Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[Pricey_sky]

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And now I want the people saying Froome is not so good in the third week.

He has been always good in the third week, but in the hardest mountains stages, in the third week, the one with less flat, he can fade respect the best climbers of the world. but to say froome fade in Alp D Huez last year is not true..it is just the consecuence he is not a pure climber, but just Quintana was better.

Well he hasn't got ill so far in the 3rd week which helps, not yet anyway.

As I've mentioned before he's had a more relaxed, slower build up in terms of training. It's obviously paid off.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Achieved his 3rd Tour, it's time to add something else to his palmares ( as the others greatest GT specialist).
He needs to win the Giro

Likely he will win this Tour, but now is when start the bad part of the Tour for him...lot of things can happens.

I remerber those boring Tour 2011, when at the end Andy put lot of time in just one stage, and he was critized about dont attack and he lost time the previous days.

Now we dont have a long and hard stage like that...we just have 2 short stages and a very good team as SKY, but of course in some way the Tour start now and it wont be so easy as it looked o far.

 

[portugal11]

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And now I want the people saying Froome is not so good in the third week.

He has been always good in the third week, but in the hardest mountains stages, in the third week, the one with less flat, he can fade respect the best climbers of the world. but to say froome fade in Alp D Huez last year is not true..it is just the consecuence he is not a pure climber, but just Quintana was better.

Who is better climber than him?

 

[movingtarget]

Re: Re:

Achieved his 3rd Tour, it's time to add something else to his palmares ( as the others greatest GT specialist).
He needs to win the Giro

Likely he will win this Tour, but now is when start the bad part of the Tour for him...lot of things can happens.

I remerber those boring Tour 2011, when at the end Andy put lot of time in just one stage, and he was critized about dont attack and he lost time the previous days.

Now we dont have a long and hard stage like that...we just have 2 short stages and a very good team as SKY, but of course in some way the Tour start now and it wont be so easy as it looked o far.

Only bad luck or illness beats Froome now. Only the podium battle maintains interest.

 

[Oliwright]

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Only one thing left.
He has order a fast ride tomorrow to gift Ritchie a stage win.

I wouldn't be surprised if BMC send TVG in break and then pull it back. Sky wouldn't be agaisn't gifting him a stage either.

 

[Oliwright]

To the people saying Froome should aim for the Giro/ 1 day races.

Froome has been more open about admitting that he loves the racing when it's super hot and he does well in that weather as well as admitting that he struggles more than others when it's cold.

Therefore i think it's unlikely he will go to the Giro. Just because he wouldn't be sure how he would react. Maybe once he gets beaten in the tour he will.

But I expect Landa with Thomas or Poels to share leadership at the next Giro.

 

[Angliru]

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hey, No AC ******!it in here

You missed your opportunity to be a moderator. All you can do now is cry about it and report it.

 

[SeriousSam]

Of course he shouldn't do the Giro. The strongest GT rider in the world doesn't do the Giro when he could do the Tour instead. Winning the Tour is always a much greater achievement than winning either of the other GTs.

The one exception to this is a double attempt, but he should attempt the Tour and Vuelta double first

 

[laurensde+]

Time for some Monuments.

 

[Angliru]

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And now I want the people saying Froome is not so good in the third week.

He has been always good in the third week, but in the hardest mountains stages, in the third week, the one with less flat, he can fade respect the best climbers of the world. but to say froome fade in Alp D Huez last year is not true..it is just the consecuence he is not a pure climber, but just Quintana was better.

He himself has said that he's faded in the 3rd weeks of grand tours. It's not just people on this forum.

 

[loge1884]

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Of course he shouldn't do the Giro. The strongest GT rider in the world doesn't do the Giro when he could do the Tour instead. Winning the Tour is always a much greater achievement than winning either of the other GTs.

The one exception to this is a double attempt, but he should attempt the Tour and Vuelta double first

perhaps for an Italian rider a Giro win might equal a TdF win .... apart from local sentiments TdF is clearly No. 1, Giro uncontested No. 2 and Vuelta No. 3 ....

 

[dacooley]

Re: Re:

And now I want the people saying Froome is not so good in the third week.

He has been always good in the third week, but in the hardest mountains stages, in the third week, the one with less flat, he can fade respect the best climbers of the world. but to say froome fade in Alp D Huez last year is not true..it is just the consecuence he is not a pure climber, but just Quintana was better.

He himself has said that he's faded in the 3rd weeks of grand tours. It's not just people on this forum.

Yes, but people were repeating it like a mantra, some were ingeminating he would be destroyed by Quintana and Contador in week 3 for months. Must be sad news for them.

 

[PremierAndrew]

At this point, a Giro would add more to Froome's palmares than a 4th Tour, especially coupled with the increased chance at the Vuelta in that year.

The Giro is quite different to the Tour, so winning that would show that he can handle harder climbs, descents and cooler weather with higher chances of precipitation

 

[Pricey_sky]

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At this point, a Giro would add more to Froome's palmares than a 4th Tour, especially coupled with the increased chance at the Vuelta in that year.

The Giro is quite different to the Tour, so winning that would show that he can handle harder climbs, descents and cooler weather with higher chances of precipitation

I agree, I'd like it if Froome tried the Giro and as you've said it will really add to his palmares. Whilst the cold weather isn't ideal he's shown good enough results in miserable conditions at Romandie over the years to suggest he would be fine, although obviously he prefers the hot weather.

Sky would give him the usual strong team to support him too. Whilst giving other guys a free reign at the Tour if he chose the Giro-Vuelta option.

 

[Matteo.]

The question is not to race the Giror y as a favor to me since I'm Italian or others . The question is all the big GT specialists have won all three Grand Tours ( or at least they tried ) . therefore, the question is: intend to be placed in the Olympus of the big in our sport or be associated with an Armstrong who raced only ever the Tour? I understand his problems ( ? ) with bad weather , but one with his talent can not be reduced to just do a only a GT After 3 Tour his career needs the next step to join legends

 

[roundabout]

He has 2 2nd places and a 4th in the Vuelta so that's 2 2nd places more than Armstrong in the Vuelta.

 

[DBotero]

Great win today and closer to add the 3rd TDF in his palmares Now only if he can do something about La Vuelta in the future.

 

[DBotero]

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Of course he shouldn't do the Giro. The strongest GT rider in the world doesn't do the Giro when he could do the Tour instead. Winning the Tour is always a much greater achievement than winning either of the other GTs.

The one exception to this is a double attempt, but he should attempt the Tour and Vuelta double first

perhaps for an Italian rider a Giro win might equal a TdF win .... apart from local sentiments TdF is clearly No. 1, Giro uncontested No. 2 and Vuelta No. 3 ....

Not really.Giro is not more important than Vuelta.Judging by the riders usually attending these races even it looks like they are not even tied.

 

[damian13ster]

Giro is much more prestigious than Vuelta imho. Lots of riders attend Vuelta because of schedule/failures earlier in the season. Noone actually targets it

 

[filipepc]

Congratulations to Froome. Fantastic performance, he will be a good winner of this tour. Pity that we don´t see a good spectacle, but it´s not his fault.

 

[PlanZ]

Congratulations to Froome. Fantastic performance, he will be a good winner of this tour. Pity that we don´t see a good spectacle, but it´s not his fault.

Agreed. Coming into the tour I'd hoped the next two mountain stages would see Froome, Nibali, Quintana and Contador all riding for the yellow jersey, but it wasn't to be. And despite having the best team, Froome has really impressed me over the past 3 weeks - he's matured noticeably.
I've not been on here long, but I'm surprised by the opprobrium he seems to incur for just doing his job - and doing it brilliantly.

 

[loge1884]

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Giro is much more prestigious than Vuelta imho. Lots of riders attend Vuelta because of schedule/failures earlier in the season. Noone actually targets it

except for the local pros of course .....

 

[warmfuzzies]

Vuelta has, in the past 12 years anyway, been a prize for either a Tour superdomestique or for someone coming off a disappointing Tour de France. Over the same period, Giro has been a half step more pretigious than Vuelta, with a number of top riders targeting it as their primary annual objective. Recently, nobody at the top of cycling has targeted the Vuelta as their primary season objective. It's like the girl you see at the bar near closing time.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Congratulations to Froome. Fantastic performance, he will be a good winner of this tour. Pity that we don´t see a good spectacle, but it´s not his fault.

Agreed. Coming into the tour I'd hoped the next two mountain stages would see Froome, Nibali, Quintana and Contador all riding for the yellow jersey, but it wasn't to be. And despite having the best team, Froome has really impressed me over the past 3 weeks - he's matured noticeably.
I've not been on here long, but I'm surprised by the opprobrium he seems to incur for just doing his job - and doing it brilliantly.

I think a lot of the Froome bashing is mostly due to the team he is riding for. If he was doing what he's doing while riding for a smaller and les dominant team he would probably be almost universally liked, or at least tolerated

 

[Jelantik]

Congratulations to Froome. Fantastic performance, he will be a good winner of this tour. Pity that we don´t see a good spectacle, but it´s not his fault.

Agreed. Coming into the tour I'd hoped the next two mountain stages would see Froome, Nibali, Quintana and Contador all riding for the yellow jersey, but it wasn't to be. And despite having the best team, Froome has really impressed me over the past 3 weeks - he's matured noticeably.
I've not been on here long, but I'm surprised by the opprobrium he seems to incur for just doing his job - and doing it brilliantly.

I think a lot of the Froome bashing is mostly due to the team he is riding for. If he was doing what he's doing while riding for a smaller and les dominant team he would probably be almost universally liked, or at least tolerated

I wonder why won't Froome ride with other team? I guess, he knows, Sky has a better team support that others. If Bora Argon can pay Sagan >4mil, that means other team probably can pay Froome that much too. I think Froome knows, Sky is better team for GT than the rest. I bet if Froome rides for other team, people probably will start to like him..