Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[miguelindurain111]

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I dislike Froome mostly for Sky and everything it stands for. Arrogant, rich, bullying team sponsored by Murdoch. Urgh.

Damn those rich people and their ability to arrange talent...........most successful teams today in popular sports are owned by rich people or corporations.........Chariots of Fire was a long time ago old chap. A certain Mr Tinkoff who signed a certain Senor Contador is also rich.

lol I have to agree that if Mr. Murdoch and company are altogether rich and making money off the Sky Team and the work of Sky riders, so are all other owners. It would be interesting to see the percentage of profits from team to team and how that compares to rider salaries on those same teams. It is possible that owners of teams with smaller rider salaries are making more profit in hand than Mr. Murdoch is making. Funny how so many fans are critical of Team Sky for how much they pay their riders (although no definitive numbers have actually been produced which makes the accusations just speculation) but fail to acknowledge how much money is put into R&D, staffing, technology, kid's program, equipment, nutrition among other things. It is absolutely true that sports owners are rich and are not worried about their next meal. I wonder how many owners could up their budget but refuse to do so because they have to share more of the pie with their staff and riders. Hmmmm...I get that fans are going to hate success. A lot of hockey fans hate the Montreal Canadiens, a lot of baseball fans hate the New York Yankees, a lot of soccer fans hate Manchester United and the list goes on. Why should it be any different with cycling. Face it, Team Sky may seem boring to some but I rather enjoy the tactical side of the sport. They are successful at what they do. Instead of whining about their success why don't other teams become better at racing? I, for one, am impressed by Team Sky's ability to control a race, their composure under pressure, their desire to evolve the sport's technology and the just the overall presence they bring to a race.

Yes, yes and yes.

 

[portugal11]

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So what you're saying is that it is just the Contador fans that dislike Froome?

of course not, but i suspect you are aware like no one else loving contador goes together with rooting for froome really badly.

Me. I really like froome but I strongly dislike sky

 

[Lv426]

I don't hate Froome . Look at it like this . He is a rider who before joining sky had shown nothing that led anyone to believe he would win a GT. He made easily the best choice for himself . He knows full well his limitations . He's never going to be able to ride or race like Bertie or any flamboyant stylish attacking rider. Froome has strengths and that's how Sky ride and train ,to his strengths . I have / had a friend ( we don't talk much now) who loves Sky . He thinks the sun shines out of DB's bottom hole. I don't mean to stereotype people but a lot of sky fans fit into a certain type of cycling fan , quite conservative and very narrow minded and always yes always make excuses when Froome gets beat . Froome cracked the other day and the shock among his fans . He has been beaten on climbs before . He has had riders put serious time into him before . He has been matched and beaten when he's done one of his last km crazy spinning attacks yet a huge thing is made of it as though he has never been beaten.
Ned boulting the commentator is a prime example of a typical sky fan always forgets the defeats or starts trying to make excuses for the defeats. Even the cycling maven posted a vid in shock that Froome got dropped. Like I said previously Froome has never faced riders like a in form Bertie or a rider of that calibre ,when he has he has been soundly beaten like 2014 . There is definitely a weird sort of elitism in cycling. When I go out riding / training and zoom past a load of Rapha wearing jersey boys and drop back to have a chat they are always dismissive. I usually wear mtb shorts etc I don't always wear Lycra and this does not fit into some crazy scheme idea that some people think cycling should be. These people always tend to be
Sky fans . Mention Bertie and straight away they bring up his bust just like Ned boultin has done many times. It's definitely prejudice. Sky has a team IMO are far worse than us postal . Armstrong at least attacked and rode aggressively and did not get to the last few k's of a climb with 4 or 5 team mates setting the tempo. The damage is done now and it's up to another team to put a equally strong team together. Trouble with that is we may end up like football. Sky have not been good for cycling . The huge money has given them a huge advantage and a lot power and weight within pro cycling. The UCI will bend over for them ,money talks.
Like I said I don't hate Froome I don't even know him but I suspect like all champions he's obsessive and won't take kindly to people who don't fit into the way he wants things done. Just like any team leader . Tantrums will be thrown people will be shouted at and maybe even thrown off the team.

Rant over cheers

 

[PremierAndrew]

You can't stereotype all fans for a certain rider or team like that.

Froome never attacks? What :lol: For a start Contador's the only GC rider that's attacked more times than Froome this Vuelta alone

 

[Forever The Best]

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You can't stereotype all fans for a certain rider or team like that.

Froome never attacks? What :lol: For a start Contador's the only GC rider that's attacked more times than Froome this Vuelta alone

If attacks from 1-2 km to go are real attacks then Purito must be the most aggressive rider ever.
His attack on Comella was nice though, but that was his only attack. (I don't call attacks with 1 km to go attacks, they are uphill sprints)

 

[SeriousSam]

The Double

Best Grand Tour rider since Armstrong.

 

[portugal11]

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The Double

Best Grand Tour rider since Armstrong.

Froome, for me you're already a legend

 

[Eclipse]

An iconic achievement. Definitely put himself firmly into the legend category now. Just needs to go add the Giro (which really should be a formality if he gets into it in good condition)

 

[miguelindurain111]

The Double!!! What a legend!

 

[El Pistolero]

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Froome is only "Froome" in the U.K. and U.S.A. In any other place he is considered a disgrace for cycling. I personally think team $ky is the disgrace for cycling. They can have all the money in the world, but they are the most boring team.

I bet he's losing plenty of sleep over any of the opinions expressed in this forum :lol:

His wife certainly is, even going as far to make an account on numerous cycling forums to argue about Froome.

I take comfort in that fact. :lol:

 

[El Pistolero]

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An iconic achievement. Definitely put himself firmly into the legend category now. Just needs to go add the Giro (which really should be a formality if he gets into it in good condition)

Contador will retire this year.

 

[deValtos]

2011 seems a long time ago now, Froome's come a long way since then. Great double!

 

[Ataraxus]

Congrats to Chris Froome on the Vuelta, the Double and the throne of the best GT rider of this millenium.

 

[Baldinger]

A great victory for him. Congrats!

 

[Matteo.]

I was waiting for his break ah ah ah.
rain, cold ... when opponents think of this is sad.
I am very happy, the strongest and deserved this.

the double ... what to say ... but was not it impossible ?, imppssible is nothing
He's in the legend too, complimenti .
Bravo chris

 

[DBotero]

Grande Froome Finally winning La Vuelta and also making the legendary double.
He's really come a long way from from that Pena Cabarga 2011 win to this.

 

[Climbing]

Chapeau Froome, historical achievement and well deserved, finally winning the Vuelta.
I hope he will try and add a Giro in his palmares one day.

 

[wwabbit]

4th time lucky, and very well deserved.

 

[bigcog]

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Froome is only "Froome" in the U.K. and U.S.A. In any other place he is considered a disgrace for cycling. I personally think team $ky is the disgrace for cycling. They can have all the money in the world, but they are the most boring team.

I bet he's losing plenty of sleep over any of the opinions expressed in this forum :lol:

I remember when Michelle made an account and started arguing with people in The Clinic.

I would imagine they have moved past that now.

 

[Jspear]

Painful to watch, but kudos to him. He did something no one else has done. A champion.

 

[movingtarget]

Froome gets his double. He must have been sick of podiums at the Vuelta. I thought Nibali might take back some time today but he didn't have the legs.

 

[bigcog]

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Froome is only "Froome" in the U.K. and U.S.A. In any other place he is considered a disgrace for cycling. I personally think team $ky is the disgrace for cycling. They can have all the money in the world, but they are the most boring team.

I bet he's losing plenty of sleep over any of the opinions expressed in this forum :lol:

His wife certainly is, even going as far to make an account on numerous cycling forums to argue about Froome.

I take comfort in that fact. :lol:

Whatever floats your boat

 

[bigcog]

Well done Froome on the double, bet it tastes sweet this vuelta victory.

 

[MatParker117]

Anquetil, Hinault, Froome that is not bad company. The man became a legend today.

 

[spalco]

Well deserved victory, and amazing achievement to get the double. I'm happy for him.