case for any of them to be the best.
As for Valverde, don't be so sure he would take that Tour instead of all that Liege and Fleche wins. Nor I would do so. He was asked once, would he trade all his Silver and Bronze medals from WC for one Gold? He said no, as much as he'd love to win WC he would never trade his medals for any win.
We are so used to riders winning 5,4,3 in a row we forget they are not invincible. He may have stuffed it or just isn't feeling good.
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Can't you two get on the same page? Your usual coordinated effort of defaming seems to have slid off the tracks.
rick james said:
Can't you two get on the same page? Your usual coordinated effort of defaming seems to have slid off the tracks.
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That's more like it. Back on script.
dacooley said:let's not overreact like some bertie's fans tend to do.rick james said:
That's more like it.
Back on script.
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Froome will be back to flying up the mountains of France come July. There is no need for his fans to panic. Now Porte could give him a battle if he can hold it together for the 3 weeks. As stated earlier, last year was evidence of him turning the page from his years of having days that took him out of contention.
silvergrenade said:This!Valv.Piti said:It seems odd. He also planned to win Romandie, the way his team rode on the queen stage before Porte dropped him as easy as anything, sprinting up the mountain and putting 2 (?) minutes on him on a pretty easy climb.dacooley said:of course he knows what he needs to be at peak of his game when needed most then all of us combined. however it doesn't guarantee him from making mistakes as any other human being.rick james said:
Its as if Froome believes that his numbers are good enough to win only to be thoroughly dissapointed.
I've never seen Froome this bad at this point in the season and it IS time to worry.
But then, we've seen performances in Catalunya in Lo Port which were pretty decent at that time to suggest that the base is there.
Froome will be back to flying up the mountains of France come July. There is no need for his fans to panic. Now Porte could give him a battle if he can hold it together for the 3 weeks. As stated earlier, last year was evidence of him turning the page from his years of having days that took him out of contention.
“I’ve still got three weeks now after the Dauphine in terms of time trial work and it’s obviously something that I’m going to have to do a bit more work on. I’ve done everything right up until now and I’ll just keep going up until the Tour.”
Seems like he hasn't been training too much on the TT bike, remember in 2015 he did the same and had a very poor TT on stage 1 of the Tour, a week later Pierre Saint-Martin happened, so let's not get too carried away.
Seems like he hasn't been training too much on the TT bike, remember in 2015 he did the same and had a very poor TT on stage 1 of the Tour, a week later Pierre Saint-Martin happened, so let's not get too carried away.
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When did he beat Indurain?Cance > TheRest said:Except the best time trialist of all times, whom he beat in a TDF time trial.Gloin22 said:LaFlorecita said:Fun fact (although irrelevant) Mr Contador has twice as many career ITT wins as Mr Froometherealthing said:
When Contador dominated, there were barely any good Itters though, **** Grabsch won WCC, says it all
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Edit: I mean, compared to his climbing in that race.
Needs context, as I said he did much better in the time trial in Romandie so thats pretty worrisome aint it?Pricey_sky said:
Edit: I mean, compared to his climbing in that race.
Well now I'm worried
I guess we'll know on stage 6 or 7 the latest but this isn't a good look.
I guess we'll know on stage 6 or 7 the latest but this isn't a good look.
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