Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[Red Rick]

The Giro does not suit Froome, and if he's declining I don't think he can win that one

 

[dacooley]

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The Giro does not suit Froome, and if he's declining I don't think he can win that one

With Sky A squad, Froome is going to tame the Giro the same like he does with the Tour. Another thing is that the age is not his favour and he seems to be starting declining, so it's too late to try the Giro.

 

[wouterkaas]

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No way he rides the Giro unless he has 6 TDF's. Holding the record outright matters a hell of a lot more to him (if he has half a brain) than satisfying some internet warriors who think GC palmares is incomplete without having won all 3.

Also, he must be thinking, gimme my f'ing knighthood, Brad got one and i'm much better than him, more TDF wins, not Giro wins gets him there.

Don't forget that Wiggins was world champion and has several olympic gold medals among a load of other prizes. I do agree that knighthood for Froome would be in place anyway, both very impressive palmares and a huge contribution to promoting cycling/sports in the UK

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

like i feared last week already, even when he was 2nd behind Aru. Froome has this in the bag. There is no threat to him at all unless he collapses completely on Izoard.

Bardet and Uran need at least 1 minute. And that is very unlikely to happen. It's very similar to the Giro, but now with the TT man having also the strongest team. So it's easy for Christopher..

 

[SeriousSam]

Froome should definitely ride the Tour every single time until he no longer has a good chance to win it. It would be lunacy to forgo a possible Tour victory to target the Giro

The marginal value of a Tour victory might decrease in the number of Tours already won, but it never sinks below the marginal value of winning the Giro, or the Vuelta.

 

[TMP402]

Second to a teammate in 2012, crashed out in 2014. If he wins this, it could have been his fifth or sixth if not for bad luck etc.

 

[SeriousSam]

Year, if we count the number of years a rider had a Tour-winning level of performance, Froome has now equalled or surpassed Indurain and only behind Armstrong.

 

[TomLPC]

What kind of team is froome looking at for the vuelta? I'll go with something like this

Froome
Wouter
Nieve
Deignan
Lopez
Rosa
Stannard
Moscon

So 1 more, could be anyone really, Boswell, Viviani, Elisonde, Henao, Geriant sastre?

 

[PremierAndrew]

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What kind of team is froome looking at for the vuelta? I'll go with something like this

Froome
Wouter
Nieve
Deignan
Lopez
Rosa
Stannard
Moscon

So 1 more, could be anyone really, Boswell, Viviani, Elisonde, Henao, Geriant sastre?

Don't forget Kennaugh

Deignan was insanely good in the Giro, if he turns up in similar form at the Vuelta, Froome may have the strongest team in Spain too

 

[IndianCyclist]

i think
Froome
Wouter
Deignan
Lopez
Rosa
Stannard
Moscon
Boswell
Elisonde

 

[del1962]

Re: Re:

What kind of team is froome looking at for the vuelta? I'll go with something like this

Froome
Wouter
Nieve
Deignan
Lopez
Rosa
Stannard
Moscon

So 1 more, could be anyone really, Boswell, Viviani, Elisonde, Henao, Geriant sastre?

Don't forget Kennaugh

Deignan was insanely good in the Giro, if he turns up in similar form at the Vuelta, Froome may have the strongest team in Spain too

Moscon would be improvement on Knees or Rowe, no one like Kwia there though

 

[cellardoor]

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Year, if we count the number of years a rider had a Tour-winning level of performance, Froome has now equalled or surpassed Indurain and only behind Armstrong.

Got to win a couple of Giros before he can be talked about in the same breath as Indurain.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Never really in doubt. Basically had 1 bad stage, which is also his average in the Tour, he always has 1 bad stage.

 

[Red Rick]

Congrats on being the only guy to try and win and succeeding by default. The only man who deserved it.

 

[loge1884]

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Year, if we count the number of years a rider had a Tour-winning level of performance, Froome has now equalled or surpassed Indurain and only behind Armstrong.

not quite: Bernard Hinault won 78, 79, 81, 82, 85, came in second 84 and 86 and had to abandon while being on winning level performance in 80 ... missed the tour in 83 ---- so that makes at least 8 years of Tour-winning level of performance ...

not quite sure what you call "Tour-winning level of performance", but Joop Zoetemelk finished in the top5 11 times (albeight only winning once)

 

[spalco]

Eddy Merckx surely also had more than 5 Tour-winning-level years as well. But still, good company to be in.

 

[Merckx index]

Froome won this Tour on the short opening ITT:

After stage 1:

Froome
Bardet :39
Uran :51

After stage 18:

Froome
Bardet :23
Uran :29

 

[hazaran]

That gap he opened today on Bardet on a matter of seconds was super impressive. Sure, he maybe lacks that last final percent to twist the knife but if he is going to keep or improve his form for the vuelta its a done deal.

 

[jmdirt]

CF has had a great TdF! The TT still has a slight edge of possibilities, but this is his TdF.

 

[Ataraxus]

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That gap he opened today on Bardet on a matter of seconds was super impressive. Sure, he maybe lacks that last final percent to twist the knife but if he is going to keep or improve his form for the vuelta its a done deal.

That attack was the stupidest thing Froome has ever done in this Tour.
He spent a lot of energy in 100 meters followed by a half K descent which neutralized the gap and clearly cost him in the final K.

 

[glassmoon]

If Froome is @ his 90% with Vuelta in back of his mind, this TdF played out perfectly for him...

 

[Taxus4a]

What a great rider. It is a pity he is in SKY, but he is going to wina very difficult Tour for him, with rain some days, very little ITT and with the first mountain stage erarly in the race, so without the possibility to destroy the climbers in the first mountain finish.
It seems clear that just a route like this with rain and a Quintana at his best shape can beat him. All things united.
Cycling is not just Tours, but he is a huge rider, no so loved just becouse he is in a team with big budget, but nobody give him away anything since he decided late in his life become cyclist there in South Africa. He started TdF in 2008 when it wanst planned and he showed an amazing huge potential that confirmed 3 years later to become the best Tour rider since lot of time.

I have read he is not at his best..I dont think so.. The best Aru possible has been far from him,

 

[Blanco]

Re:

What a great rider. It is a pity he is in SKY, but he is going to wina very difficult Tour for him, with rain some days, very little ITT and with the first mountain stage erarly in the race, so without the possibility to destroy the climbers in the first mountain finish.
It seems clear that just a route like this with rain and a Quintana at his best shape can beat him. All things united.
Cycling is not just Tours, but he is a huge rider, no so loved just becouse he is in a team with big budget, but nobody give him away anything since he decided late in his life become cyclist there in South Africa. He started TdF in 2008 when it wanst planned and he showed an amazing huge potential that confirmed 3 years later to become the best Tour rider since lot of time.

I have read he is not at his best..I dont think so.. The best Aru possible has been far from him,

Yeah he stormed the cycling world in that 2008 :lol:

 

[Taxus4a]

Re: Re:

What a great rider. It is a pity he is in SKY, but he is going to wina very difficult Tour for him, with rain some days, very little ITT and with the first mountain stage erarly in the race, so without the possibility to destroy the climbers in the first mountain finish.
It seems clear that just a route like this with rain and a Quintana at his best shape can beat him. All things united.
Cycling is not just Tours, but he is a huge rider, no so loved just becouse he is in a team with big budget, but nobody give him away anything since he decided late in his life become cyclist there in South Africa. He started TdF in 2008 when it wanst planned and he showed an amazing huge potential that confirmed 3 years later to become the best Tour rider since lot of time.

I have read he is not at his best..I dont think so.. The best Aru possible has been far from him,

Yeah he stormed the cycling world in that 2008 :lol:

To storm is bad, it is better to make amazing things and just a few people realized.

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

What a great rider. It is a pity he is in SKY, but he is going to wina very difficult Tour for him, with rain some days, very little ITT and with the first mountain stage erarly in the race, so without the possibility to destroy the climbers in the first mountain finish.
It seems clear that just a route like this with rain and a Quintana at his best shape can beat him. All things united.
Cycling is not just Tours, but he is a huge rider, no so loved just becouse he is in a team with big budget, but nobody give him away anything since he decided late in his life become cyclist there in South Africa. He started TdF in 2008 when it wanst planned and he showed an amazing huge potential that confirmed 3 years later to become the best Tour rider since lot of time.

I have read he is not at his best..I dont think so.. The best Aru possible has been far from him,

Yeah he stormed the cycling world in that 2008 :lol:

Taxus noticed him in 2008.