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That actually looked potentially quite painful. He slided good few meters on his side and leg.
70kmph said:
That actually looked potentially quite painful. He slided good few meters on his side and leg.
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The wound seen in the pics is on the outside of his right knee, so it should be related to the second crash, that happened on a bend to the right.
70kmph said:
The wound seen in the pics is on the outside of his right knee, so it should be related to the second crash, that happened on a bend to the right.
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Him sliding means more grazes and bleeding, but if he hadn't slid, there's fair chance he would have broken his collarbone
bambino said:
Him sliding means more grazes and bleeding, but if he hadn't slid, there's fair chance he would have broken his collarbone
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You can break your collarbone regardless. It only depends on the way you first hit the ground, nothing else.
PremierAndrew said:
You can break your collarbone regardless. It only depends on the way you first hit the ground, nothing else.
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Well yes, in any crash you can break your collarbone, or your pinky. How insightful. Please now relate this to reality.
huge said:
Well yes, in any crash you can break your collarbone, or your pinky. How insightful. Please now relate this to reality.
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PremierAndrew said, quote, " if he hadn't slid, there's fair chance he would have broken his collarbone"
I 'm saying that there is no relation between the chance to break a collarbone and sliding after the crash, so the above statement is false.
Btw, due to his speed a rider that falls will always slide for some distance.
hazaran said:
PremierAndrew said, quote, " if he hadn't slid, there's fair chance he would have broken his collarbone"
I 'm saying that there is no relation between the chance to break a collarbone and sliding after the crash, so the above statement is false.
Btw, due to his speed a rider that falls will always slide for some distance.
Well he finished right at the front today, so for now I'm assuming it's not such a big deal.
Harder to sleep with wounds and taking pain killer like the Team Tramadol has nasty side effects, but something worked for the moment
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The longer you slide, the greater the amount of time over which the kinetic energy is dissipated. Force = Rate of change in momentum -> larger time to stop (sliding for longer) -> less force on body -> less chance of fractures. Simple physics
Yes, you always slide some distance, but the length/distance of the time depends on multiple factors, eg angle of fall, road surface, presence of precipitation etc
huge said:
The longer you slide, the greater the amount of time over which the kinetic energy is dissipated. Force = Rate of change in momentum -> larger time to stop (sliding for longer) -> less force on body -> less chance of fractures. Simple physics
Yes, you always slide some distance, but the length/distance of the time depends on multiple factors, eg angle of fall, road surface, presence of precipitation etc
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They all say "I will attack" but no one wants to be all-in. Except Contador, and probably for Katusha, my guess is Zakarin. He already got his top-5 at the Giro, now he wants more. I think that Froome will be OK tomorrow, but I sense big changes in the top-10. Bertie could climb a few spots if he doesn't blow himself up.
This.portugal11 said:
They all say "I will attack" but no one wants to be all-in. Except Contador, and probably for Katusha, my guess is Zakarin. He already got his top-5 at the Giro, now he wants more. I think that Froome will be OK tomorrow, but I sense big changes in the top-10. Bertie could climb a few spots if he doesn't blow himself up.
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. And what may be a bigger impact is how it affects sleep, recuperation. If you have to find a new position in bed...yikes. And then you wake up in your normal position and it hurts...and you spend twenty minutes getting in a new position...we all know that. Not fun.
i don't know about the physics side of it, nut personal memories come back...it hurtsPremierAndrew said:huge said:
The longer you slide, the greater the amount of time over which the kinetic energy is dissipated. Force = Rate of change in momentum -> larger time to stop (sliding for longer) -> less force on body -> less chance of fractures. Simple physics
Yes, you always slide some distance, but the length/distance of the time depends on multiple factors, eg angle of fall, road surface, presence of precipitation etc
. And what may be a bigger impact is how it affects sleep, recuperation. If you have to find a new position in bed...yikes. And then you wake up in your normal position and it hurts...and you spend twenty minutes getting in a new position...we all know that. Not fun.
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Trust me, you slide just as well with fractured bones as intact ones.
PremierAndrew said:huge said:
The longer you slide, the greater the amount of time over which the kinetic energy is dissipated. Force = Rate of change in momentum -> larger time to stop (sliding for longer) -> less force on body -> less chance of fractures. Simple physics
Yes, you always slide some distance, but the length/distance of the time depends on multiple factors, eg angle of fall, road surface, presence of precipitation etc
Trust me, you slide just as well with fractured bones as intact ones.
Yikes. When you think about it, NFL players and cycling pros are so under-paid...they put their body on the line every single day.
I don't want Dawg to lose due to injury. I want him beat fair and square. It won't happen. We are in the timr ehrn trams and riders will protect placings and what comes with it. Would the 3-8 chase Bertie when he attacks? Hell yes!
Froome is where he needs to be, has the best team. He's OK.
I don't want Dawg to lose due to injury. I want him beat fair and square. It won't happen. We are in the timr ehrn trams and riders will protect placings and what comes with it. Would the 3-8 chase Bertie when he attacks? Hell yes!
Froome is where he needs to be, has the best team. He's OK.
I'm worried about those pictures. Even if that injury isn't that painful it just saps strength. A tough third week surely gets even tougher for Froome.
Well, tick off another stage....the last real chance the rivals have of dethroning Froomie comes tomorrow I suppose. He's still 55s ahead and riding smart as are his teammates. I am really impressed with each of them. Today, Poels was incredible bridging the gap and coming back to Froomie. Go Sky!
Ez no problem guys. He has the team to ride the sufficient watts. Al he has to do is calculate and close the gap near the end. Or go himself and destroy em all.
Tomorrow same story. And then blow everyone away in the ITT
Tomorrow same story. And then blow everyone away in the ITT
I think the crashes affected him a bit and he lost a few watts, Nibali was stronger for sure. However it could've been way worse. Good day for the froomester.
Everyone is pretty sure that Froome will destroy everyone during Mon ITT... I'm not that sure. Quite the opposite actually... I think the margin will be way less than expected.
if these are the values of the field, he just have to survive tomorrow. as I said, the wounds are superficial but it does not mean that you are 100%. I'm not sure he has given everything today, seeing how he and the Team have rode . they may save energy for sierra nevada
Very happy with that, the injuries don't seem to be affecting him too much and he got back to the Nibali/Contador group nicely. Another day ticked off!
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I think Froome will take 45-60s on Nibali, obviously a lot more to some of the weaker TT'ers. It depends if he puts in a TT like he did at the Vuelta last year, if anything I'd argue he is much stronger this year than last year.
huge said:
I think Froome will take 45-60s on Nibali, obviously a lot more to some of the weaker TT'ers. It depends if he puts in a TT like he did at the Vuelta last year, if anything I'd argue he is much stronger this year than last year.
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I'm pretty sure he was giving everything when trying to keep the gap from VN and AC to a minimum and then getting back to them.
VN's move could have been potentially disastrous for him. There's nothing to keep back in a situation like that.
Matteo. said:
I'm pretty sure he was giving everything when trying to keep the gap from VN and AC to a minimum and then getting back to them.
VN's move could have been potentially disastrous for him. There's nothing to keep back in a situation like that.
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