Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[hazaran]

You basically have to invert the graph for it to make sense. EBH the GT winner and Lofkvist :lol:

 

[King Boonen]

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You basically have to invert the graph for it to make sense. EBH the GT winner and Lofkvist :lol:

I think you might want to take a second look at that y-axis label...

 

[Valv.Piti]

Question is where those 'good days' were.... which races is he referring to? Only training??

 

[Oude Geuze]

So much logic itt...

Schistosomiasis was probably a lie, he had no potential, team sky took the worst donkey in the stable and let him race just for *** and giggles. They probably just signed him to the biggest most resourceful team in the pro peloton because he was a funny lad to hang around and for diversity as he was from Kenya. Sky do these kinds of things all the time, winning is secondary to building a fun and supportive team.

 

[Tonton]

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So much logic itt...

Schistosomiasis was probably a lie, he had no potential, team sky took the worst donkey in the stable and let him race just for *** and giggles. They probably just signed him to the biggest most resourceful team in the pro peloton because he was a funny lad to hang around and for diversity as he was from Kenya. Sky do these kinds of things all the time, winning is secondary to building a fun and supportive team.

...[mod hat on] the elephant has to move to a different room. Passions are high and the lines are blurry...not just to you, actually even to me. We have to use the utmost level of diplomacy and not cross the line, which is unclear, and it's sad. But we need to be very mindful about the rules. It's hard not to mention the elephant...I know. Let's be cool, pros and cons. No doping talk.

 

[bigcog]

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Question is where those 'good days' were.... which races is he referring to? Only training??

That's what Vaughter's said. He was going to sign him for 90K before he did well in the Vuelta 2011 and resigned with Sky. He said he always had a big engine (excuse the pun) but never could translate it to racing for one reason or another.

 

[GuyIncognito]

While I'm not defending Froome - I find his story preposterous - it would be entirely within character for Brailsford to have a very talented rider on the team and have no idea.

Back in 2014 a certain Sky DS was very angry in northwest Spain. A reporter got a few words from him. Apparently he'd been telling Brailsford all year that Bystrom had a lot of potential and Brailsford should really sign him up, but being ignored.....until Bystrom won the u23 Worlds and apparently just minutes later Brailsford was on the phone telling this same DS that "I've found a gem I want you to take a look at" :lol:

 

[Parker]

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Question is where those 'good days' were.... which races is he referring to? Only training??

That's what Vaughter's said. He was going to sign him for 90K before he did well in the Vuelta 2011 and resigned with Sky. He said he always had a big engine (excuse the pun) but never could translate it to racing for one reason or another.

An assessment I heard of him around the time he swapped to GB from someone who had work connections with British Cycling was "Amazing athlete, terrible bike rider".

 

[Parker]

While I'm not defending Froome - I find his story preposterous - it would be entirely within character for Brailsford to have a very talented rider on the team and have no idea.

Back in 2014 a certain Sky DS was very angry in northwest Spain. A reporter got a few words from him. Apparently he'd been telling Brailsford all year that Bystrom had a lot of potential and Brailsford should really sign him up, but being ignored.....until Bystrom won the u23 Worlds and apparently just minutes later Brailsford was on the phone telling this same DS that "I've found a gem I want you to take a look at" :lol:

It's worth remembering that the GB development programme rejected Adam Yates and almost rejected Cavendish.

(And elsewhere Quick Step turned down Sagan and I believe Rabobank selected two riders ahead of Dumoulin from their development team)

 

[bigcog]

While I'm not defending Froome - I find his story preposterous - it would be entirely within character for Brailsford to have a very talented rider on the team and have no idea.

Back in 2014 a certain Sky DS was very angry in northwest Spain. A reporter got a few words from him. Apparently he'd been telling Brailsford all year that Bystrom had a lot of potential and Brailsford should really sign him up, but being ignored.....until Bystrom won the u23 Worlds and apparently just minutes later Brailsford was on the phone telling this same DS that "I've found a gem I want you to take a look at" :lol:

It's worth remembering that the GB development programme rejected Adam Yates and almost rejected Cavendish.

(And elsewhere Quick Step turned down Sagan and I believe Rabobank selected two riders ahead of Dumoulin from their development team)

Don't tell the clinic ...

 

[Tonton]

[mod hat on] I don't know how to mod this TBH. No one is clearly crossing the line, not to say that the ax will not fall at some point. Please all be careful. We can't let the PRR forum turn into a YouTube, out of control forum and the inevitable trolling fest that comes with it.

[mod hat off] Having said that, as much as I understand the legal ramifications, UCI should have been much more diligent. If Froome was OK to ride the Giro, OK. The Tour? OK. If not, as I believe, then out.

We often complain about former riders running the sport with all the issues that it entails, when in reality it's lawyers and bean-counters who make the decisions.

 

[SHAD0W93]

It does stink that the cases take forever to be resolved. It is terrible for everyone if someone rides when the results could be lost.

If he does well at the Tour that will be remarkable considering 4 GTs in a row for the win as well as the emotional stress of the case.

 

[brownbobby]

While I'm not defending Froome - I find his story preposterous - it would be entirely within character for Brailsford to have a very talented rider on the team and have no idea.

Back in 2014 a certain Sky DS was very angry in northwest Spain. A reporter got a few words from him. Apparently he'd been telling Brailsford all year that Bystrom had a lot of potential and Brailsford should really sign him up, but being ignored.....until Bystrom won the u23 Worlds and apparently just minutes later Brailsford was on the phone telling this same DS that "I've found a gem I want you to take a look at" :lol:

It's worth remembering that the GB development programme rejected Adam Yates and almost rejected Cavendish.

(And elsewhere Quick Step turned down Sagan and I believe Rabobank selected two riders ahead of Dumoulin from their development team)

Don't tell the clinic ...

Why not...this thread has become indistinguishable from the Clinic one this week

 

[rlntlssly]

Looking through Froome's recent victories, I noticed something surprising: his last 12 victories have been stages or the overall at Grand Tours. He doesn't have a single non-GT victory since the 2016 Dauphine -- two years ago this week.

I guess this is an unsurprising consequence of aiming at GT doubles over the last two years, but it still feels remarkable. In 2013 he had nine victories before the Tour even started.

 

[Oude Geuze]

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So much logic itt...

Schistosomiasis was probably a lie, he had no potential, team sky took the worst donkey in the stable and let him race just for *** and giggles. They probably just signed him to the biggest most resourceful team in the pro peloton because he was a funny lad to hang around and for diversity as he was from Kenya. Sky do these kinds of things all the time, winning is secondary to building a fun and supportive team.

...[mod hat on] the elephant has to move to a different room. Passions are high and the lines are blurry...not just to you, actually even to me. We have to use the utmost level of diplomacy and not cross the line, which is unclear, and it's sad. But we need to be very mindful about the rules. It's hard not to mention the elephant...I know. Let's be cool, pros and cons. No doping talk.

What elephant? I was clearly satirizing the wild conspiracy thinking here. I don’t get your post at all.

 

[buchanan]

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So much logic itt...

Schistosomiasis was probably a lie, he had no potential, team sky took the worst donkey in the stable and let him race just for *** and giggles. They probably just signed him to the biggest most resourceful team in the pro peloton because he was a funny lad to hang around and for diversity as he was from Kenya. Sky do these kinds of things all the time, winning is secondary to building a fun and supportive team.

...[mod hat on] the elephant has to move to a different room. Passions are high and the lines are blurry...not just to you, actually even to me. We have to use the utmost level of diplomacy and not cross the line, which is unclear, and it's sad. But we need to be very mindful about the rules. It's hard not to mention the elephant...I know. Let's be cool, pros and cons. No doping talk.

What elephant? I was clearly satirizing the wild conspiracy thinking here. I don’t get your post at all.

Lol, I was also wondering what is Tonton on about. I can't see any allusion to doping in your post. Just looked like a bit of satire/sarcasm on your part.

 

[Merckx index]

Weird how this thread disappears from the first page so often.

Anyway, here's a very interesting and maybe provocative comparison between Merckx, Hinault and Froome. The rationale begins with the fact that these are the three riders who have won three GT in a row (though Froome's position on this list is of course tentative), but goes on from there to consider their results in other races, their style on a bike, and their personalities:

Style:
Merckx: Aggressive, bludgeoning, desperate and driven to win anything and everything with very few favours asked or given. Whilst not one of the great stylists, when in full flight you were witnessing a force of nature.

Hinault: Less desperate to win than the Belgian but in the Tour he was the undisputed ‘Patron’ riding for kilometre after kilometre on the front in unfeasibly large gears, daring anyone to attack him. Again, far from ‘poetry in motion’ but once seen in time trial action when it really mattered, never forgotten.

Froome: As part of the Sky TechnoTeam he’s a much more calculating animal than the other two but does produce dashes of panache, none more so than his downhill attack to win Stage Eight of the 2016 Tour into Bagneres-de-Luchon. For a team which is dedicated to fine tuning every aspect of the sport they’ve been unable to do anything about Froome’s elbows and knees which seem to have a mind all their own.

https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/tag/chris-froome/#.WyMaYxIzYfM

 

[rick james]

Froome fans unlike Bertie fans don’t need to post an update every time he goes for a pee, chips a tooth, cycles a bike, looks fat, post a picture of his pet!

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

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Froome fans unlike Bertie fans don’t need to post an update every time he goes for a pee, chips a tooth, cycles a bike, looks fat, post a picture of his pet!

And don't forget about Polartec-Kometa thread, the most amazing part of Professional Road Racing subforum..

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Froome fans unlike Bertie fans don’t need to post an update every time he goes for a pee, chips a tooth, cycles a bike, looks fat, post a picture of his pet!

And don't forget about Polartec-Kometa thread, the most amazing part of Professional Road Racing subforum..

Here's the thing, if you're not interested, ignore the thread. That goes for both of you.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Re: Re:

Froome fans unlike Bertie fans don’t need to post an update every time he goes for a pee, chips a tooth, cycles a bike, looks fat, post a picture of his pet!

And don't forget about Polartec-Kometa thread, the most amazing part of Professional Road Racing subforum..

Here's the thing, if you're not interested, ignore the thread. That goes for both of you.

Well, of course I follow your own thread as most entertaining at the whole forum, it gives me a lot of fun.
But you should acknowledge, I don't litter it with my posts.
And I hope you will not this one.

 

[Angliru]

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Froome fans unlike Bertie fans don’t need to post an update every time he goes for a pee, chips a tooth, cycles a bike, looks fat, post a picture of his pet!

Yup, you guys are definitely cut from a finer cloth. That would explain the string of suspensions/involuntary forum vacations from one in particular. Fine, upstanding, salt of the earth types.

 

[rick james]

Re: Re:

Froome fans unlike Bertie fans don’t need to post an update every time he goes for a pee, chips a tooth, cycles a bike, looks fat, post a picture of his pet!

And don't forget about Polartec-Kometa thread, the most amazing part of Professional Road Racing subforum..

Here's the thing, if you're not interested, ignore the thread. That goes for both of you.

oh look some one said Berties name, and right on cue....the thread is entered

 

[rick james]

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Froome fans unlike Bertie fans don’t need to post an update every time he goes for a pee, chips a tooth, cycles a bike, looks fat, post a picture of his pet!

Yup, you guys are definitely cut from a finer cloth. That would explain the string of suspensions/involuntary forum vacations from one in particular. Fine, upstanding, salt of the earth types.

straight to hell for me for being banned from a cycling forum

 

[Angliru]

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Froome fans unlike Bertie fans don’t need to post an update every time he goes for a pee, chips a tooth, cycles a bike, looks fat, post a picture of his pet!

Yup, you guys are definitely cut from a finer cloth. That would explain the string of suspensions/involuntary forum vacations from one in particular. Fine, upstanding, salt of the earth types.

straight to hell for me for being banned from a cycling forum

Wind-in-your-face, rain-and-sleet-on-all-your-rides, never-a-downhill-only-steep-grades-and-false-flats kind of hell!