Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[red_flanders]

Is not that much comparing him with a bully like armstrong? You have an unmeasured hate against him.

I think my hate is fairly measured. He's earned my disdain.

 

[Froome]

I think my hate is fairly measured. He's earned my disdain.

Okay, you have that right.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

I think my hate is fairly measured. He's earned my disdain.

He ticks all the boxes - rich, incredibly successful, British.

 

[Elos Anjos]

He ticks all the boxes - rich, incredibly successful, British.

@red_flanders point was not that, but that there are human features (or boxes, mind you) that are justifiable to despise, namely lying, lying, lying.

 

[red_flanders]

He ticks all the boxes - rich, incredibly successful, British.

Pretty weird if those are triggers for ya, but you do you.

My boxes are liar, incredibly bad liar, disdain for the intelligence of fans. Oh. And worst “style” on a bike since Escartin. Can’t forget that.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Pretty weird if those are triggers for ya, but you do you.

My boxes are liar, incredibly bad liar, disdain for the intelligence of fans.

Let's hear it...

 

[red_flanders]

Let's hear it...

The case has been made endlessly on this forum. If you’re not aware are of a different view, or think I’m full of it? Grand.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

The case has been made endlessly on this forum. If you’re not aware are of a different view, or think I’m full of it? Grand.

It's elite sport, there's no clean hands. Same as the elite in any endeavour. Just interested as to why you've singled him out.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

@red_flanders point was not that, but that there are human features (or boxes, mind you) that are justifiable to despise, namely lying, lying, lying.

And animal cruelty.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

And animal cruelty.

As a kid, right?

 

[tobydawq]

And animal cruelty.

Yeah, Geraint Thomas (I know you will probably dismiss the story now that I wrote his name) had him on his podcast where they said he once found a homeless cat on a ride which seemed to be cold (or hungry or something like that). Then Froome took it in under his shirt and rode home with it and kept it.

So no.

 

[samhocking]

My reply was to the statement that “surely it’s not about the money”. It’s 100% about the money.

And my claim that Froome always has been a liar and a fraud is one I’ll stand by as long as here’s a discussion. He’s been caught in too many lies to count. No revisionism whatsoever.

His financial contract is to ride for 5 years from 2020, so like every single rider in the peloton and you and I, generally going to ride out their contract in order to be paid the full amount. He seems to really love racing and the results can't negate the contract so it is what it is, not sure it's that complicated, just people make everything about Froome so much more complicated than it needs to be to the point they're obsessive about every word he says and even faked ending his own career into a non-descript wall in France?

 

[red_flanders]

It's elite sport, there's no clean hands. Same as the elite in any endeavour. Just interested as to why you've singled him out.

Seems like I've made that clear several times. What are you missing?

His financial contract is to ride for 5 years from 2020, so like every single rider in the peloton and you and I, generally going to ride out their contract in order to be paid the full amount. He seems to really love racing and the results can't negate the contract so it is what it is, not sure it's that complicated, just people make everything about Froome so much more complicated than it needs to be to the point they're obsessive about every word he says and even faked ending his own career into a non-descript wall in France?

Again, someone suggested it wasn't about the money. I responded that I think it's obviously about the money. Does that mean I think he shouldn't ride out his contract? No. Do I think he's giving it his all? Not for a moment. Not complicated, other than you making an assumption about my meaning. That gets complicated.

I know it's fun to ascribe all kinds of intentions and motivations to people you don't know because it makes the offending statements feel better, but maybe people could try reading and reacting to what's actually said, rather than arguing points no one is making.

That'd be nice.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Yeah, Geraint Thomas (I know you will probably dismiss the story now that I wrote his name) had him on his podcast where they said he once found a homeless cat on a ride which seemed to be cold (or hungry or something like that). Then Froome took it in under his shirt and rode home with it and kept it.

So no.

That's cool, and yes he was a kid at the time of the story I referenced, but he did recount it with pride in his book. It's nice to see that there is a flip side to the story, but it doesn't mean the other part didn't happen.

 

[Alien Performance]

If he won the Alpe d'Huez in the 2022 Tour, do you think he would have retired by now? Seems like he's looking for a fairytale ending that's never going to come

 

[saunaking]

Is not that much comparing him with a bully like armstrong? You have an unmeasured hate against him.

Yeah, and i am thinking all day "froome" because i signed on cyclingnews forum with the username "froome"! You think all day in "red flanders"!

Armstrong was 10x the rider Froome ever was but 3x the ***

 

[saunaking]

It's elite sport, there's no clean hands. Same as the elite in any endeavour. Just interested as to why you've singled him out.

Froome is the ONLY one with a career progression like he had.
By age 25 he had won nothing. He had like zero results.

then magic


Look at the palmares of any of the greats by age 25 and its clear they are a talent.

 

[saunaking]

Yeah, Geraint Thomas (I know you will probably dismiss the story now that I wrote his name) had him on his podcast where they said he once found a homeless cat on a ride which seemed to be cold (or hungry or something like that). Then Froome took it in under his shirt and rode home with it and kept it.

So no.

WTF so now he stole a cat from someone?
What is a homeless cat? Did it have an upside down hat filled with coins and a sign next to it?

Guy steals someone's pet from the side of the road and you are praising him lol

 

[tobydawq]

WTF so now he stole a cat from someone?
What is a homeless cat? Did it have an upside down hat filled with coins and a sign next to it?

Guy steals someone's pet from the side of the road and you are praising him lol

Lol.

Sure he did. I knew somebody would try to pull this crap.

No he didn't *** steal someone else's cat.

 

[Netserk]

He just provided a meal for his pet snake. Totally different.

 

[Savant12]

Into the Top 30. Froome is just slow-timing his peak for the Tour.

 

[Gigs_98]

WTF so now he stole a cat from someone?
What is a homeless cat? Did it have an upside down hat filled with coins and a sign next to it?

Guy steals someone's pet from the side of the road and you are praising him lol

Lmao

 

[SHAD0W93]

He just provided a meal for his pet snake. Totally different.

Beat me to it.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Seems like I've made that clear several times. What are you missing?


Again, someone suggested it wasn't about the money. I responded that I think it's obviously about the money. Does that mean I think he shouldn't ride out his contract? No. Do I think he's giving it his all? Not for a moment. Not complicated, other than you making an assumption about my meaning. That gets complicated.

I know it's fun to ascribe all kinds of intentions and motivations to people you don't know because it makes the offending statements feel better, but maybe people could try reading and reacting to what's actually said, rather than arguing points no one is making.

That'd be nice.

Honest question from someone who has perused the thread over the years but doesn’t want to commit to a marathon session: Is there a summary of Froome’s transgressions somewhere?

 

[red_flanders]

Honest question from someone who has perused the thread over the years but doesn’t want to commit to a marathon session: Is there a summary of Froome’s transgressions somewhere?

Not that I’m aware of.